I realize this mod aims for complete historical accuracy and to eliminate fanciful elements and to a point I am with that, battlefield nija did exist but perhaps only as a few Hattori units, under Tokugawa of course and not as a seperate faction. Hero units should exist but they shouldnt be as strong as they are now, agents are to important to the game strategy and such forces did shape the Sengoku period thought they were hardly the work of a single agent. So here it is.
Perhaps I can persuade you, it really be a shame to only include the generals and leave out the possibility of unique agent and hero units. Historical is all good and all but what good is it if the mod isnt as fun as it can be?
You refer to the heroes, in a strict historical mod, they are antithesis, but in reality and fun, they are integral to the Sengoku period. To say they didnt play an important part is not so, they are more known for what they did then most generals of the period, and most important people influence the way things happen in a subtle way, it goes unrecorded in war history but thier fame lives on, so why focus only on war and its generals. Id rather have all the important character of the era featured. Having a hero sword unit, General's trait, or Agent to represent Munenori or Miyamoto is a good thing, famous ninja, monks, and kensei are part of period's history.
a few examples from the first post before I organized heroes, agents and generals
Munenori, was one of Tokugawa's most important advisors (trait), and later secret police (metsuke)
Shoud the Koga ninja clan, just be a generic ninja agent or should you include thier greatest Fuma Kotaro, it seems more accurate to me to include these famous ninja, by including Fuma as a agent.
Miyamoto, is the greatest Kensei, his disciples would be ideal for a Hero unit, his fame alone i could see attracting a following of elite swordsmen and he fought in several battles. When he killed Kojiro it was thought to be politcally motivated and he petitioned to serve Tokugawa in place of Munenori.
Takuan Soho, was a man of extreme influence,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takuan_S%C5%8Dh%C5%8D
this is what a monk agent represents.
I ask that you be mindful that the agent and heroes dont represent one individual but rather the leaders of such forces that shape diplomacy and influence war. As such they are important to a historical mod. for the sake of completeness. The most extreme example I can see is Musashi, who can be thought of only as a wandering duelist but wait..
Having a swordsmen of Miyamoto's fame would be a huge asset in war, he would attract skilled swordsmen under a Daimyo's banner, who would be trained by a true master. In game terms this is represented as a (Hero Sword Unit.)
This kind of thing is the essence of the game. To shape Japan in a way thats fun and within the possible, otherwise we all would be playing, Total War: The Tokugawa clan
Playabilty and fun is the most important part of a good mod, its got to be fun. Players who know the history of the Sengoku period will appreciate and want all of its personalities to be a part of the game experience!
Real Sengoku generals, heroes and agents
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