Post-Battle CTD (repeatable)

**Zeb77** · March 01, 2011, 09:45 AM

Repeatable problem - would blame settings but it crashes for me even if I turn them to minimum. Post-victorius battle CTD. To replicate, attack the leader outside the town with the sole Belgae army in the field to cause a snow battle in the woods. Win comprehensively and then I get the crash after clicking continue from battle result screen.

Win 7 doesn't provide much in the way of error messages I'm afraid so I didn't see the point of doing a screenshot of the 'Rome Total War - Alex.exe has stopped working, windows will now attempt to look for a solution' standard error box Win 7 always puts up.

- What OS do you use?

Win 7, 64-bit, SP1

- What version of RTW do you use?

Gold edition copied into Alexander folder (all patched to recommended patches - Alex is 1.9). RSII and 2.1a patch.

- Are you using steam or not?

No.

- Install path

C:\Rome Total War - Gold Edition

- Which launcher option have you used (exe, faction etc)

Alexander exe, Belgae faction, everything else default

If you are reporting a game CTD please provide the additional details

- system specifications, CPU, graphics card

AMD 1055T
Radeon 5770 (11.2 drivers)
4gb RAM

(not overclocked)

- graphic options selected (way too many options)

Everything on highest settings bar vegetation and unit detail. AA is disabled in game, enabled on video card as per instructions elsewhere.

- ideally a compressed save game immediately prior to the CTD so we can attempt to debug

Have one but unsure where to send to?

**Durepanya** · March 01, 2011, 11:10 AM

Hmm, try waiting 30 seconds until clicking continue.

**Brusilov** · March 01, 2011, 02:12 PM

Compress the save game file and then attach it using the 'attach files' feature in the 'advanced' view.

**Zeb77** · March 01, 2011, 02:46 PM

Attached.

**chris10** · March 01, 2011, 05:27 PM

From your description...
one question...Is there are garrison involved sallying from the town and an enemy army from outside ?

**Zeb77** · March 02, 2011, 02:05 AM

Yes, that's exactly the situation Chris.

**chris10** · March 02, 2011, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Zeb77

Yes, that's exactly the situation Chris.

yeah..ok you can stop bothering about this. It has nothing to do with RSII
because its a Rome Total War bug. The "Siege-Enemy Reinforcements-Sally-End Battle CTD"
its always CTD when you click to continue at the end...for some unknown reason these battles are unplayable and Creative Assembly never fixed this bug (probably they could never really locate the problem)...you have to autoresolve this kind of battles or avoid them altogether...
unfixable problem

**Zeb77** · March 02, 2011, 11:35 AM

Ok, thanks Chris10.

Having a nightmare with post-battle or mid-battle CTDs around towns and thought I'd finally nailed it to one I could replicate. Didn't play RTW vanilla enough to notice them to the same degree.

Will avoid the situation in future and hope for the best.

**chris10** · March 02, 2011, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Zeb77

Ok, thanks Chris10.

Having a nightmare with post-battle or mid-battle CTDs around towns and thought I'd finally nailed it to one I could replicate. Didn't play RTW vanilla enough to notice them to the same degree.

Will avoid the situation in future and hope for the best.

only the end battle ctds are related to this bug and only when involving a sallying army getting reinforced by an army from outside...
all mid battle ctds are related to other stuff (lack of memory, graphics issues etc)
go to advanced video options and check unit shaders on and high unit details off
all vegetation to middle or low....its a memory hog

**Zeb77** · March 02, 2011, 12:36 PM

Will doublecheck options.

Thanks for the advice Chris10.

-- double posts merged (Brusilov) - please use the EDIT button

The "Siege-Enemy Reinforcements-Sally-End Battle CTD" seems to be present even if there are no reinforcements

Allowed the enemy stack to build and then attack my army, beat it, then took the town. Another enemy stack appears and sieges town but if I try to sally forth to clear them, then I crash at the end of the battle. Think the town must be cursed.

Tried playing with the settings, tried working around it but meh, no joy. Remember the old engine being glitchy as anything at times, but had forgotten just how much so.

Think I'll put R:TW aside again. Appreciate your attempts to help guys and from what I've seen of the mod it looks superb. Shame the base engine isn't more robust and stable (amongst a whole host of other things

).

Peace and good luck with your modding endeavours.

**chris10** · March 03, 2011, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Zeb77

The "Siege-Enemy Reinforcements-Sally-End Battle CTD" seems to be present even if there are no reinforcements

Allowed the enemy stack to build and then attack my army, beat it, then took the town. Another enemy stack appears and sieges town but if I try to sally forth to clear them, then I crash at the end of the battle. Think the town must be cursed.
Tried playing with the settings, tried working around it but meh, no joy. Remember the old engine being glitchy as anything at times, but had forgotten just how much so.
Think I'll put R:TW aside again. Appreciate your attempts to help guys and from what I've seen of the mod it looks superb. Shame the base engine isn't more robust and stable (amongst a whole host of other things

).
Peace and good luck with your modding endeavours.

strange ...I dont have CTDs at all...Over 100 hours without a single battle/campaign ctd (except for 2 for known engine problems)...and even more strange is that I use a brand new win7 system and run RTW even without XP compatibility mode... RTW is not unstable but it can go very bad under certain hardware/software combinations...
if you have a ATI card for example some of the newer drivers causing battle CTDs...

**Zeb77** · March 03, 2011, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by chris10

strange ...I dont have CTDs at all...Over 100 hours without a single battle/campaign ctd (except for 2 for known engine problems)...and even more strange is that I use a brand new win7 system and run RTW even without XP compatibility mode... RTW is not unstable but it can go very bad under certain hardware/software combinations...
if you have a ATI card for example some of the newer drivers causing battle CTDs...

Funny story from some years ago was that I bug reported issues R:TW had with a particular Radeon card to both ATI and CA as well as the publisher. ATI and CA blamed each other and the publisher said that the graphics card should be returned under warranty as it was obviously faulty