Which clan will you play first AND why?

[Ujio]

I'm actually becoming a bit doubtful. Would becoming Christian and getting guns (or in anyway prioritizing getting guns) make playing Chosokabe unnecessary, seeing how their bonuses are 66% about archers?

1.Matchlocks are late in the games, so archers are useful for a long period of time.
2.Archers (samurai) have better morale and can reload faster, so skilfully used they will still be deadly.

[Death_Sheep]

1.Matchlocks are late in the games, so archers are useful for a long period of time.
2.Archers (samurai) have better morale and can reload faster, so skilfully used they will still be deadly.

Yep. Though if you want to risk early buddhist/ Christian rebellions, you can get them early, as well as later access to Foreign galleons...

Though in the long run it may be moot... Interesting tactical dilemma.

[Ujio]

Really sucks (in a good way)
I'm still stuck on clans, and now gunpowder???
what's next?

[EmperorBatman999]

Probably Chokesabe or whatever they're called, but the Date and Shimazu look good too. Maybe even try the Hattori after, depending on their position.

I like the island postions of the Chokeosabe and Shimazu. Gives me time and space to build up. But the Date look fairly big and I like their position being up and alone for awhile. And their no-Dachi guys look awesome.

[Thoragoros]

Tokugawa because of all the time I spent on Kessen

[Maiden_Ante]

1.Matchlocks are late in the games, so archers are useful for a long period of time.
2.Archers (samurai) have better morale and can reload faster, so skilfully used they will still be deadly.

Yeah I guess you're right. Well then, Chosokabe it is.

Motivation:

• I enjoyed using a lot of archery when developing tactics in M2TW (or should that be "TW:M2" now? lol)
• Good starting position for a first campaign (whilst VH/VH ensures it's not too easy)
• Neat clan symbol and background history

[Ujio]

Yeah I guess you're right. Well then, Chosokabe it is.

Motivation:

• I enjoyed using a lot of archery when developing tactics in M2TW (or should that be "TW:M2" now? lol)
• Good starting position for a first campaign (whilst VH/VH ensures it's not too easy)
• Neat clan symbol and background history

Don't judge a clan on their visual aspects,I find the Shimazu mon and colours absolutely dreadful.
Yet they represent everything I seek in a clan,superior swordsmen,loyal retainers/generals and there backs are against the wall.

[Thoragoros]

1.Matchlocks are late in the games, so archers are useful for a long period of time.
2.Archers (samurai) have better morale and can reload faster, so skilfully used they will still be deadly.

I hope matchlocks don't come too late, since aside from removing the option of choosing to be gunpowder based army aside from archers most of the game, it wouldn't accurate since matchlocks were used extensively throughout the war.

I mean, in MTW2, I rarely saw arquebusiers since they didn't show up until so late in the game.

[Kazuhiro]

But the Date look fairly big and I like their position being up and alone for awhile. And their no-Dachi guys look awesome.

Date ftw The scourge of the north!

I dont understand what the point of the bonuses for Mori is? Better ships is nice but they are not even isolated on the sea.

[Ujio]

I hope matchlocks don't come too late, since aside from removing the option of choosing to be gunpowder based army aside from archers most of the game, it wouldn't accurate since matchlocks were used extensively throughout the war.

I mean, in MTW2, I rarely saw arquebusiers since they didn't show up until so late in the game.

I think it differs from clan, I mean surely clans based more to the west will have easier accces?
Or atleast from an historical perspective.

Date ftw The scourge of the north!

I dont understand what the point of the bonuses for Mori is? Better ships is nice but they are not even isolated on the sea.

Do they need to be?
All you need is a port, and some motivation.

[Maiden_Ante]

Don't judge a clan on their visual aspects,I find the Shimazu mon and colours absolutely dreadful.
Yet they represent everything I seek in a clan,superior swordsmen,loyal retainers/generals and there backs are against the wall.

Yeah, I like the colors of Mori more tbh, having superior naval units is also neat. But I am more for good archery and therefore Chosokabe seems appealing. The rest is just extra candy.

[Basileos Leandros I]

Takeda. My favourite clan of all times, so I'm starting with them.

[Lugotorix]

Don't judge a clan on their visual aspects,I find the Shimazu mon and colours absolutely dreadful.
Yet they represent everything I seek in a clan,superior swordsmen,loyal retainers/generals and there backs are against the wall.

Well it's good I find the Uesugi mon super awesome. Oh wait....


I guess they thought people would get confused with the Date mon since they're in such close proximity.

[stradar1]

This is why/Plus green is my fav colour hehe GREEN FTW!
Shimazu

Description

The Shimazu are a proud clan, with a long history worthy of their pride. To the Shimazu, loyalty is everything, and their generals are less likely to develop ambitions of their own. Shimazu katana samurai are cheaper to recruit and maintain in the field than those of other clans; they can also recruit superior katana-armed samurai. The clan can trace its ancestry back to Minamoto Yoritomo, the founder and first shogun of the Kamakura shogunate. In 1187, Yoritomo appointed his son, Tadahisa, as military governor of southern Kyushu. The young man took the name of Shimazu in Hyuga province, his seat of government, as his own. Thanks to a well-organised army and administration, abundant local resources, and a certain distance between Kyushu and the Kamakura court, the Shimazu clan became rich and powerful. They did not, however, become hidebound: when their vassals in Tanegashima met a strange, shipwrecked people from the other side of the world, the Shimazu were quick to see that trade with these “nanban” Europeans might be worthwhile. Now, under the daimyo Shimazu Takahisa, the clan has a chance for true greatness. Their home province of Satsuma is secure, and they are at peace with the Sagara of Higo province to the north. Higo, however, is a tempting target for expansion because of the warhorses to be found there. There is the small matter of a war with the Ito clan in the provinces of Osumi and Hyuga, but once these local difficulties are resolved the distance from Kyushu to the shogun’s palace is not so great after all…
Clan Traits

• Increased loyalty for all generals
• Reduced recruitment costs and upkeep for katana samurai
• Can recruit superior katana heroes
• Can recruit superior katana samurai

[The Dragon of Echigo]

Uesugi for the following reasons:

Uesugi Kenshin's personality, and being one of the most honorable daimyo's of the time. His respect for his main rival, Takeda Shingen, who he solo charged for legendary 1v1 fight in 4th Kawanakajima battle, where Takeda lost many of his best generals. He even sent Shingen his own supplies of salt and rice, when Oda and Hojo clans imposed trade embargo upon Takeda, with message saying: "Wars are to be won with swords and spears, instead of rice and salt". Kenshin refused to take advantage of Takeda decline, by taking his remaining lands, after they lost at Nagashino against Oda-Tokugawa coalition.

Kenshin fought nearly every major power in central and eastern Japan, against the likes of Hojo clan, where he managed to push them to their own capital home castle, after series of victories before that, burning it down, if not for Shingen himself showing again to threat Uesugi domain up north, thus forcing Kenshin to pull back from Hojo campaign.

He showed his general fighting and tactical prowess yet again, when he fought Oda Nobunaga and his allies in Kaga province after Shingen died, and won major victory against them while being outnumbered at Teodorigawa battle. Only his death after that, prevented him of taking his already planned 2nd Oda campaign to deal with him, and his inevitable march to Kyoto and title of Shogun.

I chose Uesugi in first S:TW, because I had fond memories when I was a little kid, playing computer game on Commodore 64, where you were some cool rabbit samurai named Uesugi, dealing with bad guys, doing justice and game being fun.

It seems I made a right choice for Shogun total war, especially after I read history of Kenshin, that just made my choice even more stronger and obvious.

[soheisohei]

Uesugi for the following reasons:

Uesugi Kenshin's personality, and being one of the most honorable daimyo's of the time. His respect for his main rival, Takeda Shingen, who he solo charged for legendary 1v1 fight in 4th Kawanakajima battle, where Takeda lost many of his best generals. He even sent Shingen his own supplies of salt and rice, when Oda and Hojo clans imposed trade embargo upon Takeda, with message saying: "Wars are to be won with swords and spears, instead of rice and salt". Kenshin refused to take advantage of Takeda decline, by taking his remaining lands, after they lost at Nagashino against Oda-Tokugawa coalition.

Kenshin fought nearly every major power in central and eastern Japan, against the likes of Hojo clan, where he managed to push them to their own capital home castle, after series of victories before that, burning it down, if not for Shingen himself showing again to threat Uesugi domain up north, thus forcing Kenshin to pull back from Hojo campaign.

He showed his general fighting and tactical prowess yet again, when he fought Oda Nobunaga and his allies in Kaga province after Shingen died, and won major victory against them while being outnumbered at Teodorigawa battle. Only his death after that, prevented him of taking his already planned 2nd Oda campaign to deal with him, and his inevitable march to Kyoto and title of Shogun.

I chose Uesugi in first S:TW, because I had fond memories when I was a little kid, playing computer game on Commodore 64, where you were some cool rabbit samurai named Uesugi, dealing with bad guys, doing justice and game being fun.

It seems I made a right choice for Shogun total war, especially after I read history of Kenshin, that just made my choice even more stronger and obvious.

Thanks for the insight. You just made me want to play Uesugi even more! Buddhist warrior monk FTW

[Maiden_Ante]

Damn. And I'm such a sucker for Buddhism. Guess Chosokabe will have to do for the first playthrough.

[Baleurion]

Uesugi for the following reasons:

Uesugi Kenshin's personality, and being one of the most honorable daimyo's of the time. His respect for his main rival, Takeda Shingen, who he solo charged for legendary 1v1 fight in 4th Kawanakajima battle, where Takeda lost many of his best generals. He even sent Shingen his own supplies of salt and rice, when Oda and Hojo clans imposed trade embargo upon Takeda, with message saying: "Wars are to be won with swords and spears, instead of rice and salt". Kenshin refused to take advantage of Takeda decline, by taking his remaining lands, after they lost at Nagashino against Oda-Tokugawa coalition.

Kenshin fought nearly every major power in central and eastern Japan, against the likes of Hojo clan, where he managed to push them to their own capital home castle, after series of victories before that, burning it down, if not for Shingen himself showing again to threat Uesugi domain up north, thus forcing Kenshin to pull back from Hojo campaign.

He showed his general fighting and tactical prowess yet again, when he fought Oda Nobunaga and his allies in Kaga province after Shingen died, and won major victory against them while being outnumbered at Teodorigawa battle. Only his death after that, prevented him of taking his already planned 2nd Oda campaign to deal with him, and his inevitable march to Kyoto and title of Shogun.

I chose Uesugi in first S:TW, because I had fond memories when I was a little kid, playing computer game on Commodore 64, where you were some cool rabbit samurai named Uesugi, dealing with bad guys, doing justice and game being fun.

It seems I made a right choice for Shogun total war, especially after I read history of Kenshin, that just made my choice even more stronger and obvious.

Thank you

[Shikayama]

Probably Date, because they have the No Dachi Samurai (I was mistaking mit Naginata Samurai) with double handed swords. Extreme violence!!!

Maybe I will start with Hattori, since it is the special Limited Edition Clan. So it was kind of useful to preorder.

[Choki]

Tokugawa Becouse I love Kessen Game based on it