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    Default 100% Unscripted Battles!

    Ok guys. Time for you to test the AI. (Even if that AI is demo AI)


    - The battle is a 100% unscripted battle.

    - You can also deploy your units as you see fit.

    CA have said there isn't the full AI in the demo.

    I belive there is the Battle AI within the demo.
    All of the tables needed for the AI to exist are there within the data.pack.
    It's unfathomable to think that any of the remaining neccesary stuff like code in the .exe would not be included in the very thing that is meant to be convincing people to buy your product.
    An AI is a complete structure, if you will; a whole entity that works with everything you create of it, you can't just not include parts of it you'd have to go to big lengths to do that, and more to the point, in something trying to convince people to buy the game, why would you not include the best AI you have to sell your game even more?
    Best foot forwards and all that.

    Its completely illogical at best.

    'The Hedge Knight has editted for me a largely flat open map editted from the Historical Battle map.
    With a custom made fair/equal battle and all the scripts removed, we should see what the AI is capable of, even if it's not capable of its full potential in the demo and I turn out to be a complete nutjob.
    Though that battle will come a bit later. The scripting is more complex there.

    So please, try out the mod below, and report back your findings on the AI.

    Remember! I have zero clue if the AI will even react. You should probably expect them to stay in their castle until you arrive at their doors, so don't discount them right away.


    UNSCRIPTED SIEGE BATTLE - DOWNLOAD


    UNSCRIPTED SEKIGAHARA HISTORICAL BATTLE - DOWNLOAD


    TO INSTALL AND USE

    Place file in your data folder.
    Start game.
    Select the historical battle.
    Last edited by .Mitch.; February 25, 2011 at 01:28 PM.

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    Default Re: 100% Unscripted Battle

    *rubs hands together*

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    What i have to do, to play the battle? Choose the Sekigahara battle oder one of the 3 in the campaign?

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    Yes Play Sekigahar. I will make that clear on the OP.

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    Drop the pack in data and choose the historic battle.

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    Okey it work. I will test ist now, but could you add in one version the great guard kavallerie? We can`t build them in the campaign cause a ressource is not avaiable but i would love to see them ingame.

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    MITCH!!!!!!!!! Have I told you that I love you yet!
    Who likes Quitters????
    Vote now at: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=425721




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    Wonderfull,will test tonight,+rep

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    Here goes Mitch hope the AI stand up to the test and are not a bunch of chickens in a dress...
    Budo is not a means of felling the opponent by force or by lethal weapons. Neither is it intended to lead the world to destruction by arms and other illegitimate means. True Budo calls for bringing the inner energy of the universe in order, protecting the peace of the world , as well as preserving, everything in nature in its right form.
    If your opponent tries to pull you, let him pull. Don't pull against him; pull in unison with him.
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    Default Re: 100% Unscripted Battle

    As this is a siege battle and the AI are on the defensive, I feel that the real test will come from an open battle.

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    Just started the battle...a lot of movement inside the castle, at the beginning

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    Yes i played it and i have to say. The AI is very activ but also quit passive. They stand in the castle and never come outside, even with the cav. But inside they really fight.

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    Awesome, I hope it isn't at ETW/NTW standards. *crosses fingers*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aemilius Lepidus View Post
    They stand in the castle and never come outside
    lmao.. thats the idea of a castle mate.

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    Well done Mitchy, you have come out with some really nice mods.
    Have some +rep!

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    The AI works fine. It's abit passive at start but when I moved my units up, it will come after you (when you enter the castle) and go engage you, depending on where you are inside. Also, it had some katana units that went OUTSIDe along with Yari ashigaru to kill my Archers.


    So I have to say, Myth Confirmed!

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    for me at least they acted exactly the same as when it was scripted. Although the units did have a bit different starting locations. Still they wont attack ninjas who try to take the main area
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    very nice!
    hopefully the reacts correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumakil View Post
    for me at least they acted exactly the same as when it was scripted. Although the units did have a bit different starting locations. Still they wont attack ninjas who try to take the main area
    Thats good though, because that means the AI works, which was the essential test.

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    Awsome, so there is definatly an AI in there.

    Soon as I finish this wide open battle scripting, we can then put the AI on the offensive hopefuly, see how he does there.

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