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    TSARDOMS TOTAL WAR - FAMOUS QUOTES

    VERY IMPORTANT!!!: All the quotes must be (late?) MEDIEVAL, must be related to the MOD'S AREA and must have a relation with MILITARY MATTERS. Finally the must be relatively SMALL.


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    Byzantine:
    To surrender the City to you is beyond my authority or anyone else's who lives in it, for all of us, after taking the mutual decision, shall die out of free will without sparing our lives.
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor, Answer to letter of Mehmed II

    God forbid that I should live an Emperor without an Empire. As my city falls, I will fall with it.
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor, May 29, 1453

    Whoever wished to escape, let him save himself if he can; and whoever is ready to face death, let him follow me!
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor, May 29, 1453

    Man has to be ready to face death when he has to fight for his faith, for his country, for his family or for his sovereign. All four reasons are now present.
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor, speaking to his soldiers, May 29, 1453

    Fight in such a way that you will once more prove to the barbarians that you are a nation of masters and not of slaves because this is the most suitable way for the descendants of Greeks and Romans!
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor, speaking to his soldiers, May 29, 1453

    Ι surrender to you the famous city and country of ours, the Queen of Cities.
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor
    , speaking to his soldiers, May 29, 1453

    We have only two things; firstly our faith to the invincible glory of God, and secondly our own hands and brawniness, that were give to us by Divine Power.
    Constantine XI Palaiologos, Last Roman Emperor, speaking to his soldiers, May 29, 1453

    Hunger fights castles and hunger surrenders castles.
    Greek proverb

    If anyone asks you if you can do something, have only two answers: "yes" and "not yet".
    Altheides, Greek Philosopher, 1227

    I would rather see a Muslim turban in the midst of the City than the Latin mitre.
    Loukas Notaras, last Lord High Admiral and Prime Minister of the Roman Empire

    There is nothing more conductive to the destruction of a nation, whether it be republic or monarchy, than the lack of men of wisdom or intellect.
    John VI Kantakouzenos, Roman Emperor

    For we are fallen into so lamentable a weakness, that far from being able to impose the yoke on others, we are hard put to avoid it ourselves...Let us therefore earn once again the esteem of our friends, and the fear of our enemies.
    John VI Kantakouzenos, Roman Emperor, AD 1347

    From that time on with deceit and guile, as is their way, the [Romans] fought battles with the Franks.
    The Chronicle of the Morea, 14th Century

    Even if the sun would have come down, I would have never thought that the Moesian [Bulgarian] arrows were stronger than the Avzonian [Roman] spears.
    John Kyriotes Geometres on the Battle of the Gates of Trajan, AD 986

    ... And when you, Phaethon [Sun], descend to the earth with your gold-shining chariot, tell the great soul of the Caesar: The Danube [Bulgaria] took the crown of Rome. The arrows of the Moesians broke the spears of the Avzonians.
    John Kyriotes Geometres on the Battle of the Gates of Trajan, AD 986

    I shall send...an armed galley to the emperor of Constantinople and shall let him know that I am ready...with as great a company of horse and foot soldiers, all Catalans and Aragonese, as he wishes.
    Roger de Flor, leader of the Catalan Company

    Behold the abomination of desolation
    Patriarch Sophronius of Jerusalem, upon the Arab Conquest

    Why do you take pride in your wickedness, chief of the infidels? Why do you sharpen your treachery like a razor? Why do you brazenly boast before the Almighty?
    Leo III, Roman Emperor, letter to General Maslama

    You insolently envision our Savior and His throne. For these reasons we hope that His mercy which you insult will repay you for your wickedness and that He will silence that abominable mouth of yours...
    Leo III, Roman Emperor, letter to General Maslama

    Now for the Turks’ weapons of war, they do not use spears much, as the Franks do, but surround the enemy completely and shoot at him with arrows, and they make this defence from a distance.
    Anna Komnene, Alexiad, Book XV-III

    My father, the Emperor Alexios, sometimes overcame his adversaries by prowess, and at others by his quick wit, for even during a battle he occasionally thought out some clever device and by daringly using it at once carried off the victory.
    Anna Komnene, Alexiad, Book XV-III

    And Alexios himself imagined that this order of battle would be invincible, and marvelled at its strength and looked upon it as an arrangement directly inspired by God and a marshalling due to the angels.
    Anna Komnene, Alexiad, Book XV-III

    When the Franks became aware of the Sultan's presence, they armed themselves fully and rushed upon the Turks like lions. And then a severe and terrible battle began. But when the sun set the Turks were routed and night decided the battle.
    Anna Komnene, Alexiad, book XI-I

    At the first hour of the night, there appeared a wonderful sign in the sky, which was to tell Constantine the worthy, Emperor of Constantinople, that his proud empire was to come to an end.
    Nicolo Barbaro, Venetian Physician, May 22, 1453

    Farewell Syria, my fair province. Thou art an enemy's now.
    Heraclius, Roman Emperor, after the Battle of Yarmuk

    The Empress has heard much of your ability as a general. Though you are her enemy, she admires you as a soldier.
    Irene, Roman Empress, Letter to Abbasid Caliph Harun Rashid



    Bulgarian:

    If you call one wolf, you invite the pack.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    Dip your tongue in wisdom, then give counsil.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    God promises a safe landing but not a calm passage.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    A fortress surrenders from within.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    From the promise to the deed is a day's journey.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    Where shepherds are lots, sheep are lost.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    He is as stuck as Krali Marko on Kosovo field.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    As you don't want peace, here's your axe.
    Bulgarian Proverb

    Stupid is the blacksmith who can take the hot iron with pincers but instead uses his hands.
    Tsar Michael Shishman to Emperor Andronikos III

    Nobody of our first Tsars seemed to us like this great tsar Ivan Alexander; in his military power he looks to us like a second ancient Alexander the Great, in faith and piety he is a second Saint Constantine; he captured thus all his enemies, put them under his knees and established firm peace in the Universe.
    Anonymous, glorification of Tsar Ivan Alexander

    If you want to kill the serpent, cut its head off.
    Bulgarian Proverb



    Serbian:

    Do not look for new friends, among those who are old enemies.
    St. Sava

    "Whoever is a Serb and of Serb birth,
    And of Serb blood and heritage,
    And comes not to the Battle of Kosovo,
    May he never have the progeny his heart desires,
    Neither son nor daughter!
    May nothing grow that his hand sows,
    Neither dark wine nor white wheat!
    And let him be cursed from all ages to all ages!"
    Prince Lazar curses those who are not taking up arms against the Ottoman Turks at the Battle of Kosovo.


    Better to lose the biggest and the toughest castle on your land than the smallest and the most negligible word of your language.
    Stefan Nemanja, Grand Zupan of Rascia

    As set down in the Code, the judges shall not comply therewith, but shall judge and act withal as justice commandenth.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On the Law

    And whoever shall sell a Christian into another and false faith, let him be crippled and his tongue cut out.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On Heretics

    The poorest spinstress shall be as free as a priest shall.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On Poor Women

    And where a fortress or tower is toppled, let the citizens of that town rebuild it and the district which belongs to that town.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On Building a Fortress

    In every army the commanders shall have the same authority as the Tsar. What they say, let it be obeyed. If anyone disobey them in whatever, he shall be tried in the same way as those who would disobey the Tsar. In judicial matters in the army, both small and great the commanders shall judge them, and nobody else.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On Armies

    Whoever in the army destroys a church, let him be killed or hanged.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On Armies

    All judges shall judge according tot he law, rightly, as is written in the Code, and shall not judge out of fear of the Tsar.
    Tsar Stefan Uros IV Dusan, Code of Dusan, On Justice

    It's easy to be nice in good times, but true heroes can only be seen in difficult times.
    Serbian proverb

    A battle is not won with shiny arms, but with hero's heart.
    Serbian proverb

    Then the Turks overwhelmed Lazar, And the Tsar Lazar was destroyed, And his army was destroyed with him, Of seven and seventy thousand soldiers.
    The Kosovo Cycle

    I do not decide whether I go into a battle by the force that threatens me, but by the sanctity I defend.
    Prince Lazar before the Battle of Kosovo

    I go in battle, not by how large an army I am fighting. But how big sanctity I am protecting.
    Prince Lazar, speaking of the Battle of Kosovo

    I pray the Lord to help the Christians, no matter if I will be the first to die in this war.
    Prince Marko to Despot Constantine Dragash, Battle of Rovine



    Bosnian:

    The entrances to my kingdom are very tough; strong are my castles and at many places impenetrable.
    King Stjepan Tomasevic to the Pope, 1461



    Turkish:

    May he be as good as Osman.
    Turkish Proverb


    There are words that provide ending to wars, and there are words that cause heads to be cut.
    Turkish Proverb

    Shut the gates of the city and govern within it, for everything beyond the walls is mine.
    Sultan Bayezit to Emperor Manuel II

    We were enemies, but nevertheless, his death grieves me, for the world has never known a greater man.
    Sultan Mohammed 1456, on the death of Janos Hunyadi

    Inside the fortress [Sofia] there is a large and elite army, its soldiers are heavily built, moustached and look war-hardened, but are used to consume wine and rakia - in a word, jolly fellows...
    Ottoman commander Lala Shahin, on the garrison of Sofia


    There is only one thing I want - give me Constantinople!
    Mehmed II
    the Conqueror, after refusing a gift from his Grand Vizier

    Kill a brave but dont hide his braveness.
    Turkish proverb

    A carpet is large enough to accommodate two sufis, but the world is not large enough for two Kings.
    Selim I, Ottoman Sultan

    Constantinople will be conquered, blessed is the commander who will conquer it, and blessed are his troops.
    The Prophet Muhammad (Ibn Hanbal, Musnad, 4, 335)

    Although a number of priests, monks, and abbots came out, begging them with the crosses and Bibles they were carrying, the Franks disregarded them, killing them all and plundering the church.
    Ibn Al-Athir, on the 4th Crusade

    He saw that a moon arose from the holy man's chest and came to sink in his own chest. A tree then sprouted from his navel and its shade encompassed the world. Beneath this shade there were mountains,and streams flowed forth from the foot of each mountain.
    Dream of Osman I, founder of the Ottoman dynasty

    May God not give me such a victory again.
    Murad I, After the Battle of Kosovo

    If any whisker of mine knew my plans, i would shave it.
    Mehmed II, During the Siege of Constantinople

    The [enemy's] hand that you cannot cut, kiss it and ask God to break it
    Muslim Proverb

    Then each was ordered to kill his own prisoners, and for those who did not wish to do so the king appointed others in his place. Then they took my companions and cut off thier heads...
    Johann Schiltberger, on the aftermath of Nicopolis, 1396

    Weysit [Beyezid] took to flight, and went with at least 1000 horsemen to a mountain. Temerlin surrounded the mountain so that he could not move and took him.
    Johann Schiltberger, on the aftermath of Ankara, 1402

    Our horses are always ready and our swords are always sharpened.
    Suleiman the Magnificent, Ottoman Sultan, letter written to king Francis I of France



    Wallachia:

    The Sultan goes hunting with more followers than those in your army.
    Vlad II Dracul mocking Janos Hunyadi on his defeat at Varna, 1444

    You can judge for yourselves that when a man or a prince is strong and powerful, he can make peace as he wants to; but when he is weak, a stronger one will come and do what he wants to him...
    Vlad III Dracula Tepes (the Impaler), Voivode of Wallachia

    The bravest and most clever among the Christian princes.
    Leunclavius' speaking of Mircea the Old, Voivode of Wallachia

    How many lords have presided over you boyars? None of you have seen less than seven... the terrible state of this nation is your shameful work!
    Vlad III Dracula, upon his first taking of the throne, adressing his treatcherous boyars before impaling them

    So overwhelmed by disbelief in what he saw, the emperor said that he could not take the land away from a man who does such marvelous things and can exploit his rule and his subjects in this way and that surely a man who had accomplished this is worthy of greater things.
    Chalcondyles, on Sultan Mehmed II's reaction upon finding Vlad Tepes' "forest of stakes"



    Moldova:

    We have defeated them and brought them under foot and put them to the sword for which God must be praised.
    Stephen the Great, Voivode of Moldova, after the battle of Podul Inalt

    This land does not belong to me,neither to you,it belongs to the children of the children of our children.
    Stephen the Great, Voivode of Moldova

    If [the tribute] does not come, you know your fate...
    Ultimatum from Mehmed II to Peter Aron, Voivode of Moldova, 1455



    Hungary:

    To escape is impossible, to surrender is unthinkable. Let’s fight with bravery and honor our arms!
    Janos Hunyadi's proclamation before the Battle of Warna, 1444


    We only, left alone... have endured the fury of the war...
    Janos Hunyadi's declaration of support to the Pope against the Ottomans, shortly before the siege of Nandorfahervar/Belgrade, 1456



    Niccolò Machiavelli


    He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

    If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not to be feared.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

    A prudent man should always follow in the path trodden by great men and imitate those who are most excellent.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter 6

    You should never let things get out of hand in order to avoid war. You don't avoid such a war, you merely postpone it, to your own disadvantage.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter 3

    A prince ought to have no other aim or thought, nor select anything else for his study, than war and its rules and discipline; for this is the sole art that belongs to him who rules, and it is of such force that it not only upholds those who are born princes, but it often enables men to rise from a private station to that rank.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter 14

    One ought to be both feared and loved, but as it is difficult for the two to go together, it is much safer to be feared than loved, if one of the two has to be wanting.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter 17

    One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter 18

    The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter 22

    It is necessary to whoever arranges to found a Republic and establish laws in it, to presuppose that all men are bad and that they will use their malignity of mind every time they have the opportunity.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 1, Chapter 3

    The demands of a free populace, too, are very seldom harmful to liberty, for they are due either to the populace being oppressed or to the suspicious that it is going to be oppressed.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 1, Chapter 4

    For war is made on a commonwealth for two reasons: to subjugate it, and for fear of being subjugated by it.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 1, Chapter 6

    Whenever men are not obliged to fight from necessity, they fight from ambition; which is so powerful in human breasts, that it never leaves them no matter to what rank they rise.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 1, Chapter 37

    Anyone who studies present and ancient affairs will easily see how in all cities and all peoples there still exist, and have always existed, the same desires and passions.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 1, Chapter 39

    It is the common good and not private gain that makes cities great.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 2, Chapter 2

    Cunning and deceit will every time serve a man better than force to rise from a base condition to great fortune.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 2, Chapter 13

    It is not titles that make men illustrious, but men who make titles illustrious.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, Discourses on Livy, Book 3, Chapter 38

    Discipline in war counts more than fury.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, On The Art of War, Book 1

    Good order and discipline in an army are more to be depended upon than ferocity.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, On The Art of War, Book 7

    No proceeding is better than that, which you have concealed from the enemy until the time you have executed it.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, On The Art of War, Book 7

    To know how to recognize an opportunity in war, and take it, benefits you more than anything else.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, On The Art of War, Book 7

    Few men are brave by nature, but good discipline and experience make many so.
    Niccolò Machiavelli, On The Art of War, Book 7






    Italian


    At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box
    Italian proverb

    There is no greater sorrow; Than to be mindful of the happy time; In misery
    Dante Alighieri

    Here must all distrust be left behind; all cowardice must be ended.
    Dante Alighieri, The Inferno, Canto III

    Lying in a featherbed; will bring you no fame, nor staying beneath the quilt,; and he who uses up his life without achieving fame; leaves no more vestige of himself on Earth; than smoke in the air or foam upon the water.
    Dante Alighieri, The Inferno, Canto XXIV

    To wage war, you need first of all money; second, you need money, and third, you also need money
    Prince Raimondo Montecuccoli, The Inferno, Canto XXIV

    I am, indeed, a king, because I know how to rule myself.
    Pietro Aretino





    Austria:

    Alter schutzt vor Torheit nicht - Age does not protect against stupidity.
    Austrian Proverb


    France:

    If we resist our passions, it is more because of their weakness than because of our strength.
    François, Duke de La Rochefoucauld





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    Politics have no relation to morals.
    Unknown

    Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.
    Unknown


    Kill a man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conquerer. Kill everyone, and you are a god.
    Jean Rostand

    The King desires our money; The Queen our manors too; The writ of 'By what warrant'; Will make a sad to-do.
    Walter of Guisborough, English Chronicler

    If you bear the cross gladly, it will bear you.
    Thomas à Kempis, German Canon Regular

    No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary.
    William Occam, English Philosopher and Theologian

    Everyone ought to have pity on the sinner, for God does not wish his death, but wishes him to reform and to live; such a one has fallen into sin but afterwards may rise out of it and lead a just life.
    Christine de Pisan, Italian Author

    For likewise as chivalry gives to a knight all that to him appertains, in likewise a knight ought to give all his forces to honor chivalry.
    Ramon Lull, Book of Knighthood and Chivalry






    "May god forgive his sins."
    After Mohacs, about young Hungarian King who had been killed in the battle.


    Who is that man on this world who can subdue us? For we are accustomed to rule others, not to be ruled by others. In that we will be sure as long as there are wars and swords.
    --Slavic leader Daurentius to Avar envoy, 6th century AD.


    (quotes transfered up to the post #100, November 23, 2012)


    (i will fix some of them and add more.....SpyrosM91)

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    Ibn Battuta visited the city, noting it was a "great city along the sea coast inhabited by Christians, most of them Genoese." He further stated, "We went down to its port, where we saw a wonderful harbor with about two hundred vessels in it, both ships of war and trading vessels, small and large, for it is one of the world's celebrated ports.


    In early 1318 Pope John XXII established a Latin Church diocese of Kaffa, as a suffragan of Genoa. The papal bull of appointment of the first bishop attributed to him a vast territory: "a villa de Varna in Bulgaria usque Sarey inclusive in longitudinem et a mari Pontico usque ad terram Ruthenorum in latitudinem" ("from the city of Varna in Bulgaria to Sarey inclusive in longitude, and from the Black Sea to the land of the Ruthenians in latitude").


    It is better to be on hand with ten men than absent with ten thousand. Tamerlane


    I am the King of Rome, and above grammar. - Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor


    According to the Timurid historians, Timur ordered Malik Shah to construct a large wooden platform on piles to block the entrance to the harbour, which took three days. Doukas, on the contrary, says that the harbour was filled with stones to block ships.[3] Within a few days, the left and right armies had arrived and a general bombardment was ordered. There is no reference to gunpowder, but naphtha and Greek fire were employed by the defenders. According to Sharaf ad-Din:
    [Siege] machines and battering rams broke up the walls and towers, the intrepid besieged never stopped throwing wheeled arrows [sic], pots of naphtha, Greek fire, rocket arrows and stones, without giving way. During this time, it rained so extraordinarily that it seemed that the world was to be destroyed and drowned in a second deluge.[10]
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    Qoutes concering the mods area and its timeframe:

    What we collected so far:

    “To escape is impossible, to surrender is unthinkable.
    Let’s fight with bravery and honor our arms!”
    Janos Hunyadi's proclamation before the Battle of Warna.

    To give you the City is neither my right nor any other's of its inhabitants; for, by a common decision, all of us we shall prefer to die and we shall not spare our lives"
    Constantine XI answer to Mohammed II (May 29, 1453)

    "At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box"
    Italian proverb

    "Kill a man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conquerer. Kill everyone, and you are a god."
    Jean Rostand

    "I do not decide whether I go into a battle by the force that threatens me, but by the sanctity I defend."
    Prince Lazar before the Battle of Kosovo

    "Hunger fights castles and hunger surrenders castles."
    Greek proverb
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    "The backbone of surprise is fusing speed with secrecy."
    - Von Clausewitz (1780-1831)

    "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."
    - Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527), "The Prince"

    "We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction."
    - General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Qoutes concering the mods area and its timeframe

    Quote Originally Posted by BigWhiteWolf View Post
    "The backbone of surprise is fusing speed with secrecy."
    - Von Clausewitz (1780-1831)

    "We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction."
    - General Douglas MacArthur (1880-1964)
    So just a couple of centuries before...


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    "May he be as good as Osman."
    Turkish phrase

    TTW GRANDMASTER

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    • There is no greater sorrow / Than to be mindful of the happy time / In misery
      - Dante Alighieri(1265 - 1321)
    • If you bear the cross gladly, it will bear you.
      - Thomas à Kempis(c. 1380 - 1471)
    • No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary.
      - William Occam(c. 1285 - c. 1349)
    • Everyone ought to have pity on the sinner, for God does not wish his death, but wishes him to reform and to live; such a one has fallen into sin but afterwards may rise out of it and lead a just life.
      - Christine de Pisan(1364 - 1431)
    • The King desires our money, / The Queen our manors too, / The writ of 'By what warrant' / Will make a sad to-do.
      - Walter of Guisborough(1300)
    • For likewise as chivalry gives to a knight all that to him appertains, in likewise a knight ought to give all his forces to honor chivalry.
      - Ramon Lull, Book of Knighthood and Chivalry
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    Don't act like a French.

    FRENCH PROVERB

    Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.
    UNKNOWN


    Those who flee temptation generally leave a forwarding address. ~Lane Olinghouse


    It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways. ~Buddha

    I am,
    indeed,
    a king,
    because I know how
    to rule myself.
    ~Pietro Aretino, 10 May 1537


    If we resist our passions, it is more because of their weakness than because of our strength. ~François, duc de La Rochefoucauld


    For every man there exists a bait which he cannot resist swallowing. ~Friedrich Nietzsche


    The first attribute that characterizes the greater man from the moron is his thicker layer of inhibition. ~Martin H. Fischer



    Being out of control is one of the worst feelings in the world, sometimes even worse than pain. It is its own kind of pain. ~Danzae Pace
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    Take your spears and swords, arrows of bravery. And like your ancestors, fly to the defence of your Serbian homeland...

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    "I would rather see a Muslim turban in the midst of the City than the Latin mitre." -Loukas Notaras, the last Megas Doux of the Byzantine Empire.

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    Any more important Quotes which you think should be in Tsardoms!
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    "Then each was ordered to kill his own prisoners, and for those who did not wish to do so the king appointed others in his place. Then they took my companions and cut off thier heads..."
    -Johann Schiltberger describing the aftermath of Nicopolis, 1396

    "Weysit[Beyezid] took to flight, and went with at least 1000 horsemen to a mountain. Temerlin surrounded the mountain so that he could not move and took him."
    -Johann Schiltberger describing the aftermath of Ankara, 1402

    "There is nothing more conductive to the destruction of a nation, whether it be republic or monarchy, than the lack of men of wisdom or intellect."
    -John VI Kantakouzenos

    "For we are fallen into so lamentable a weakness, that far from being able to impose the yoke on others, we are hard put to avoid it ourselves...Let us therefore earn once again the esteem of our friends, and the fear of our enemies"
    -John VI Kantakouzenos, 1347

    "Then the Turks overwhelmed Lazar, And the Tsar Lazar was destroyed, And his army was destroyed with him, Of seven and seventy thousand soldiers"
    -The Kosovo Cycle

    "Shut the gates of the city and govern within it, for everything beyond the walls is mine."
    -Sultan Bayezit to Emperor Manuel II

    "From that time on with deceit and guile, as is their way, the [Byzantines] fought battles with the Franks"
    -The Chronical of the Morea, 14th Century

    "I shall send...an armed galley to the emperor of Constantinople and shall let him know that I am ready...with as great a company of horse and foot soldiers, all Catalans and Aragonese, as he wishes."
    -Roger de Flor, leader of the Catalan Company
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    "May god forgive his sins."

    After Mohacs, about young Hungarian King who had been killed in the battle.

    "Our horses are always ready and our swords are always sharpened."

    Letter written to Françis I

    "The people think of wealth and power as the greatest fate,
    But in this world a spell of health is the best state."

    These are quotes from Suleiman I.

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    I have some quotes concerning Janos Hunyadi:

    'The Sultan goes hunting with more followers then were in your army.'
    Vlad Dracul mocking Janos Hunyadi on his defeat at Varna. (Can't remember the date, sorry)

    'We only, left alone... have endured the fury of the war...'
    Janos Hunyadi's famous decleration of support against the ottomans to the pope, shortly before the siege of Nandorfahervar/Belgrade 1456

    "We were enemies, but nevertheless, his death grieves me, for the world has never known a greater man"
    Sultan Mohammed 1456 speaking of the death of Janos Hunyadi
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    Thank you guys this is great!
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    "You can judge for yourselves that when a man or a prince is strong and powerful he can make peace as he wants to; but when he is weak, a stronger one will come and do what he wants to him..."
    -Vlad III Dracula (Tepes)

    "The bravest and most clever among the Christian princes"
    -Leunclavius' description of Mircea the Old, ruler of Wallachia.

    "How many lords have presided over you boiars? None of you have seen less than seven... the terrible state of this nation is your shameful work!"
    -Vlad III Dracula, when he first took the throne, adressing his treatcherous boiars before impaling them

    "We have defeated them and brought them under foot and put them to the sword for which God must be praised"
    -Stephen the Great, voievod of Moldavia, after the battle of Podul Inalt

    "If [the tribute] does not come, you know your fate..."
    -ultimatum from Mehmed II to Peter Aron, lord of Moldova, 1455

    "So overwhelmed by disbelief in what he saw, the emperor said that he could not take the land away from a man who does such marvelous things and can exploit his rule and his subjects in this way and that surely a man who had accomplished this is worthy of greater things"
    -Chalcondyles on Sultan Mehmed II's reaction upon finding Vlad Tepes' "forest of stakes"
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    Default Bosnian ask for help to the pope

    I think you might use this for the Bosnian faction. It is a messege from the Bosnian king to the pope. I translated it for you.


    Pismo kralja Stjepana papi iz 1461. godine


    Messege from king Stjepan Tomasevic to the pope from 1461
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    I moja ce propast povuci za sobom i mnoge druge. Dojde glas Kraljevstvu mi kako Car Turski Muhamed namjerava dojduceg ljeta udariti s vojskom na mene i da je zato sve potrebito prigotovio. Tolkoj sili Turachkoj ja sam ne mogu odoljeti.

    -The destruction of my kingdom will lead to the destruction of many others. There are rumours that the Turkish Tzar Muhamed is building plans to attack my kingdom by the beginning of next summer and that he collected all his forces for this already. We can't give resistence to such a big army.



    Umiljeno sam molio Ugarsku i Bnetachku gospodu i Jurija Kastriota jeda bi mi u ovoj nevolji pohitali u pomoc, sto molim i tebe, svepochtenog, uzmoznog i presvijetlog gospodina i oca. Ja ne istem zlatnih brda, ali bih bio rad da moji neprijatelji kao i ljudi u mojoj zemlji uznaju kako mi tvoja pomoc nece uzmanjkati.



    -I humble asked the Hungarian king, the Bnetick lord and Jurija Kastriot for help and now I am asking the same to you, holy Father. I don't expect golden mountains but I would be grateful if my enemies as well as the people of my country would see that your help will come true.



    Jere, ako Bošnjani budu vidjeli da u ovoj rati nece biti sami i da ce im mnogi ini pomioci - hrabrije ce u rat iti i vojevati, a tagdi i Turachka vojska nece bez straha u moje vladanje naprasno ulisti.

    -If the Bosnjans see that they won't be left alone in this unfair war and that many others will help; they will fight harder and more decisively. The Turks won't enter my kingdom without fear if we gather our strengths.



    Prilizi u moju zemlju su veoma teski, a tvrde na mnogim mjestima nedobitne, tere ne dopustaju da se prodre u moje Kraljevstvo.

    -The entrances to my kingdom are very tough, strong are my castles and at many places impenetrable.



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    kada se bjehmo svadili, tada nas Stjepan Rajkovic umiri i da nam nas grad Bobovac, a neda ga dati Ugrom.

    "And when we were in a quarrel between each other; Stijepan Rajkovic calmed us down. And we entrusted our capital of Bobovac to him after which he defended it against the Hungarians (King Tvrtko I Kotromanic 1366.)"

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    This is nice thread.

    At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side, and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Ireneus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth—no one

    —St. Sava to Ireneus, 13th century

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    Please use English versions for quotations.
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    I could see that quote applying to all Orthodox now a days to be honest.
    "Mors Certa, Hora Incerta."

    "We are a brave people of a warrior race, descendants of the illustrious Romans, who made the world tremor. And in this way we will make it known to the whole world that we are true Romans and their descendants, and our name will never die and we will make proud the memories of our parents." ~ Despot Voda 1561

    "The emperor Trajan, after conquering this country, divided it among his soldiers and made it into a Roman colony, so that these Romanians are descendants, as it is said, of these ancient colonists, and they preserve the name of the Romans." ~ 1532, Francesco della Valle Secretary of Aloisio Gritti, a natural son to Doge

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    St.Sava was smart man ! And we ,small nation should ask ourselves why are we so small and poor . And once we were a place of culture and strength in Europe !?
    "At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side- and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Irenaeus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth--no one." - St. Sava (of Serbia) to Irenaeus, 13th century



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    Who is that man on this world who can subdue us? For we are accustomed to rule others, not to be ruled by others. In that we will be sure as long as there are wars and swords.

    --Slavic leader Daurentius to Avar envoy, 6th century AD.
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