"Green" Mordor

[Mikail Mengsk]

The dark texture of Mordor's terrain is incredibly annoying to me: i have to stress my eyes just to check my unit's position.

[Lazy]

mmmh... isn´t there an avtive volcano?
Who is dump enough to live next to that? Nothing can grow there as every day new ashes is coming down... I always thaught that´s why its so dark there...
Exept all people near Neapel and Yellow Stone Park... they are not of course...

[Mikail Mengsk]

Who is dump enough to live next to that?

The Orodruin isn't always active, that's why maybe some settlements could be built around it, and not left even if the volcano wakes up. Just how it works in the real world.

[KnightsTemplar]

When Amon Amrath awakes, it's a sign ''s coming'.
For some time in the TA is reamins 'dead'- when Sauron returns to Barad-dur, it awakes.
Thus come the name 'Mount of Fate'- 'Mount of Doom'.

[Lazy]

When Amon Amrath awakes, it's a sign ''s coming'.
For some time in the TA is reamins 'dead'- when Sauron returns to Barad-dur, it awakes.
Thus come the name 'Mount of Fate'- 'Mount of Doom'.

So... this vulcano is active only if Sauron is "there" ?!

[Mhaedros]

Sauron "awakened" it one can say. When Sauron dies, it falles apart

[KnightsTemplar]

Sort of- Sauron's linked to the volcano through the One Ring forged deep in the mountain itself...
And it's destruction probably caused the largest eruption(IIRc, can't remember if it's mentions or just movie savvy)
Sauron's presence may not be the only cause and 'requirement' for the volcano to awake- but it's related surely.
The Sindarin name does mean something indeed.

[webba84]

Yeah but that has the RTW diplomacy and we all know that it ruins every game

Apparently in the new version to be released soon (we all hope) they have fixed the diplomacy so that allies dont attack you. If they have actually achieved this in the RTW engine they are modding Gods but in any case the storyline and lore of FATW (which they have done really carefully and respectfully imho) is such that Good and Evil are much more obscure and there is more of a reason for any faction to fight each other anyway.

On the farming textures thing I know that the farms do affect the campaign but to what extend and how much this is controllable by modders I have no idea. If you could get a really strong visual effect it would be great to allow good factions to try and heal the land.

[Pipoka]

I would love to see this feature! I don't have any modding skills, but can anyone try it? Should be fairly simple if these 3 steps are possible:

-Make a building that's only available to the good factions.
-Make so that it can only build in areas that meet a special requirement (either an AOR type thing, a per-region authorization, or dependent on the existence of a "special" resource) and give it only to the Mordor regions.
-Make that building grant the "green" texture of crops (I believe this effect has been disabled by this mod. It's only a matter of reinstating it under these "special" circumstances), and enlarge it's area to cover most of the region.

As a bonus, you could give it special features to convey the idea that the region has been colonized by a "good" faction, such as giving cultural bonus to that faction, or pop-growth bonus due to the renewed fertility of the land!

[marceror]

Mordor in my game is starting to look a little greener, at least, as I upgrade settlements as the High Elves. You see a nice green settlement with trees. I like to imagine that the lands are healing very slowly, even if there isn't much of a visual representation of it.

[Nastrael]

if you could get this to happen with good factions why not with evil factions? like how Isengard went from a fertile beautiful tree garden to a black, ash-covered area filled with pits and caverns. ive heard the farm idea before on a different mod (Warcraft Total War, in regards to plague cauldrens and the effect on the area it would have) and it seems to be quite a viable option. its probably the best choice actually. but w/e good luck with that

[Pipoka]

Yes I guess you could also make it with evil factions ^^ I hadn't thought of that but yes it makes sense!

[Hallow]

This is, bar none, my most wanted feature in TATW, submod or otherwise. At the moment I just avoid actually conquering Mordor proper and limit myself to holding them in by defending Minas Ithil and the Black Gate.

[Pipoka]

Indeed! I've just registered on the forums and this was, along with praising a sub-mod and making some suggestions to it, the main reason for me doing so!

[Pinkie Pie]

I do not think Mordor needs changing. It would take thousands of years to fully remove the evil of Souron and the mod does not last 1/10 that time
Even if you were to take Mordor right away and hold it until the final turn your faction would have held it only 1/10th of the time required to start changing the land.

[marceror]

Thousands of years? I know a guy who can do it in 12! His uncle's got this ultimate set of tools.

[Hermes Trismegistos]

Well, at least Gondor seems to have achieved not much in nearly 2000 years...

On a more serious note, of course there is someone who could do it in an instant:



(Look towards the end, 3:30 more or less...)

[marceror]

Wow, now we know what would happen if the One Ring ever got into the hands of an overly ambitious gardener!

[Pipoka]

Wow, now we know what would happen if the One Ring ever got into the hands of an overly ambitious gardener!

Eheh ^^

But seriously, can anyone try this out?

[Withwnar]

I would love to see this feature! I don't have any modding skills, but can anyone try it? Should be fairly simple if these 3 steps are possible:

-Make a building that's only available to the good factions.
-Make so that it can only build in areas that meet a special requirement (either an AOR type thing, a per-region authorization, or dependent on the existence of a "special" resource) and give it only to the Mordor regions.
-Make that building grant the "green" texture of crops (I believe this effect has been disabled by this mod. It's only a matter of reinstating it under these "special" circumstances), and enlarge it's area to cover most of the region.

As an initial test run perhaps just "switch on" farming map effects in this region and see what it looks like. Not literally "switch on"; I'm sure that it is a lot more involved than that. I have no idea how myself. Even patches of green would be something.

Are changes to the campaign map reflected in save games? If so you could use a command line switcher ala .:Zack Fair:.'s Arnor/Eriador switcher.

I was wondering this too. Another copy of the map with green (grass) features/terrain in this area.