do we scare you (EOD's original proposal)

**Halie Satanus** · January 25, 2006, 05:28 PM

my tutorial on editing banners icons in photoshop.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=44952
my piece on the origins of evil.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47934
my pic's thread.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48062
My first proper post as a civitate(if you like comics take a look)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...291#post919291

Dev forums
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=200
300
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=561

**Hyungoku** · January 25, 2006, 05:32 PM

what are they suposed to be

**Halie Satanus** · January 25, 2006, 05:35 PM

leigion for we are many

just seeing if i can entice someone with a good knowlage of codeing to help out on an end of days mod,

set in the dark ages

briton,france,germanic,moors,satanae

screenshots
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42436

**PatWest** · January 26, 2006, 03:09 AM

=halie satanus
would any one be interested if there was a new faction in bi

Those skins/models look real good, oh, I mean real EVIL!

I would actually prefer a complete mod based on a powers of darkness versus light theme.
Lot of work though.

**Justinian** · January 26, 2006, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by halie satanus

leigion for we are many

I see I'm not the only one who thought that was a snappy response to Jesus.

**Halie Satanus** · January 26, 2006, 03:34 AM

hmmm maybe something set at the time of arthurs(last true hier to rome) death,the rise of the army nation of magog scourgeing the world in preperation for the birth of the anti-christ,
grail knights cut off in distant lands besiged on all sides by brigands and the forces of evil,
tenuous alliences between the christian and moorish factions,

maybe if a couple of people put thier heads together they could make a start, lot of work though

oh ui cards chosenwargaurd hope thier ok(i took a shot anway)

"catervatium imperatae recoligo" - sabbath,

**PatWest** · January 26, 2006, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by halie satanus

hmmm maybe something set at the time of arthurs(last true hier to rome) death,the rise of the army nation of magog scourgeing the world in preperation for the birth of the anti-christ,
grail knights cut off in distant lands besiged on all sides by brigands and the forces of evil,
tenuous alliences between the christian and moorish factions,

maybe if a couple of people put thier heads together they could make a start, lot of work though

I think the idea of blending your ideas into an Arthurian based mod is very intriguing.
Perhaps Mordred and company could represent one faction. Starting it during or before Uther Pendragon would allow for many possibility's. Merlin and the fairy realm for the light magic, several human factions maybe more than one faction aligned with the dark forces to allow for a falling out amongst allies? If you decide to go for a full conversion mod I would be interested in offering my modest skills to do some of the grunt work.

Originally Posted by halie satanus

oh ui cards chosenwargaurd hope thier ok(i took a shot anway)

Thanks, I'll give them a try when I get home.

**Lusted** · January 26, 2006, 06:50 AM

Moved. Should have been posted in the Modification and Conversion Projects forum.

**Halie Satanus** · January 26, 2006, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by PatWest

I think the idea of blending your ideas into an Arthurian based mod is very intriguing.
Perhaps Mordred and company could represent one faction. Starting it during or before Uther Pendragon would allow for many possibility's. Merlin and the fairy realm for the light magic, several human factions maybe more than one faction aligned with the dark forces to allow for a falling out amongst allies? If you decide to go for a full conversion mod I would be interested in offering my modest skills to do some of the grunt work.

Thanks, I'll give them a try when I get home.

ok as my capability in codeing is restricted by my lack of patience i really need someone to run that side of things,
as i think your modesty in your own ability is a block i'd like to offer that post to you formally.

although the time period appeals greatly as it removes the restrictions of history the magic side
makes me hesitant (there are no hounds of cullan in my celts)
as a source for arthurian legend im basing my ideas on "arthur the king" allen massie,
his is a more realist view of events with merlin more of a confidence man and guidence counselour

the other source is the legend of magog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
as i think the two storys could fit well in game.

what ive done so far is first run re-skins of all wre-english,franks-french,saxon-germans,satanae,
some of which are here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42436
new banners some music and intro film
(these are only first runs and subject to input im reluctant to put more on public show as if this takes off there needs to be some surprises!)

just out of interest the main themes im using are psalm 50 miserere mei deus(christian)and venus in furs-velvet underground (satanae)
i hope to bring out something stylish, and challenging in game play(i hav'nt lost more than a hundred men in battle for a long time)

so are you willing to take a leap of faith so to speak?

any one else interested let me know as i think something wicked may well come this way,

**PatWest** · January 26, 2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by halie satanus

ok as my capability in codeing is restricted by my lack of patience i really need someone to run that side of things,
as i think your modesty in your own ability is a block i'd like to offer that post to you formally.

Ok, maybe a little false modesty is my style. I have no doubts about what I am capable of. I also am very confident of my ability to learn rapidly. It is a simple matter of time. How much effort do I wish to apply in learning these highly specialized skills. I really want to get back to playing some. If I was to jump on board I could write all the text files for any unit you need.
A name and the model it goes on would be all I needed to set everything up for you and then we could haggle about the stats. I don't do artwork/graphics at this time.

Originally Posted by halie satanus

although the time period appeals greatly as it removes the restrictions of history the magic side
makes me hesitant (there are no hounds of cullan in my celts)
as a source for arthurian legend im basing my ideas on "arthur the king" allen massie,
his is a more realist view of events with merlin more of a confidence man and guidence counselour

I thought given your avatar of choice, and the subjects of the really fine artwork you do, that some supernatural forces would be in play. After all, that Old school biblical stuff, God vs Satan is full of mystical powers. Then again this game engine isn't really designed to support that kind of thing.

Originally Posted by halie satanus

just out of interest the main themes im using are psalm 50 miserere mei deus(christian)and venus in furs-velvet underground (satanae)
i hope to bring out something stylish, and challenging in game play(i hav'nt lost more than a hundred men in battle for a long time)

so are you willing to take a leap of faith so to speak?

any one else interested let me know as i think something wicked may well come this way,

Right at this very moment my prime goal is to put out my own mod, the main point of which is to prove something to myself and to show others what I can do. This would then, possibly, be a sort of resume. I think I'll be done with my mod in a couple of weeks.

I am still interested in the direction you are going so I will keep in contact. When and if you think you have a viable concept let me know and I'll see where I stand. People can lose interest real fast around here. I have more time than most to devote to my new hobby so if I decide to help I can get alot done for you. If I agree to join up I'll stick it out to the end. If I don't want to take it on I'll tell straight up and not leave you hanging. One other project I'd like to see get off the ground is Zulu total war.

Respectfully Yours,

PatWest

**Halie Satanus** · January 26, 2006, 10:49 AM

cant say fairer than that

ill keep pluging away (of course a full indepth photoshop skinning guide can be wrtten up as a sweetener, in true roman style :original:

as for me losing interest, not likely as ive been researching this stuff for many years as a basis
for a novel :wink:

*as a foot note your idea for provisional campaines is very interesting (if i understand it correctly which is of course debtable) couldnt belive it hadnt already been done.

oh and sorry if you felt a bit rail-roaded it kind of was my intention :original:

**PatWest** · January 28, 2006, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by halie satanus

cant say fairer than that

ill keep pluging away (of course a full indepth photoshop skinning guide can be wrtten up as a sweetener, in true roman style :original:

as for me losing interest, not likely as ive been researching this stuff for many years as a basis
for a novel :wink:

*as a foot note your idea for provisional campaines is very interesting (if i understand it correctly which is of course debtable) couldnt belive it hadnt already been done.

oh and sorry if you felt a bit rail-roaded it kind of was my intention :original:

Nothing to be sorry about.

I thought I had spoken a little too casually about helping and wanted to make things clearer. I've seen so many flare ups around here over comunication errors. For many english is not their first language, so just in case.

I did think you were having some fun with me, sort of the hot potato kind of play.

Here I don't want this you take it. :laughing:

I forgot in which thread I discussed the mulitple campaign idea. If thats what you're referring too. I just thought that since it wasn't too hard for me to make unique descr_strat files that I could package a bunch them with a mod for a variety of startup conditions. Vanilla, Unified Rome, Advanced date Roman civil war, several handicapped starting points for a real challenge.

Once the concept is more or less complete in my head then each file would take a few hours tops. The radar maps I havn't trained myself to do, they are not entirely necessary but do add to the polish, along with full descriptions for each scenario. So maybe 4-5 hours if I figure out how to do the maps.

**Halie Satanus** · January 28, 2006, 09:14 AM

it seems i did get your idea, i think it becomes clear after many hours spent on different factions that the ai deals with situations in predictable ways,you pretty much know that if you leave certain areas with little defence they will plod along unhindered or certain cities will always revolt your plan would definately throw a spanner into most peoples stratergy (i wonder what the latin of spanner is, might make a good name

).
catervatim imperatae recoglio
(generals gathered in their masses)

**Halie Satanus** · February 02, 2006, 04:40 PM

**PatWest** · February 04, 2006, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by halie satanus

catervatim imperatae recoglio
(generals gathered in their masses)

though i'd do a progress report on whats done

reskined v.2 franks,wre,ere,rebel wre/ere saxons,satanae.
new intro movie,all loading screens,all title bars,unit banners,buttons,new knights for all factions,strat map reskin,

Nice work.
Just like Witches at Black Masses, don't know Latin though.

Originally Posted by halie satanus

wondering why no one else is posting comments here, why i'm talking to myself, and what is arsene wenger doing

I think everybody else is too busy. This site is having some trouble too. OgresNet isn't getting their job done and it's effecting the usefuleness of this site.

What's your overall concept? How much detail have you fleshed out. I know I'm supposed to read that bit about Magog and such but that will just give me a vague sketch of where you're going with it.

**Halie Satanus** · February 04, 2006, 09:37 PM

okay i guess with a map i like sels but i also like the larger maps, room to expand is important and the basic factor there will be less factions,
i'm basing this mod on the conceit that when rome crumbled and was abandoned by all but the church in the dark ages a satanic nation rose in the east (turkey) this fits well with many theory's from atlantis and troy back to where noah is supposed to have landed, its also where magog was/is situated in myth, and is fairly central on the map. so time frame is before arthur and uther though they could appear
near the end tying us

nicley into the greater mod scheme of things,ive really want to pair this down so the emphesis is on hard fought battles, so no peasants and faster to recruit heavy units, at the start there is a tenuous peace between the christian factions who are all at war with the satanae.

the basic story of magog is that in preperation of the anti-christ an army nation rises made up from the dregs of the earth, this gives us the opportunity to utilise the best (apart from the spartans) units from rtw and bi to forge super armies :laughing:

everything else is in the details which need to be worked out as we go,

the version ive modded looks and plays well from the intro movie into custom battles, most of the graphics work is done though i do need to reskin the french i did them white then blue then rememberd they were blue now their heading towards purple

the faction list is now....

britons,french,germans,spanish,satanae,iluminate(rebels),vatican guard(rome) and slaves,

(the iluminate are the old err and wrr linked to the britons and spanish and are the faction seen in screenshots)

i'll pm you the intro movie sometime this week, my intention was after the titles to run some quik fade replays but as they have to be rendered as tga's my very tired old comp can't handle them so i'll do it with some retouched stills
of battle sceens,the title seqence outlines the story and sets a fairly good atmospheare along with the faction descriptions.