What if: the Axis won WW2.

[Rock.]

If the Axis powers won World War 2, aside from the fact of homosexuals, gypys, Jews, and the mentally ill being executed - would the world be a safer and more successful place?

It would seem that either all other countries would be conquered, or other countries would adopt fascism and ally with Germany.

But then, just like is happening in Egypt right now, there would be massive revolts for a new leader. Would it be a more secure government, or an unstable government?

[conon394]

If the Axis powers won World War 2, aside from the fact of homosexuals, gypys, Jews, and the mentally ill being executed - would the world be a safer and more successful place?

Umm and the Poles and Russians, Blacks and likely any other inferior race that stoped having a short term war benefit...

The mind boggles however that you can even ask the question...

I think Churchill's answer stands:

...then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.

Would a Axis world be more stable maybe but its a nightmare world I cannot really even want to think about and hey I'm Polish I guess I would not have a ticket anyway

[Jaketh]

well i wouldnt be killed off so it probably wouldnt bother me, the germans had some of the best and innovative technology of the war. if that kept on going we may have gotten to the moon earlier among other things. Still an oppressive genocidal empire probably wouldnt be good for humanity in the long run

[conon394]

the germans had some of the best and innovative technology of the war

Really, they also had an impressively inefficient economy and their technological achievements are notably overstated in general.

[Jaketh]

Really, they also had an impressively inefficient economy and their technological achievements are notably overstated in general.

oh really? we got to the moon and developed the atom bomb(sort of) based off technology captured from the germans and german scientists

[Panzerbear]

National-Socialism is not all that different from plain old Socialism.

Stalin also committed all sorts of atrocities and ordered hundreds of thousands of people dead. but USSR was hardly a hell on earth, and in the long term, collapsed, as people grew sicken tired of living in . I think the same thing would have happened if Nazis won the war. they would have created all sorts of havoc initially, but then probably evolved into one big fat assed bureaucracy that would have rotten from within and eventually collapsed.

[Manco]

All minorities dead, Slavic countries will be partly 'depopulated' and recolonized, all Germanic peoples will in time be forced to become proper German, long term probably the same for Romance countries, militaristic and bloody exploitation of all African and Asian countries,...

But it was frankly impossible to win for the Axis, even in the case of a military miracle they'd still have to deal with very hostile populations.

[conon394]

the atom bomb(sort of) based off technology captured from the germans and german scientists

The German researchers had no ideal how to make an atomic bomb and absolutely nothing in the US/UK program had anything at all to do do with German science - the German ideals for a bomb were frankly comedy.

As for the moon if the US had simply given Goddard the same budget it later gave a Nazi slave labor using evil unapologetic bastard like von Braun we would still have got to the moon.

[Vezon]

oh really? we got to the moon and developed the atom bomb(sort of) based off technology captured from the germans and german scientists

Umm...We developed the Bomb on our own. We were still at war with Germany when it was finished. And Germany's research was sabatoged by Niels Bohr. He didn't want the likes of Hitler getting it, so he fouled up results and had the Germans headed in the wrong direction. And Hitler, as a result, focused on other technologies due to the time it said it was going to take to develop the bomb. And Axis Germany was a Hitler phenomenon. Without him, it would have collapsed, though I don't know to what extent. He probably would've died in the 50s, or so I've been told. The guy was on anphenamines, for crying out loud!

[knight of virtue and valor]

The world would be ever so screwed. oh, and I would be dead, as I wont put down my guns, I wont put down my bible, and I sure as hell wont let go of my black\hispanic\not Aryan friends.

[Vezon]

Well, I don't know what would happen to me. I'd probably be considerd a mongrel, seeing as I'm about a quarter German and a quarter Polish(the rest of me is from the British Isles).

[Nimthill]

I'm Dutch and born after the way after the war, so both me and my parents would probably have been indoctrinated by the nazi regime and I'd be a staunch supporter of Hitler & his legacy. I rather prefer this world, thank you very much.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Well, I don't know what would happen to me. I'd probably be considerd a mongrel, seeing as I'm about a quarter German and a quarter Polish(the rest of me is from the British Isles).

You could have one untermensch grandparent and not be a subhuman.

I'm fully Irish on both sides of the family, so I guess I would be category III on the Volksliste - indigenous, racially acceptable non-German people.

[Mr. Scott]

oh really? we got to the moon and developed the atom bomb(sort of) based off technology captured from the germans and german scientists

As the cold war joke goes between the US and USSR
"Our german scientists are better than your german scientists"

[Tiwaz]

It would seem that either all other countries would be conquered, or other countries would adopt fascism and ally with Germany.

Actually that is very unlikely. Anyone who says that has little appriciation to how bloody HUGE this mudball is.

Allies won, but they did not conquer the world either. Hell, they had no means to do that. Or force whole globe to be their allies.

Most likely Germany would have taken pretty much what it took from Europe, possibly giving some form of autonomy or independence of some western nations with "suitable" leadership ensured (not that much different from what allies did to occupied axis nations). German borders widened radically towards east, with plenty of lebensraum for the "aryan" race, with slight issue that amount of deaths would have made the extra space rather unnecessary.

Japan would have it's empire more or less at extent it got during it's largest expansion, likely forced to downsize due to lack of manpower though.

Dominant powers economically, politically and diplomatically would be axis nations, which would shape global political environment quite a bit.

So I would say that it would be very different worldto world, but at same time it would be very similar.
Some things would happen most likely in quite similar way as they did in our history, just switch nametags "USA & USSR" with "German & Japan".

[Stavroforos]

Hell on earth for some years, then it would moderate out.

[Scipio Afracanis]

I think the tricky thing would be in the succession. Who gets to be top dog after Hitler goes down?

Alot of alternate history books go with Himmler but you never know if power struggles could cause massive civil war.(SS vs Wer ect....)

Plus Resistance movements all over conquered areas, they would have to keep large amounts of troops in areas from France to Moscow perhaps.

Like others said, replace the Soviets with the Nazis, collapse sooner.

[Tiwaz]

Like others said, replace the Soviets with the Nazis, collapse sooner.

Not necessarily. What we have to take into account is that USA would not be or become any kind of top dog.

Odds would be that USA, Canada & AuNz would form some kind of mutual buddies club trying to hunker down.
Britain would be too scared of chance that victorious Germany decides to kick it down to join them.

USA would not boost into power and tech advantage, they got huge boost from rebuilding which would not take place now. And those scientists mentioned.

Germany would have slight tech advantage, but it would be reduced by amount of rebuilding required in Europe.

It would most likely evolve into some sort of pissing contest between Germany and Japan while AUCANUSNZ-block tries to stay safely isolated.

Japan might have better stability compared to Germany, but they are hurting by having more fractured empire and technological gap.

[Scipio Afracanis]

I could say Soviet/Nazi nations are doomed to failure. Other might say it took alot for the USSR to go down, 60 ish years plus an arms race, a long draining war ect.......

Axis "win" could mean a few things, British Isles invaded, Mid East or the oil parts at least in the Axis hands, an advantageous peace with Russia, Japan gets to keep Asia and stays out of the Pacific for the most part. So the USA could still be a top power with Japan and is Asian Co. on one side, and a Greater Reich on the other.
Russia reduced to a mid/minor power, Britain either garrisoned to the teeth by American or smaller power allied to the Reich. As long as Britain is afloat then USA would have a launching pad to have the threat of atom bombs so that Germany would think twice of trying to invade if they survived that long.

Germany would have some tech advantages but to keep all there "allies" running, hundreds of thousands of German troops in 10-20 nations, no clear leadership plan after one dictator dies, interacting with other great powers. Hard to say either way but unless they changed things after Hitler is dead they would end up in the same boat the Soviets were in only faster.

[kambiz]

Many of people (especially those who their country were not occupied and harmed by Nazis) may fascinated and consider German military and technology superior to others at the time ,However as conan394 and many others saied ,World under Nazis would have been a big nightmare perhaps beyond our imaginations