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    Default Proposal to get rid of several procedures

    [See also this thread on a closely related topic. -Simetrical]
    Consuls – Senior Staff, Magistrate & Triumvirate member

    Two Consuls will be chosen to aid in the day to day administrative tasks of the site. One shall be chosen by the Imperator and act as imperial consul. The Second Consul is elected by the Civitates; only members who currently hold the rank of Prefect or have held senior staff rank in TWC within the last year are qualified to be appointed Imperial Consul or run for Republican Consul and any nomination is subject to veto according to the Staff veto act. The Republican Consul is also Syntagma Curator and responsible for the Curia. Consuls wield administrative powers greater then all magistrates except the Imperator.
    Change into..
    both consuls are being chosen by the Imperator and ON

    or let it be as it is now
    When the need arises for a new Consul, senior staff will open a poll in the curia listing all the suitable candidates and clearly indicating those they have vetoed. In order to qualify members must be serving, or have served, as senior staff in TWC within the last year.



    6 Quaestors are elected falling under the responsibility of the Triumvirate with a staff normally having three Quaestors in the Common community and three in the Total war community. Quaestors are promoted from current Cohortes Praetoria or anyone who has held magisterial rank within the last year. When a Quaestor steps down and abdicates their duties, or is deemed by the Triumvirate to be ineffectual in their duties and removed from their position, a new Quaestor must be elected. Quaestors will be directly elected by the Civitate members in the Curia. Ogre’s Net and Senior staff reserves the right to veto any candidate in accordance to the Staff veto act if they deem them unfit for the job.
    Change into
    quaestors are elected by senior staff

    or let them make a list of the suitable candidates who are interested to become a Quaestor. So first senior staff reviews applications, vetoes if necessary, and then let civitates decide who should be promoted.

    i prefer the first option though. So that the quastor election will be unnecessary.


    Syntagma Pro-Curator
    get rid of this rank

    Prothalamos
    get rid of it

    Praefecti Appointments

    When the need for a Prefect arises, the Imperator is expected to Open an opinion thread listing all the suitable candidates in the curia and take both the opinions of the Civitates and the opinions of his present staff into consideration. The imperator will then directly appoint a prefect taking into consideration the opinions of both staff and Civitates.
    no need for an opinion thread..
    senior staff and ON opinion is enough already

    Ostrakon
    get rid of it

    Legislation Act
    Curia Votes Act
    The Staff Veto Act
    get rid of it, not relevant anymore



    My proposal is not worded detailed yet. But we can discuss it.
    its a start..

    So basically...
    let's just get rid of the RPG elements of the Curia.
    and let it reflect the real situation here on TWC

    I am not criticizing anyone.
    But seriously, the syntagma is just a farce..in many aspects..
    and some claim it to be the "Soul of TWC"...
    however I question its value, and its importance.. in its current form
    and I am willing to discuss whether it should be drastically changed.

    the best part is the patronizing thingie..
    thats pretty much it

    Staff nominations should be in hands of ON and staff. Or perhaps in some cases allow civitates to vote on a candidate. (a list with all candidates who are suitable and who are interested to do the job, and whose entry is approved by staff)

    To quote one of my own posts, in which I reply to a member who proposes Civitates giving more power.

    giving civitates more power, is something that will have only affect on paper. In practice it will always be a different story. The consul and the imperator already have a good amount of power. I Instead of giving more power to the civitates, I would love to see that power being held in the hands of "senior and junior staff". Especially when all PP's agree on something, that should have some influence. Reading a forum is one thing. Moderating it, is totally different and staff members should be the ones to have a decisive say on it .Giving suggestions about political parties and interest groups, increasing powers of civitates, is nice to increase the RPG level of the site. But you have to keep in mind the situation as it is now already. ON controls the site and is always open for suggestions. And in most cases they will enforce and renew forum policies in accordance with staff members. Your suggestions wont change this at all. In other words: you may think, that you have power. In reality you dont, and you are just a member contributing to this excellent forum, who has the ability to give suggestions. Which in my opinion is the best basis for keeping the forum in good shape anyway. I have never liked additional bureaucracy.

    I mean, sure lets all begin political parties... etc etc ..
    but the Curia has enough RPG elements already..
    and in practice, your opinion is always appreciated. But the implemantation of it lies in the hands of others.
    Yes.. we can have funny discussions about bills and amendments..
    but keep in mind that really it only has a fun purpose..

    so should we discuss things, that ultimately can be vetoed upon by ON or senior staff anyway..
    should we have a syntagma in its current form, keeping in mind its value?
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    While I can see why you like a simplification of the current system I think most of us here appreciate the way the RPG that is the Curia and all its procedures work... Just let it be.


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    Ave grandpa!

    I have a really bad day. Am I stupid?

    I am again desorientated.

    Grandpa, give me some of your pills. please ...

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    Are you only joking, grandpa? Because I take it seriously now.
    I am so omnipotent ... (only the pills :wink: )

    A nice suggestion. It is so .... frank toward the all of members with unnecessary illusions ...

    But it could be still more hard to all of us . You must still a bit thought about in some your lucid interval

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    I think but a simplification of our beautiful illusion is required. Because there's a line between a great RPG which affects some forum policy, and it influencing the way the site is run TOO much.

    The problem is finding the middle ground.

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    simplification of the current system
    exactly..

    think most of us here appreciate the way the RPG that is the Curia and all its procedures work
    It may be seen as fun,
    I consider it a waste of time.. and plain bureaucracy.

    and it influencing the way the site is run TOO much.
    because then we breach the syntagma , or veto anyway...

    I ll give some detailed suggestions the coming days..
    meanwhile you can give your own thoughts about the flaws in the syntagma

    Sin..
    what the hell are you talking about..
    lay down those pills
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    Quote Originally Posted by MareNostrum
    Sin..
    waht the hell are you talking about..
    lay down those pills

    I ll give some concrete suggestions the coming days..
    meanwhile you can give your own thoughts about the flaws in the syntagma
    But they are so nicely blue. And are not round. Think about it, not round pills ....

    Flaws in Syntagma ... And discuss about the ridding of the Curia in the Curia .... A bit incoherent thinking, grandpa

    There are only two simple solutions and I am able to discuss and agree with implementing any of them, no special preference for some of them:

    1. To contact Sulla, or the ON directly and let to remove Syntagma and the Curia defined in it directly by clicking on several buttons. But why to discuss this further in the Curia which you are prepared to wipe out ???

    2. Let it be as it is. The Syntagma is new and so let test it in reality for a while. I am not afraid that the staff is limited too much by it. If you have read it, in fact, the staf as a whole is not bound in the important things by anything in it at all. As said Justinian in other thread yesterday - "Technically".

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    How about you change this to adding one line to the Imperator's job description in the Syntagma:
    The Imperator may definitely or indefinitely suspend any provision of the Syntagma at will.
    Same effect, less ruckus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seleukos
    Ave sir!

    This is only quite unimportant discussion of the grandfather with one of his grandchildren.
    One have/already has not a reason and the other still has not/has the reason :wink: .

    Simple, isnt it? Talking publicly is not still a criminal act, I hope .

    On the other hand, me or grandpa will be innocent if somebody will catch after our great ideas and will implement them without our expert opinion . The results are not then granted .

    Bye and sorry for bothering your attention with such a small thing ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical
    How about you change this to adding one line to the Imperator's job description in the Syntagma:
    The Imperator may definitely or indefinitely suspend any provision of the Syntagma at will.
    Same effect, less ruckus.
    Ave Simetrical!

    Again altogether in one thread. And we will destruct the boundaries of the unable again :wink: .

    My suggestion for a small change of your proposition:

    "Only the physical person which is The Imperator (not acting Imperator/Consul or such improvisations) may definitely or indefinitely suspend any provision of the Syntagma at will. Only limiting condition for this act is a fact that the result of it is not allowed to be in a contrast with some statement of the Terms of Service defined by the ON."

    In Bold are my suggested changes

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    regarding staff nominations:

    Civitates are currently involved in ->
    The Second Consul is elected by the Civitates
    Quaestors will be directly elected by the Civitate members in the Curia
    When the need for a Prefect arises, the Imperator is expected to Open an opinion thread listing all the suitable candidates in the curia and take both the opinions of the Civitates and the opinions of his present staff into consideration. The imperator will then directly appoint a prefect taking into consideration the opinions of both staff and Civitates.

    let this be a matter for ON and existing staff only
    its better than some entries being vetoed during the process..


    Keep the patronizing system, and then well..
    I think Sin is right..

    practically I am proposing to get rid of many things..

    How about you change this to adding one line to the Imperator's job description in the Syntagma:
    The Imperator may definitely or indefinitely suspend any provision of the Syntagma at will.
    Same effect, less ruckus.
    dont agree with that one..
    better git rid of most procedures in the curia..
    rather than having another fancy line added to the syntagma. Which clearly doesnt change anything at all. Giving civitates the illusion that they have power, and letting them discuss a document that can be breached or suspended at any given time. If the civs want that kind of fun, then let them have it. I for one, again express that is really worth nothing. I know at least one person, who shares the shame thought about the importance of several aspects of the syntagma and the Curia in general.. :wink:

    1. To contact Sulla, or the ON directly and let to remove Syntagma and the Curia defined in it directly by clicking on several buttons. But why to discuss this further in the Curia which you are prepared to wipe out ???
    I cant speak for all civitates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical
    How about you change this to adding one line to the Imperator's job description in the Syntagma:
    The Imperator may definitely or indefinitely suspend any provision of the Syntagma at will.
    Same effect, less ruckus.
    Like a "Necessary and Proper" Clause. I like it. But he needs to be checked somehow.

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    Wouldn't deleting the Curia be must more easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MareNostrum
    better git rid of most procedures in the curia..
    rather than having another fancy line added to the syntagma. Which clearly doesnt change anything at all. Giving civitates the illusion that they have power, and letting them discuss a document that can be breached or suspended at any given time. If the civs want that kind of fun, then let them have it. I for one, again express that is really worth nothing. I know at least one person, who shares the shame thought about the importance of several aspects of the syntagma and the Curia in general.. :wink:
    Who is it? I want to know him immediately


    Quote Originally Posted by MareNostrum
    I cant speak for all civitates.
    You dont need to do it. The revolutions have never been and will never be done by discussing with common people ....
    What you need is only to acquire on your side:
    1. Mithras
    or
    2. the Trium (not Triumvirate): Sulla, Archer, Seleukos and they then will have to do the job with Mithras for you

    Simple. But time consuming I assume. Because it is also a change

    Grandpa, you are from the old school further. Civitates and their opinions ....
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    Yes it would actually..
    would anyone support that?

    * we could keep the patronizing element
    * staff entry in hands of ON and existing staff..

    now then you could say "whats the importance of the rank civitates then"

    * custom user title
    * cool red name
    * belonging to a house
    * can get promoted to patrician and start to patronize
    * symposium access
    * thats all..

    perhaps some of you might find this radical..

    Ostrakon, Amendments, Bills, things like this Any Civitate is able to present a Bill provided that his motion is supported by at least three other Civitates, including one Patrician, Magistrates or Senatorii Vechii. The proposal must first be posted in the Prothalamos for discussion, which does not require named support, for at least one week. If during this week the required support is obtained for a Bill, and all named supporters confirm they agree the Bill can be moved straight to a vote, then the proposer can request that the Syntagma Curator moves the Bill to a vote immediately.

    Should it instead be judged that more time is needed for debate on the subject, or that the debate is active, and moving the Bill would be premature, the progression to voting of the Bill may be delayed at the discretion of the Syntagma Curator until such time as it has remained in the Prothalamos for one month or a majority consensus appears to have been reached by debating parties, again, at the Magistrates discretion. At this time the Bill shall be moved to the Vote in its decided draft form. If the Syntagma Curator decides to delay the vote on a Bill beyond one month, then this decision is subject to staff ratification in the same way as a staff veto
    . bla bla bla bla.. are really redundant, imo


    Who is it? I want to know him immediately
    Well I cant say his name.. I would have done it yesterday. But today some things have changed.


    You dont need to do it. The revolutions have never been and will never be done by discussing with common people ....
    What you need is only to acquire on your side:
    1. Mithras
    or
    2. the Trium (not Triumvirate): Sulla, Archer, Seleukos and they then will have to do the job with Mithras for you
    well.. this is their chance..lol..
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    this is the most ridiculous proposal i've ever read...

    i don't deny that some of our procedures could be streamlined, but i see no reason to overturn over 2 years of curial history and democracy

    this is what helped make TWC unique and set it apart from other sites in the community and the web. this is the one site i know of where members have a say in what goes on, where members have a say in who moderates and who runs the site, and we all have a great deal of fun at the same time...

    any staff team who worked with the curia instead of fighting it every step of the way over provisions that overal make little difference to how the staff actually runs the site would have no problem with the curia, and indeed previous staff teams have existed alongside quite content.

    if the staff want to take the step of deleting the curia. that is, in the end, their prerogative. and its their community that they are destroying in the process

    if this amendment were even seriously considered, the staff may as well do so, for it would remove all point and purpose from the curia. they should also abolish the entire civitates system, for that too would have had its entire meaning destroyed in the enactment.

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    werent you the one complaining recently about breaches of the Syntagma? complaining about the lack of "Senior Staffs literacy regarding the Syntagma" Perhaps I am mistaken...or the issue might have been solved already
    if so my apologies..


    this is what helped make TWC unique and set it apart from other sites in the community and the web. this is the one site i know of where members have a say in what goes on, where members have a say in who moderates and who runs the site, and we all have a great deal of fun at the same time...
    yes, we have a say..
    but entries can be vetoed, the syntagma can be breached or suspended at any given time.. etc etc.. you are saying yes to "something" that clearly is accepted by ON and senior staff.. you would not be able to say "yes" if ON or senior staff would disagree. When its convenient, then the syntagma will get disregarded.

    don't deny that some of our procedures could be streamlined
    any examples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Black Prince
    this is the most ridiculous proposal i've ever read...

    i don't deny that some of our procedures could be streamlined, but i see no reason to overturn over 2 years of curial history and democracy

    this is what helped make TWC unique and set it apart from other sites in the community and the web. this is the one site i know of where members have a say in what goes on, where members have a say in who moderates and who runs the site, and we all have a great deal of fun at the same time...

    any staff team who worked with the curia instead of fighting it every step of the way over provisions that overal make little difference to how the staff actually runs the site would have no problem with the curia, and indeed previous staff teams have existed alongside quite content.

    if the staff want to take the step of deleting the curia. that is, in the end, their prerogative. and its their community that they are destroying in the process

    if this amendment were even seriously considered, the staff may as well do so, for it would remove all point and purpose from the curia. they should also abolish the entire civitates system, for that too would have had its entire meaning destroyed in the enactment.
    Ave the Black Prince!

    It is about thinking in extremes from my side.
    I have an experience that old people should let to talk out, so I am giving to the grandpa a chance ..... :wink:

    As you know probably from my other posts, my leading idea in TWC politics is to let build up the system with strong Imperial elements in the highest and medium levels of hierarchy and some system of freedoms and granted common justice for all members in the lower levels.

    To can force it independently from the position of common member I have decided to wait with my selection in the staff to promote me on Civitate more than one month. This way was blind and uneffective.

    After this method has become dead I have been promoted to a Civitate and then tried discuss this things in several threads in the Curia. And when I am now seeing that the whole idea of the Curia is also blind way and for me almost dead as for the possiblity to through my basic above-described ideas, I really dont feel some need to defend in any way an idea of the Curia and the whole Syntagma. For me is from written rules the ToS sufficient enough.
    It is simple. When is somebody so certain with your position to the extent that he stops to listen to me, then I dont care of him and his problems too.

    Some ideas in this thread are not bad or harmful for me (and when you will be elected to some position in the staff for you personally too), but a part of common civitates will be certainly very disppointed, if/when they will be implemented.

    But it is only a disussion .
    I think that the Simetricals proposition with my changes is not bad for anybody:
    1. the staff will saturate a need for solving the fear from the threaten, which has been created in them by new Syntagma in action,
    2. the Imperator will be imperator and not a Triumvir, and
    3. when the Imperator will be bound by the ToS in his actions and decisions I will be fully satisfied

    A still more radical variant could be optimal for me.
    We can abandon the whole Syntagma and Civitatship ranks and from this will be created sufficient ground for me to acquire a great group of unsatisfied people to let influence the staff sufficiently for becoming avoid the idea of non-respecting rules (the ToS) almost 100%. There can be always a possiblity to create such an demand for "rolling heads" that some of the less careful members from the staff could be dismissed by all-mighty Imperator to calm masses and I will have again my pool of able Senatorii which will be eventually willing to be part of my proposed judicial body (the Council as I have described it to you already) to let themselves at least some part of their past power.

    On the other hand, I have still a chance to choose a way across the functional Curia, but in this case there must be some of the influencial people like you to be willing to do something for it and not only sadly cry like oyu in your above post (you had to be really excited when you have started to talk about democracy ).

    So go go grandpa , we are continuing to do a "history" of TWC

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    Quote Originally Posted by therussian
    Like a "Necessary and Proper" Clause. I like it. But he needs to be checked somehow.
    Well, the entire point of Mare's proposal is that the upper staff isn't checked. I would personally oppose such a drastic measure as he suggests, incidentally.
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