The Origin of Sexual Preference
I was wondering what was the origin of the different types of sexual acts one can commit. I mean, the normal is regular sex, then we got anal sex, and the whole oral thing.... And I mean, would our primitive ancestors would have done anal sex or/and oral sex? And if they did not do such acts, then where did they originated from? I mean, if I would have not heard about anal sex and oral sex, I would have probably never thought them possible...
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Animals aren't as picky about their sexual activities as people. My dog will hump teddy bears and rolled-up blankets for Bob's sake. Male dogs often try to hump other male dogs. You have a natural instinct to seek out sexual pleasure, and that instinct is nowhere near as narrow as your society's recommendations.Originally Posted by Jesus The Inane
Rather than asking why unconventional sex acts occur, you'd be better served asking why so many societies shun them.
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But I was wondering where did the fashions of anal sex and oral sex originated from, were they just individual ideas that eventually everybody heard about and started practicing, and if so, can we tell a time period in human history where such acts started taking place?
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i'm guessing it dates from pre-history. bear in mind that humans were once fairly animalistic, it can probably be predicted that the males had the same powerful sex drive, minus any social boundaries telling them what they can and cannot do with it. its probably fair to say they did it with anything they could to see what it was like, and it went from there.
the fact that things like homosexuality are recorded among our most ancient civilisations suggests that all manner of sexual practices had been established from the dawn of human existance.
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I'd say they're self-evident. To put it bluntly, it doesn't take a genius to know that if it feels good to stick your penis into a warm hole, then there might be more than one kind of warm hole that will do.
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We definitely have anal and oral sex dating back to at least 1000 BCE, probably earlier. As for the idea of it, consider :wub:: I think a heck of a lot of people discovered that all by themselves. It's not a difficult concept. Our sex urges are pretty nonspecific.
I don't know, I mean, your explanations for the origin of anal sex are good, but I don't think that it is the same story with oral sex. I just don't think that our primitive ancestors could have manage to convince their wifes to give them oral... but who knows?
I wonder if there are examples of oral sex in the rest of the animal kingdom, perhaps monkeys do it?
And to add more color to this thread, may I ask what are your thoughts regarding the direction of sexual practices in the future? Has sexual practices reach their limit of diversity, or will new technology bring new sexual practices?
Perhaps our future generations will be more inclined into the swingers thing?
And another thought; how much influence has pornography has had on societies views on sex? And how much influence will it have on the direction of sexual practices? I think such notions as "rough sex" and "rough oral" have been and will be more popularize into our future generations thanks to pornography.
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My dog performs it on himself. It's . . . disgusting.
Here's my guess: if a girl wasn't a virgin, she was considered worthless to marry. Thus the rise of oral sex as a substitute which wouldn't cost them their virginity.
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Our primitive ancestors probably asked a bit more forcefully than we do today. In 2000 AD, it sounds like this: "Honey, do you think you might be willing to ..." whereas in 1000 BC, it was probably something more like "Get over here, woman!"
As Justy said, dogs do it to themselves. My dog does it all the time.I wonder if there are examples of oral sex in the rest of the animal kingdom, perhaps monkeys do it?
Certain hard-wired instincts like jealousy will probably prevent or at least limit the kind of rampant promiscuity that scaremongers are always warning us about, regardless of shifting social mores. However, I would say that we will see more exotic sexual practices within existing common relationship types (single couples or married couples). For example, we'll probably see more widespread use of anal sex, the use of toys, etc. There does appear to be an increase in the prevalence of anal sex, the use of toys, and the use of porn by couples (as opposed to single raincoat-wearing men) already in universities based on some surveys I've heard, so this is kind of a no-brainer IMO.And to add more color to this thread, may I ask what are your thoughts regarding the direction of sexual practices in the future? Has sexual practices reach their limit of diversity, or will new technology bring new sexual practices?
As I said, the instinctive tendency toward jealousy will probably limit changes in that direction. Even during the "swinging 60s" it was really only a very small minority of the population which actually did that.Perhaps our future generations will be more inclined into the swingers thing?
I actually don't think so; activities which are painful or otherwise very unpleasant will be resisted for that obvious reason, no matter how prevalent they become in certain types of porn. Porn can give you ideas, but if those ideas are going to lead to pain or extreme discomfort (such as choking), it's not likely that you will actually employ them. Case in point: so-called "deep throating" has been in porn for more then 30 years already, but its actual incidence in society is still extremely rare.And another thought; how much influence has pornography has had on societies views on sex? And how much influence will it have on the direction of sexual practices? I think such notions as "rough sex" and "rough oral" have been and will be more popularize into our future generations thanks to pornography.
BTW, I make a point of noting that it's only certain types of porn which portray that kind of behaviour because a lot of people often tend to assume that all porn has monolithic characteristics and this is not the case. There is a genre of porn which is directed at the so-called "raincoat crowd", and that tends to be rather misogynistic, but quite frankly, the he-man woman-hater crowd has always existed, and there is no real evidence that it has gotten bigger, with or without porn. There is a "chicken and egg" dilemma when talking about woman-haters and abusive porn; anti-porn crusaders will say that the porn made them that way, while porn defenders will say that the porn was made to suit their already-existing tastes. It's sort of like the ongoing debate about criminals and violent videogames or movies.
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I'm sure we'll see robot/human sex (with the robot being either directly controlled or not) within our lifetimes, and probably virtual-reality sex (with stimuli being wired directly to the central nervous system) as well.
It's interesting to note that to a greater or lesser degree, every known society has some concept of marriage or otherwise enduring relationships. Even now, when we're tending ever more toward divorce and premarital sex, I'm pretty sure that the large majority of sex occurs within basically monogamous relationships, even if maybe ones lasting months or a few years instead of a lifetime. I don't think we're ever going to be 100% sexually open.
I would be skeptical that pornography has had major effects on our sexual habits, but it might have.
My dog performs it on himself. It's . . . disgusting.That is not oral sex... the dog is not even having an erection... the dog is only cleaning himself up, just how he licks his feet... Now if a female dog would be licking the penis of a dog... now that would be a different thing.As Justy said, dogs do it to themselves. My dog does it all the time.
This doesn't work with oral sex because there is a big chance of getting biten. Specially if you were forcing a savage women.Our primitive ancestors probably asked a bit more forcefully than we do today. In 2000 AD, it sounds like this: "Honey, do you think you might be willing to ..." whereas in 1000 BC, it was probably something more like "Get over here, woman!"
Or maybe not. The people who practice rough sex get pleasure out of it, I think its just a matter of getting use to it, the thing is that most people will not try it. Perhaps porno will have some influence on people's views on rough sex, and perhaps rough sex will become the next cool thing...I actually don't think so; activities which are painful or otherwise very unpleasant will be resisted for that obvious reason, no matter how prevalent they become in certain types of porn. Porn can give you ideas, but if those ideas are going to lead to pain or extreme discomfort (such as choking), it's not likely that you will actually employ them. Case in point: so-called "deep throating" has been in porn for more then 30 years already, but its actual incidence in society is still extremely rare.
In my opinion, pornography does influence society because it gets into pop culture, in one form or the other, and gives ideas to young people who will then put them into practice.
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Actually, the dog can indeed get an erection that way. I guess you haven't seen enough dogs doing this.
I hope you're aware that men force other men to perform oral sex on them in prison all the time. The chance of getting bitten is forestalled by the certainty of the biter being killed or beaten to a bloody pulp in retaliation.This doesn't work with oral sex because there is a big chance of getting biten. Specially if you were forcing a savage women.
I guess you've never heard of the Marquis de Sade. Rough sex predates pornography by a long time.Or maybe not. The people who practice rough sex get pleasure out of it, I think its just a matter of getting use to it, the thing is that most people will not try it. Perhaps porno will have some influence on people's views on rough sex, and perhaps rough sex will become the next cool thing...
And where do the pornographers get their ideas from? As I said, you're talking about a chicken and egg dilemma.In my opinion, pornography does influence society because it gets into pop culture, in one form or the other, and gives ideas to young people who will then put them into practice.
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{quote]Actually, the dog can indeed get an erection that way. I guess you haven't seen enough dogs doing this.[/quote]
Perhaps it is because I always tell my dog to stop and he stops... But let me ask you this; was the dog doing it to himself or was it a female dog doing it to a male dog?
hmmmm, but if I am such a victim, and I bite, then in that moment that my tormentor is in pain I might just have a good chance at killing him, no? And it must be a very desperate individual doing such a thing, since I for my part would not risk getting my penis biten, you know? Its, perhaps, a two way street, no?I hope you're aware that men force other men to perform oral sex on them in prison all the time. The chance of getting bitten is forestalled by the certainty of the biter being killed or beaten to a bloody pulp in retaliation.
From individual ideas from individuals. Then the new cool sexual practice gets pass on to other people through porn. Without porn then the idea wouldn't increase...And where do the pornographers get their ideas from? As I said, you're talking about a chicken and egg dilemma.
Facinating person that Marquis. At any rate, I think rough pornographic videos might become more popular as they show rough sex in a "good light." Something which the books of Marquis probably didn't (?)....I guess you've never heard of the Marquis de Sade. Rough sex predates pornography by a long time.
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I could link you with a few sites that prove this but its against forum rulesIt doesn't really make a difference, it shows that animals can indeed get pleasure from oral sex, and know it consciously. Thus it's natural.
PS and not just from other dogs.
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ok, that is probably one of the funniest things I have ever read
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Also one of the most true. Its pretty much the same for us all . Did you need instructions to know how to enjoy yourself sexually or did you experiment to find out what you liked best?Originally Posted by Darth Wong
To put it bluntly, it doesn't take a genius to know that if it feels good to stick your penis into a warm hole, then there might be more than one kind of warm hole that will do.
ok, that is probably one of the funniest things I have ever read
Going back to the dog giving themselves oral plearure. This question has been asked millions of times but I wonder how many here would do they same if they could?
I have nothing against the womens movement. Especially when Im walking behind it.
No thank you! I just can't imagine doing that, other means are adequate enough. :wink:Also one of the most true. Its pretty much the same for us all . Did you need instructions to know how to enjoy yourself sexually or did you experiment to find out what you liked best?
Going back to the dog giving themselves oral plearure. This question has been asked millions of times but I wonder how many here would do they same if they could?
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I could, actually. I must have a freakishly flexible spine. At the time I didn't realise how wonderful my gift was, and by the time I did I had grown too tall.Going back to the dog giving themselves oral plearure. This question has been asked millions of times but I wonder how many here would do they same if they could?I think everyone here, shame aside, would. We are humans.
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I ran into an old guy once who had a saying about women, menstrual cycles, and anal sex:
"When the red river's rising, you take the dirt road."
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