[DISCUSSION] New Map and Other Things

[Stuntdawg5]

We can't do it sooner. I would be in favor for rushing it, but I think others must discuss it.

Yeah, we can't do it sooner anyways. We have to look at hMod to make sure we can work it. I honestly need to look at it for awhile to try on figure out how to even run it. I'm hoping some of you can help me out if we end up using it. I think I have a basic plan on how to proceed once we decide

Here's a few points we need to cover:

1. Should TNT be allowed (Through spawning, since there is no other way to get it)
2. Should tools be spawnable?
3. Should any other items that can't be obtained be allowed?

My opinion on these are that TNT should not be allowed (Too tempting for griefers and others *cough* you know who you are *cough*. And it isn't all that needed. Everything can be done without TNT. I also feel tools should be made, not spawned. I think everything should be made. Make the game challenging and entertaining (This would make it so people would have to be careful with their resources). I also don't think there is any other item that requires us to allow spawning. I think that no spawning once so ever is a good policy.

The only item that I think maybe should be allowed is TNT. But that's up to you guys.

[Visorslash]

Is it possible to have multiple servers? I.E. One for PVP and one for building?

[Tuor]

Is it possible to have multiple servers? I.E. One for PVP and one for building?

Lol, not on Stunt's comp. It would have to be hosted by another person and that would just get plain confusing on the forums.

[Stuntdawg5]

Lol, not on Stunt's comp. It would have to be hosted by another person and that would just get plain confusing on the forums.

I wish it were possible, but I don't see anyone else willing to sacrifice their computer to a server. By running a server you pretty much have to give up your computer for anything other than the server and going on the internet (and playing Minecraft). Playing normal computer games is just too laggy.

[Danny_K_1]

I'll have to say no to every suggestion up their Stunt, spawning would have to be completely disabled for this to work.

[Stuntdawg5]

I'll have to say no to every suggestion up their Stunt, spawning would have to be completely disabled for this to work.

That is exactly what I am thinking Danny. It just wouldn't work otherwise.

[Selukon]

Yeah, we can't do it sooner anyways. We have to look at hMod to make sure we can work it. I honestly need to look at it for awhile to try on figure out how to even run it. I'm hoping some of you can help me out if we end up using it. I think I have a basic plan on how to proceed once we decide

Here's a few points we need to cover:

1. Should TNT be allowed (Through spawning, since there is no other way to get it)
2. Should tools be spawnable?
3. Should any other items that can't be obtained be allowed?

My opinion on these are that TNT should not be allowed (Too tempting for griefers and others *cough* you know who you are *cough*. And it isn't all that needed. Everything can be done without TNT. I also feel tools should be made, not spawned. I think everything should be made. Make the game challenging and entertaining (This would make it so people would have to be careful with their resources). I also don't think there is any other item that requires us to allow spawning. I think that no spawning once so ever is a good policy.

The only item that I think maybe should be allowed is TNT. But that's up to you guys.

What I think is: Gunpowder/string/leaves/etc should be spawnable, but not tnt itself. Possibly spawnable tools as well, not sure about that

[Visorslash]

If this goes through, String and leaves should be spawnable.

[Danny_K_1]

Leaves?

[Selukon]

Yes, leaves. look at data values on minepedia, they are spawnable, but not obtainable in any other way

[Danny_K_1]

What like that stuff that grows on trees? I have never seen it used as a material in our server. Why would you even want it?

[Selukon]

If somebody wants to make a big tree?

[Danny_K_1]

Tough tits in that case as its all or nothing.

[Doyle141]

Tough tits in that case as its all or nothing.

So someone did say tits. I thought I was hearing/seeing things.

[Tuor]

Tough tits in that case as its all or nothing.

Oh, how I love that phrase. He does have a point, though. If we're going to enforce no spawning, we might as well make our SMP server as close to single player as possible. None of this spawning leaves bs.

[Dewy]

I have been saying this for ages. Although I would like tnt spawnable (a must) and maybe diamond tools (not swords). Have we thought about getting an actual server? I don't mind putting money towards it.

What like that stuff that grows on trees? I have never seen it used as a material in our server. Why would you even want it?

I use leaves.

[IZob]

Hedge's, fake trees, a bush, ect.

[Makrell]

Yeah, we can't do it sooner anyways. We have to look at hMod to make sure we can work it. I honestly need to look at it for awhile to try on figure out how to even run it. I'm hoping some of you can help me out if we end up using it. I think I have a basic plan on how to proceed once we decide

Here's a few points we need to cover:

1. Should TNT be allowed (Through spawning, since there is no other way to get it)
2. Should tools be spawnable?
3. Should any other items that can't be obtained be allowed?

My opinion on these are that TNT should not be allowed (Too tempting for griefers and others *cough* you know who you are *cough*. And it isn't all that needed. Everything can be done without TNT. I also feel tools should be made, not spawned. I think everything should be made. Make the game challenging and entertaining (This would make it so people would have to be careful with their resources). I also don't think there is any other item that requires us to allow spawning. I think that no spawning once so ever is a good policy.

The only item that I think maybe should be allowed is TNT. But that's up to you guys.

I dont think anything should be spawnable. Diamond tools opposed to wooden tools are not that effective. And people can mine instead of just tnting, and work for their caves instead of ust blowing them out
I like new map idea though

[Visorslash]

Problem with this is, is that there are people who DON'T play PVP here and kicking them out because they don't play PVP wouldn't be right.

[Theseus1234]

Problem with this is, is that there are people who DON'T play PVP here and kicking them out because they don't play PVP wouldn't be right.

This. I have no intention of getting involved in the cluster- that is PvP atm. I would much rather embark on personal and/or group projects. As a side note, my current project would not be possible without TNT and I think TNT should be spawnable to some degree.

The only viable long term solution would be to have two servers, one PvP and one not.