Unattackable structures? allowed?

**Makrell** · January 03, 2011, 04:05 PM

Should there be allowed to make structures within pvp which are unreachable, and still being used by the defendant. Like making a unreachablke one block tower, and stand and fire from it. The attackers can then do nothing, and must just watch. Or should there be added a rule which states that:
-No structures built by a pvper may be unreachablke by attackers, if the defendant intends to use said structures.
- If there is no way to reach the defenders, the attackers have won a victory.
-no change
Will open this for discussion for a day and start a poll tomorrow

**Aanker** · January 03, 2011, 04:08 PM

I'd propose this, in order to avoid interpretable situations where griefing may be allowed:

- If there is no way to reach the defenders, the attackers have won a victory.

Because, in all honesty, the sole purpose of the attack is to gain a victory, and if that goal is achieved simply by having the defenders lock themselves up in a 5x5x5 cobblestone house, the attackers may enjoy the only spoils of war that there currently are on the server - victory and glory.

**Katsumoto** · January 03, 2011, 04:08 PM

I think if a structure is made mid-battle the opponents should be allowed to destroy it. Also, one block towers which dudes fire from are also completely unfair.

EDIT: Or what Aanker said.

**crossjon** · January 03, 2011, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Makrell

Should there be allowed to make structures within pvp which are unreachable, and still being used by the defendant. Like making a unreachablke one block tower, and stand and fire from it. The attackers can then do nothing, and must just watch. Or should there be added a rule which states that:
No structures built by a pvper may be unreachablke by attackers, if the defendant intends to use said structures.
Will open this for discussion for a day and start a poll tomorrow

you can always use ladders, that's allowed.

**Makrell** · January 03, 2011, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Aanker

I'd propose this, in order to avoid interpretable situations where griefing may be allowed:

- If there is no way to reach the defenders, the attackers have won a victory.

Because, in all honesty, the sole purpose of the attack is to gain a victory, and if that goal is achieved simply by having the defenders lock themselves up in a 5x5x5 cobblestone house, the attackers may enjoy the only spoils of war that there currently are on the server - victory and glory.

That could be ok, then we for sure won todays victory

as croossjon was in an unreachable structure

Will add this to poll options

Originally Posted by crossjon

you can always use ladders, that's allowed.

Is it, when did we vote in that

**crossjon** · January 03, 2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Makrell

That could be ok, then we for sure won todays victory

as croossjon was in an unreachable structure

Will add this to poll options

because the stupid lava wouldn't stop, i stopped it like 5 mins before I logged of, trying to attack you. and

Stop relying on technicalities to avoid punishment, and to punish your enemies.

**'Gunny** · January 03, 2011, 04:11 PM

no its not, but if you are referring to my tower, there is an entrance, several of them, they are just hidden, like any god entrance to a large fort

**crossjon** · January 03, 2011, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Makrell

Is it, when did we vote in that

it's technicaly a form of griefing, but we let you use it today, so we should've won today if we followed the rules.

**nhytgbvfeco2** · January 03, 2011, 04:13 PM

-nvm-

**Makrell** · January 03, 2011, 04:14 PM

because the stupid lava wouldn't stop, i stopped it like 5 mins before I logged of, trying to attack you. and Quote:
Stop relying on technicalities to avoid punishment, and to punish your enemies.
Wait what i dont understand anything?

**crossjon** · January 03, 2011, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Makrell

because the stupid lava wouldn't stop, i stopped it like 5 mins before I logged of, trying to attack you. and Quote:
Stop relying on technicalities to avoid punishment, and to punish your enemies.
Wait what i dont understand anything?

sorry about the bad grammar, what i was trying to say was: because the stupid lava wouldn't stop. I stopped it like 5 mins before I logged off, but it wouldn't stop. I was trying to go attack you with my sword, because that does more damage.

**Aanker** · January 03, 2011, 04:30 PM

If you don't mind, I think that we should take this to poll before people's feelings deteriorate further.

Furthermore, I am sorry (and apologize) for any comments that I left in the Minecraft chat that could have been interpreted as aggressive. It was not my intent, but I was captured by a zeal and the excitement of battle.

**nhytgbvfeco2** · January 03, 2011, 04:31 PM

sure,i thought you were joking most of the time aanker

**Makrell** · January 04, 2011, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by crossjon

sorry about the bad grammar, what i was trying to say was: because the stupid lava wouldn't stop. I stopped it like 5 mins before I logged off, but it wouldn't stop. I was trying to go attack you with my sword, because that does more damage.

I see, but it was stopped when i reached the top after nhy killed you, it was however stopped in a way that was blocking the stairs

So the balcony still lakced access

**Lord Romanus III** · January 04, 2011, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Aanker

I'd propose this, in order to avoid interpretable situations where griefing may be allowed:

- If there is no way to reach the defenders, the attackers have won a victory.

Because, in all honesty, the sole purpose of the attack is to gain a victory, and if that goal is achieved simply by having the defenders lock themselves up in a 5x5x5 cobblestone house, the attackers may enjoy the only spoils of war that there currently are on the server - victory and glory.

I seek glory and loot.