EBD and factions Region control decission

[Kylan271]

I got the merc building list from vs 85 and new one here,have to work out unit recruit levels. The latin names has me slowed down,so my only problem identifying units. Fixed by end of this sunday,the mercs. I will list text updates here for you guys to check?

[Echbart]

Great my update will be done hopefully today. I learn a lot about indepth text modding and its great.

[Hister]

That's superb mates! Ah, I forgot to tell you - you can inport stuff from PI II into this mod! Like text, strat models,..., you name it - as long as it can work in rtw engine it can be inported.

[Kylan271]

Oh gewd I forgot about that version,lol...^_* . Yahhh must finish mercs first...

[Daminios]

Great to see you all working at a really brisk pace !
nice

[Kylan271]

Hister,I just got back from country so unable to access my data.

I need some clarification on Mercs.

I am working on Merc buildings-missiles,but I didn't notice before many 'mercs' used for them have no 'merc' trait as in EDU. The merc list is here:

Mercs PI

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Mercenarii Gaesatae
Hastati Latini
Principes Latini
Triarii Latini
Equites Latini
Ferentarii Volsci
Pedites Volsci
Equites Volsci
Ferentarii Aurunci
Pedites Aurunci
Ferentarii Corsi
Ensiferi Sardi
Sagittarii Sardi

This is the PI vs 85 missile

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PI 85.

building missiles
{
levels practice_field archery_range catapult_range siege_engineer
{
practice_field requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, }
{
capability
{
; GRAECI (mainland)
; "Greek Cities" only mercs
recruit "Ekdromoi Hoplitai Lakedaimonioi" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Tarentum
recruit "Hoplitai Lakedaimonioi" 2 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Tarentum
recruit "Hoplitai Spartiatai" 3 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Tarentum
recruit "Phalangitai Makedonikoi" 2 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
; GRAECI (hellenic aux troops) ;; added /DV
recruit "Tarantinoi" 2 requires factions { berbers, goths, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Graeci or hidden_resource Croton or hidden_resource Elea or hidden_resource Heraclea or hidden_resource Locrii or hidden_resource Metapontum or hidden_resource Rhegium or hidden_resource Thurii or hidden_resource Tarentum or hidden_resource Syracusae
recruit "Peltastai Akontistai Hellenes" 0 requires factions { berbers, goths, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Graeci or hidden_resource Croton or hidden_resource Elea or hidden_resource Heraclea or hidden_resource Locrii or hidden_resource Metapontum or hidden_resource Rhegium or hidden_resource Thurii or hidden_resource Tarentum or hidden_resource Syracusae
recruit "Ekdromoi Hoplitai Hellenes" 1 requires factions { berbers, goths, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Graeci or hidden_resource Croton or hidden_resource Elea or hidden_resource Heraclea or hidden_resource Locrii or hidden_resource Metapontum or hidden_resource Rhegium or hidden_resource Thurii or hidden_resource Tarentum or hidden_resource Syracusae
recruit "Hoplitai Hellenes" 2 requires factions { berbers, goths, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Graeci or hidden_resource Croton or hidden_resource Elea or hidden_resource Heraclea or hidden_resource Locrii or hidden_resource Metapontum or hidden_resource Rhegium or hidden_resource Thurii or hidden_resource Tarentum or hidden_resource Syracusae
; ILLYRI
recruit "Pedites Parthini" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
recruit "Ensiferi Delmatae" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
recruit "Equites Delmatae" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
; GENERIC OVERSEA MERCENARIES
; Poeni only mercs
recruit "Clipeati Libyphoenices" 2 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Ferentarii Lybes" 1 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Equites Numides" 3 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Sagittarii Mauri" 1 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Scutarii Celtiberi" 2 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Caetrati Iberi" 1 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Funditores Baleares" 2 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
; Poeni and Syracuse mercs
recruit "Mercenarii Tyrrheni" 1 requires factions { berbers, goths, slave, } and port
recruit "Mercenarii Campani" 2 requires factions { berbers, goths, slave, } and port
recruit "Mercenarii Ligures" 1 requires factions { berbers, goths, slave, } and port
; Syracuse only mercs
recruit "Keltoi" 2 requires factions { goths, slave, } and port
; Greeks only mercs
recruit "Toxotai Kretaioi" 2 requires factions { goths, romano_british, slave, } and port
recruit "Sphendonetai Rhodioi" 2 requires factions { goths, romano_british, slave, } and port

trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1 ; "weapon trade increased"

}
construction 4
cost 2400
settlement_min large_town
upgrades
{
archery_range
}
}
archery_range requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
{
capability
{
weapon_missile bonus 2
}
construction 4
cost 4800
settlement_min city
upgrades
{
catapult_range
}
}
catapult_range requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
{
capability
{
weapon_missile bonus 2
}
construction 6
cost 4800
settlement_min large_city
upgrades
{
siege_engineer
}
}
siege_engineer requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
{
capability
{
weapon_missile bonus 2
}
construction 7
cost 9600
settlement_min huge_city
upgrades
{

I need to do this:

- Give Poeni, Italioate and Syracusae 3 tiers of mercenary camps that need higher tier barracks as a prerequisite – the goal is to simulate training of those mercenaries via the barracks as is stated in the barracks descriptions.

This is new PI missile

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;; re-functioned to merc camp /Hister
;; added some faction hints for the current merc setting, moved the one Galli merc to gov buildings, removed barb from building string, added exp to units, changed bonus and base conditions /DV
;; what's with the NO_BUILDING units, can't we find a hidden resource for them to have them active as recruitment? Else, those lines make no sense /DV

building missiles
{
levels practice_field archery_range catapult_range siege_engineer
{
practice_field requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, }
{
capability
{
; GRAECI (mainland)
; "Greek Cities" only mercs
recruit "Ekdromoi Hoplitai Lakedaimonioi" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Tarentum
recruit "Hoplitai Lakedaimonioi" 2 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Tarentum
recruit "Hoplitai Spartiatai" 3 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Tarentum
recruit "Phalangitai Makedonikoi" 2 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
; GRAECI (hellenic aux troops) ;; added /DV
recruit "Tarantinoi" 2 requires factions { berbers, goths, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Graeci or hidden_resource Croton or hidden_resource Elea or hidden_resource Heraclea or hidden_resource Locrii or hidden_resource Metapontum or hidden_resource Rhegium or hidden_resource Thurii or hidden_resource Tarentum or hidden_resource Syracusae
recruit "Hoplitai Hellenes" 2 requires factions { berbers, goths, romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource Graeci or hidden_resource Croton or hidden_resource Elea or hidden_resource Heraclea or hidden_resource Locrii or hidden_resource Metapontum or hidden_resource Rhegium or hidden_resource Thurii or hidden_resource Tarentum or hidden_resource Syracusae
; ILLYRI
recruit "Pedites Parthini" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
recruit "Ensiferi Delmatae" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
recruit "Equites Delmatae" 1 requires factions { romano_british, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
; GENERIC OVERSEA MERCENARIES
; Poeni only mercs
recruit "Clipeati Libyphoenices" 2 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Ferentarii Lybes" 1 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Equites Numides" 3 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Sagittarii Mauri" 1 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Scutarii Celtiberi" 2 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Caetrati Iberi" 1 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
recruit "Funditores Baleares" 2 requires factions { berbers, slave, } and port
; Poeni and Syracuse mercs
recruit "Mercenarii Tyrrheni" 1 requires factions { berbers, goths, slave, } and port
recruit "Mercenarii Campani" 2 requires factions { berbers, goths, slave, } and port
recruit "Mercenarii Ligures" 1 requires factions { berbers, goths, slave, } and port
; Syracuse only mercs
recruit "Keltoi" 2 requires factions { goths, slave, } and port
; Greeks only mercs
recruit "Toxotai Kretaioi" 2 requires factions { goths, romano_british, slave, } and port
recruit "Sphendonetai Rhodioi" 2 requires factions { goths, romano_british, slave, } and port

trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1 ; "weapon trade increased"

}
construction 5
cost 3000
settlement_min large_town
upgrades
{
archery_range
}
}
archery_range requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
{
capability
{
weapon_missile bonus 2
}
construction 5
cost 6000
settlement_min city
upgrades
{
catapult_range
}
}
catapult_range requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
{
capability
{
weapon_missile bonus 2
}
construction 7
cost 6000
settlement_min large_city
upgrades
{
siege_engineer
}
}
siege_engineer requires factions { romano_british, berbers, goths, slave, } and hidden_resource NO_BUILDING
{
capability
{
weapon_missile bonus 2
}
construction 8
cost 12000
settlement_min huge_city
upgrades
{
}
}
}
plugins

The question is what is a 'merc' for PI purposes now that I have learnt several have no 'merc' attribute???

Sorry if I am confused,can you direct me and I will do the text work as quickly as possible to submit to Echbart.

[Echbart]

As i see it mercs in PI arent usual mercenaries in RTW. For units that suposed to be mercs are recruited in missile camps aviable only to greek and poeni factions. My guess is that you only need to made barracks prerequisite for higher missile camps ( merc camps ) and give more experience ( two per level ) to existing units each level up.

Good to see you back

[Kylan271]

Ok,so what is the point of merc trait,unless the term we should use I guess is AOR units? However the 'mercenarii' types used have no 'merc' trait which I think is confusing,except the Mercenarii Gaesatae??? If we use the 'mercenarii' title shall they not all be with merc trait in EDU? So we have AOR type units and Mercs then.

[Hister]

Sorry guys, been off the forum for a while.

The merc string is used for a special trick that gets rid of the ghost units that appeared beforehand. Do not mix it with anything related to real mercenaries.

Kylan, apply Echbarts suggestion and it will work as designed

[Kylan271]

I had confusion with units being Eastern culture and I was trying to find Goths,thinking Barbarian. My PI sm_factions text was missing,files missing when I copied. Just discovered,now I should be OK. Not my day.

I tried to use the new PI,but only gives vanilla RTW via PI shortcut.

[Hister]

I tried to use the new PI,but only gives vanilla RTW via PI shortcut.

Hm, I don't follow you. Which PI do you mean? PI II for M2TW Kingdoms (you need it to be patched to 1.5) or PI 0.95 for RTW?