Ban TNT use in war [discussion].

[IZob]

Edit: Sorry I've just about had it with my crap browser (it keeps stuffing up).

I created this post to disscuss banning TNT from being used in war (this includes cannons). For obvious reasons, it causes my problems then it dose solutions.

Either accidental or deliberate TNT is beening used against property and surroundings within a owners land. Destroying person property is against the rules. But for some, it seem's both sides think its legal to use TNT for defending and/or offensive purposes. In the end, it is the defender of the land that is left over with the damage of TNT in the war. We should not hand over the damage to them even if it is all of their own doing, since both sides of the conflict are responsible to TNT being used.

[Tuor]

I think it should be banned in war for any use other than loading and firing a cannon because:

1: It makes the server lag and I kept getting disconnected during a battle.
2: It has the potential to cause accidental OR intentional griefing, more so than what just right-clicking would cause.

I realize that cannons can be used for griefing too, but they're a little easier to disable, as Notch hasn't implemented wheels yet. You can't turn them either. Plus, cannons are just badass!!!!11!!!11!one

[IZob]

Cannons are 'cool' but massive blast marks in the ground are not cool. Let me put it this way, whats stopping you from making your own cannon to attack the defenders cannon? This makes it 1 cannon for each side.

[Tuor]

whats stopping you from making your own cannon to attack the defenders cannon?

The defending cannon. I can see why you want them banned, though. TNT makes everything ugly and causes general unhappiness all around.

[Lord Romanus III]

I like cannons and say that they make sieges cool.

[Akar]

I like cannons and say that they make sieges cool.

[Aanker]

I think it all comes down to the fact that the players themselves must make the judgement: if there is any chance of TNT causing damage (for instance with the use of cannons), then it shouldn't be used. The defenders (owners) can always employ TNT in any fashion on their own land, and will take full responsibility for the damage they inflict on their own structures.

[Makrell]

I want tnt ban

[removeduser_487563287433]

A total TNT ban is not acceptable, because it is unenforceable. Anybody can craft TNT (once we have monsters) and it is very useful for constructing and mining. But a ban in war would be fine.

[Dewy]

Why can't I use tnt on my own land? If I destroy something who cares it's mine.

[Manco]

Yeah, I need TNT for my landscaping. But this thread is about TNT in a war anyway.

[Dewy]

Why can't I use tnt in war for defensive purposes? It is my land after all.

[Makrell]

Of course you should be able tpo use tnt in construction. This has nothing to do with that

[Dewy]

Of course you should be able tpo use tnt in construction. This has nothing to do with that

Since when has defensive purposes been limited to construction? I was thinking of land mines and other traps.

[Makrell]

Since when has defensive purposes been limited to construction? I was thinking of land mines and other traps.

Land mines i see Personally im againist it si to noverpowered

[hellheaven1987]

"War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it" - General William T. Sherman

I say we should not ban the use.

[Dewy]

Land mines i see Personally im againist it si to noverpowered

Does it matter your not even in a Kingdom.

[Makrell]

Does it matter your not even in a Kingdom.

You never know what th3e future briungs
And AFAIK there is no rule saying Only kingdoms ncan discuss the conduit of war. Both me poach and others do

[Dewy]

Tell me why I shouldn't be allowed to use tnt in my own land?

[Ishoss]

I think it all comes down to the fact that the players themselves must make the judgement: if there is any chance of TNT causing damage (for instance with the use of cannons), then it shouldn't be used. The defenders (owners) can always employ TNT in any fashion on their own land, and will take full responsibility for the damage they inflict on their own structures.

I find this to be a very reasonable post.