Dammit Aradan, this means my political map is usless right?
The Dwarves seem pretty screwed over territory-wise. Obviously they get Khazad-dum, Erebor and the Iron Hills, will they have Belegost and Narag-zigil under their control as well? Still looks to me like you will need to expand quickly as them or you are screwed, but I thought they would be more numerous and have less population issues then the Elves?
My spell is working.And I just added a province in Rhovanion...
Wolloloooo, wolloloooo, wollolooo.
I'd probably still split Cardolan and Rhudaur.So, you're convinced no more provinces are needed in Cardolan, Rhudar, Upper Anduin, etc?
I'm really not sure concerning Upper Anduin. The Beorning's land around Anduin *could* be split in two provinces, Anduin being the border. Regarding what we read in The Hobbit those lands seem to be pretty civilized and developed quite well afterwards as Glóin states in The Fellowship. But I think there are no accounts what befell them during the War of the Ring.
So, this basically depends on how Beornings develop in-game. Since Elves don't expand they might perform not bad.
Since the AI does not attack Elves and Dwarves as you said, the matter is not that urgent.Still think a second settlement is needed in N. Greenwood?
But still it would feel better for following reason:
A second settlement would represent that the Kingdom of Thranduil is the last, the largest, the most powerful and oldest (intact) of all Elvish realms with a, for Elves in the FO, considerable large population that is not as "depressive" as their Noldor, Sindar and Galadhrim brethren but still joyful and also ready to *go* to war at need (and be it for gold only ) and not only defend their homelands. It should be *the* power base of the Elves and Thranduil acknowledged by many as the rightful "High-king".
Also Greenwood is vast and it's inhabitants should live, now that most dangers are eliminated, pretty scattered throughout the eastern part. Therefore I think it's absurd that it is possible to eliminate Elven presence in this really ancient realm with but one successful attack on Thranduil's Halls.
Gosh, there are so many essays in the web on Tolkien issues. And I don't even know all of the authors and pages. We should create a library here in the forums.It's a bit of educated guesswork actually, not evidence per se. Eg: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/832355/posts
Uh, well this now troubles me.No and no.
And yes. Look at the map more closely.will they have Belegost and Narag-zigil under their control as well?
Last edited by Thangaror; June 21, 2011 at 05:43 AM.
I'm still racking my brain over that emerging faction.
Oddly enough all factions that I considered possibly being emerging factions are already there:
Khand, breaking of from the Easterlings
Rhovanion/Beornings, breaking of from Dale
Harondor/Far Harad, breaking of from Harad
Tharbad, emerging under certain circumstances
So, there are few possibilities left.
Maybe a Bree-faction?
Or Adûnabâr rebels, forming a "good" Adûnabâr?
Many places are mentioned in a published book...
Does the infamous King Bladorthin return from the dead?
However, agreed with the rest of & everyone else's posts and loving the map. Aradan just couldn't help but let a little bit of the surprise out
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Well, of course Thranduil was not *the* rightful High-king. Thingol was "High-king" of the Sindar (though he never claimed this title, he was merely *the* king and there were no others after Denethor's death). Díor had already significantly lost importance. Gil-galad might be seen as Thingol's successor, since he was his, uhm, great-great-grandnephew (according to the newest genealogy). But as a matter of fact there was never again a "King of the Sindar" like Thingol. And after Gil-galad's fall there even was no king anymore west of Hithaeglir. In late TA Thranduil was the only remaining ruler who claimed the title "King".
Still, Thranduil became the most important Elf in ME after the War of the Ring. Círdan never claimed a title and Celeborn at this time had sort of settled down at his summer cottage becoming a retiree. Also we should keep in mind his considerable age which is often forgotten (more than 6000 years!) and the fact that he probably was related in some way to Thingol himself.
Whom would have e.g. Lórien called upon if suddenly assailed by a foe? Of course Thranduil. Where would Elves flee if there homes were destroyed (before sailing west)? Of course to Thranduil.
This is an intriguing essay on Bladorthin & Dorwinion anthropology/politics in general. I'll be very, very interested to see how this faction is implemented into DoM. I had assumed they'd be similar to the Wainriders, but it would seem from this research that it is likely they are more like middle men, along the lines of Dale & Rohan...
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We know these. Guess they didn't change that much. Wanna see Elves and Dwarves!
I was busy with job-hunting the last three weeks, and now got one paid well enough. So, even though I'm working a bit more now in terms of hours per week, I'll be able to devote more time to the mod again. So stay tuned, I'll see what I can offer you preview-wise.
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