Neutral Start?

**Jac_PS** · December 13, 2010, 06:04 PM

I don't know if there's a topic already, but is there a way to mod the very start of the European Campaign, so every faction starts neutral to with other and the hostilities gradually appearing during the course of the campaign?

**Dee Jay** · December 13, 2010, 08:22 PM

No i don't hink that there is, but i know what you mean. I hate the campaign because it feels like the whole thing has been setup, unlike all the other games when everyones nuetral and you get to pick how everything plans out. I was thinking about making a mod like this, i might give it a shot =)

**Jac_PS** · December 14, 2010, 08:26 PM

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, but I think in Napoleon there's some kind of script behind what faction goes to war to another, don't know for sure.
Just imagine the possibilities, maybe France allies with UK, maybe not, although not historically precise, it's fun.
I've posted in the mod workshop too, in the mapping forum.

**Dee Jay** · December 17, 2010, 12:32 AM

Well i could give it a shot, and make everyone nuetral with each other and make everyone like eachother the same.

**IlluminatiRex** · December 18, 2010, 09:02 AM

Sounds like a good idea. Though it saved me a lot of work when I started my quest for "The Medal of The Imperial Psychopath" achievement. Still working on it, as Russia.

**♠ quad ♠** · December 23, 2010, 12:42 AM

please please do it! pretty pretty please! I'll do anything for someone to make this!!!

**Jac_PS** · December 23, 2010, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Dee Jay

Well i could give it a shot, and make everyone nuetral with each other and make everyone like eachother the same.

What about the minor factions? One thing I've noticed so far is that the minor factions usually follow the rules of their allies, let's say, if Hessen is allied with Prussia and Prussia declares war on France, Hessen just follows Prussia or breaks the alliance. It will be wonderful if the minors take the initiative to declare wars or be more active in the campaign somehow.
Good luck with your mod and, please, keep us informed.
Thanks in advance.

**Dee Jay** · December 23, 2010, 05:57 AM

Alright im gonna do it, but because im making a rather big mod at the moment, it wont be my top priority, but I'll definatly get it done soon.

**Propaganda** · December 23, 2010, 08:18 AM

Dee, remember one thing, make it good otherwise AI declares war on you at first turn. This is just not work where you change just diplomacy between factions, you need to change relatsionship options too.
And napoleon's esf is different than empire's one, so good luck!

**Dee Jay** · December 23, 2010, 03:20 PM

Yeah, I've got a pretty good idea of what to do. Cheers Propaganda, feel free to +rep

**Jac_PS** · December 24, 2010, 02:09 AM

Wow! Dee and Propaganda, what was a proposal is becoming a truly mod! What can I say......
First and foremost, happy Christmas for you guys and all the Total War community!!!!!!!!!!!

If there's anything what I can do to help you guys, I'll be glad to... though I've only mess with the PFM, I have the ESF Editor here, but I don't understand its fully functionality, so you give me the tips and I report back...

**Dee Jay** · December 25, 2010, 05:28 AM

I've figured it all out, thanks anyways. But there's alot of entries, so it's gonna take some time.

**Dee Jay** · December 25, 2010, 05:35 AM

If anyone has a good name for the mod, that would help alot, cheers. (just post it here i guess)

**Dee Jay** · December 27, 2010, 07:50 AM

Sorry guys, but I havn't had much time doing this mod at the moment so not much of it is done, but it will get done.

**Jac_PS** · December 27, 2010, 04:51 PM

No need to rush Dee Jay, take your time.
About the name of the mod, couldn't find a good one, so please, don't laugh:

(NWW) Napoleon Without a War
(NNF) Napoleon: Neutral Factions

**MoleMania** · January 02, 2011, 12:57 PM

Here's a name idea:

Ceasefire!

..I tried.

Great mod idea though.

**.Mitch.** · January 02, 2011, 01:44 PM

Guys, I have a completely neutral starting campaign, from my work with The Great War. I don't want to tread on any toe's etc. But I can release it if there is want.