[Public Research] Poland-Lithuania

**Ataegina** · December 13, 2010, 03:46 PM

Here you can help GNW development by sharing here all the information/research regarding Poland-Lithuania, from polish-lithuanian names to family tree, to titles, to units (faction roster), audio material, visual references (video/images) and misc. information.

Note: information must be compatible with the mod time-frame (1700-1735).

**garudamon11** · December 18, 2010, 02:01 PM

I think Poland-Lithuania should start split up between the pretender and the actual king (forgot the names) and should have a mainly cavalry army, the abttleground in Polish-Lithuanian lands should be mainly plains to help their cavalry

**Diversus** · December 20, 2010, 04:54 AM

Budget, army, administration were separate. Most of the names where written in polish style and polonized in all commonwealth.

Sample of Lithuanian army.
http://http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaizdas

olish-Lithuanian_Army_1576-1586.PNG

http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaizdas...ia_in_1792.JPG

And thats kinda informative web about mostly Poland.
http://www.napolun.com/mirror/napole...lish_army.html

**Ataegina** · December 20, 2010, 04:19 PM

thanks for the information

but we need about 1700-1738 period

**Diversus** · December 21, 2010, 02:29 PM

Well atleast you could create for P-L commonwealth some unit variation representing that there where separate armies.

**jjja494** · December 22, 2010, 11:19 AM

What about the whole Saxon leader or what ever was occuring at that time. I'm fairly sure that P-L was ruled by the Saxon ruler. Perhaps a combination of those countries would make for a better historical accuracy. And since Poland-Lithuania will be closer to the conflict(unless Prussia and Saxony-Poland-Lithuania get into war with each other) you should let Poland recruit some Saxon units, who will have more morale perhaps, but be more expensive to recruit.

Saxony info:

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John George IV. died in 1694, after only three years of rule, succeeded by FREDERICK AUGUSTUS I. (1694-1733), called 'Augustus the Strong'. The conflict between Duke and Estates, which had begun under John George IV., continued; in 1709 the Land's Deputation was abolished, in 1711 the authority of the estates limired. In 1728 a LANDTAG ORDONNANCE was published, which prescrived the composition, procedure and authority of the Saxon Estates; the ordonnance was to remain in force until 1831.
In 1696, Polish King Jan Sobieski, the hero of Vienna, died. As Poland was an elective monarchy, Duke Frederick Augustus declared his candidacy for the Polish crown. On June 27th 1697, he was elected. In order to qualify for the Polish crown, Frederick Augustus I., as a private individual, converted to Catholicism, after signing a document in which he guaranteed Lutheranism as state confession in Saxony. The election had been costly, and was financed by ceding border territory such as Quedlinburg as a pawn, and by selling the claim to the inheritance of Sachsen-Lauenburg. As part of his coronation oath, Frederick Augustus had promised to restore Livonia (lost to Sweden in 1621) to the Polish crown. This brought Saxony in conflict with Poland's traditional enemy, Sweden. Swedish King Charles XI. had died in 1697, and was succeeded by his sin Charles XII., still a minor. Sweden's neighbours regarded the moment having arrived to strike against Sweden and regain lost territory; Denmark, Saxony-Poland and Russia were to sign an alliance when Charles XII. took command of his army, forced Denmark to stay out of the war, defeated the Russian forces and then turned on Poland. In the humiliating PEACE OF ALTRANSTÄDT 1706, Frederick Augustus had to resign his Polish crown. After Charles was defeated at Poltava in 1709, Frederick Augustus resumed his rule (1710-1733).
In Saxony, a state bureaucracy was established - a Secret Cabinet in c.1704, in 1706 a General War Tribunal, in 1707 an Auditioning College, in 1718 a State Construction Authority. Saxony was presented by permanent diplomatic missions in Vienna, Copenhagen, London, Stockholm, Berlin, Paris etc.; Dresden was King Frederick Augustis' main residence. Mercantilist policy, in the years after the Swedish threat had been dealt with, resulted in a reduction of state debt. Frederick Augustus supported Johann Friedrich Boettger's experiments, which succeeded in the production of PORCELAIN. The Ducal Saxon Porcelein Manufacture at Meissen (1710) was the first European factory to produce porcelein of a quality matching that of chinaware. In 1700 Saxony introduced the GREGORIAN CALENDAR. Silk industry had been established in Saxony in 1675, In 1703 the COLLEGE OF COMMERCE was established, as an office to supervise production and trade. Plans of a Saxon-Polish colonial policy failed because of the Great Northern War.
Frederick Augustus modelled his court after that of Versailles; ballet, theatre, opera performances, balls attracted artists and noblemen from far beyond the Saxon borders. Just as Louis XIV., Frederick Augustus had maitresses, which had a political function at the court, the first and most important being AURORA VON KÖNIGSMARCK. Frederick had a number of illegitimate children, of which Maurice de Saxe, son of Aurora von Koenigsmarck, later would gain fame as French general.
After the humiliating Treaty of Altranstaedt, the Saxon army was reformed and enlarged (30,000 men in 1717). JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH lived and composed in the prospering city of Leipzig, famous for her fairs.
Frederick Augustus I. pursuied a policy of religious toleration, permitted the settlement of Jews and of Moravian Brethren in Saxony.
In 1733, Frederick Augustus I. died. In Saxony, he was succeeded by FREDERICK AUGUSTUS II.; the latter also declared his candidacy for the Polish crown, where he faced a challenger in Stanislas Lesczynski, who under Charles XII. (1704-1710) briefly had worn the Polish crown. While France supported the latter, Austria and Russia firmly stood behind the Saxon; the WAR OF POLISH SUCCESSION ensued (1733-1735). The Austro-Russian-Saxon forces prevailed; Frederick Augustus II. succeeded his father in Poland as well (1735-1763).

**Lord Minotaur** · December 28, 2010, 01:02 PM

the comonwealth was ruled by a swedish dinasty of Vaza's o ( i think thats how its spelled)

the ruler of the comonwealth at the start should be Augustus II the strong i dont know who was his wife i cannot find it , the heir was
Stanisław Leszczyński and his wife was Catherine Opalińska. but theres a prob: its not a famly tree if you want a famly tree then the heir would be Augustus III the saxon.

**Diversus** · December 28, 2010, 03:50 PM

Christiane Eberhardine of Brandenburg-Bayreuth

**Lord Minotaur** · December 29, 2010, 10:15 AM

I found a cool website! there are lot of pictures some of then are based on 18 century. http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/anc...monwealth.html

**Chimney** · April 22, 2011, 08:48 AM

Well, basically, Poland at the time was at it's economical rise; the new Saxon king brought manufactures's, trade agreements with Saxony. But that's just a song of the future. At the beginning of XIX century, Poland was mainly agricultural country, and as such should be represented. Nobles filled their sacks with money made on selling grain. It would be historically accurate to have every Polish settlement with good farms, and grain exchanges from the start.

Great Northern War in fact began somewhere in 1705, when Sweden invaded Polish Inflants and destroyed Saxon army down there. Few years later, -06 or -07, don't remember, they deposed August II and brought Leszczynski to the throne. Polish nobles created Sandomirian Confederacy in order to bring Leszczynski down. So then began a period of civil war. Maybe if you decided to script this event, and divide Poland into 2 'countries'? Or simply begin your mod at the time of August II deposing. You could simply incorporate Leszczynski's Poland into Sweden and include Sandomirian Confederacy as proper 'Poland', with it's creators as leaders, giving the throne back to August (scripted) when they achieve to unite Poland.