The mod is complete by Drecie14 and it can be found in THIS THREAD +rep!!!!
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Don't know where to post this. However, I know in EB they have a spoils of war submod. I was wondering if anyone has one or knows how to create one. If you are not familiar, it simulates an army gaining a little money after a battle as if they were taking from the dead or captured enemy. Thanks in advance. this would be a great addition to RSII!!!
I like this idea allot! MAKE IT MAKE IT PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!
wouldn't that be the same thing as the Second Rebellion only with a happiness trigger instead?
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I'd be more interested in the supply lines of XGM XC but that sounds pretty cool.
I hope someone finds the the time to do it.
hey guys,
Im trying to add another set of ancillaries to my seleucid submod, but any ancillary i try to add is resulting in a "return to campaign menu" bug. Everything appears to be formatted the right way, just like the other ancillaries. anyone know what is causing this?
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Flavius Julius Constantinus, adopted Patrician, 30
Has anyone made a submod that makes the RS battles as short as vanilla RTW battles
if not is anyone planning to?
i find the battles still to long and easy
,and after fighting a long battle after another i feel a bit tired
infantry nvr brakes when charged by powerful calvary like in RTW and tho the battles are suppose to be realistic in length i think it gives up realism in the process
it would be nice to see ai own me once in a while n since they love to charge head
on i think it would be more challenging if it went back to RTW stats
but if no one is making or has a submod of this kind then id like to make one
but is there an easier way to lower all units stats without doing it individually on the descr unit txt?
cuz that would take really long
Thanks i would appreciate the help
I'm currently open for suggestions to what new unit or an existing unit from another faction to give to the Seleucids in my Seleucid Expansion mod
I have some pretty good ideas such as the Judean "Hundred Fighters" and Galatian Champions but I'm somebody out there with better historic knowledge can pitch something better. Suggested ought to have at least some historical backing to them to make into the submod.
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[RS 2.1a] Seleucid Unit Expansion V2
Hello guys, hi Spartan: I would want to install your Mods:
1) RS II Four Turns per Year v1.1 -UPDATED WITH BATTLE FIX
2) [RS 2.1] RS II Campaign Map Tweaks v1.5
But, I was wondering if he were preferibile, to install one before or the other, in order to avoid conflicts and harmful overlaps
I have already installed some mods:
- Ancillares
- Roman V
and I will install "New roman legion id cards for unit slots (rome 0turn and 1turn)"
since I don't know well, both the game and the mods, hope to make all this in the just order. Always that,there are one...
ops.......... I have confuse the 3d....
Last edited by srdn; December 22, 2010 at 05:10 PM.
Where are optio(s)? You should add them.
Apologies for anyone who's message i may miss or not be able to answer
I'm working on a 12 turns per year RS2 sub-mod that includes historical characters, and appropriate time lines for such things as the rebellions as well as when historical characters enter the game. However, to make this work I have to make the rebellions trigger on an exact date/ turn number. This leads me to a question about the traits that are linked to the rebellions in the background script.
Below are a couple of RS2 triggers for the Caesar Rebellion Trait which is linked to the background script for the rebellion. Does this mean that there are two different Caesar rebellions? If so is this to simulate both the civil war that took place between Julius Caesar and the Pompious Magnus lead Republic forces in addition to the civil war that took place between Augustus and Mark Antony/Cleopatra? I need to know so I can assure that the appropriate characters are in each rebellion and so I can ensure that each rebellion occurs at the appropriate date. Thanks in advance for any light that you can shed on this matter!
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Trigger Caesar_Rebellion2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition CultureType roman
and FactionType romans_brutii
and IsFactionLeader
and Trait Caesar_Rebellion = 1
and I_NumberOfSettlements romans_brutii < 60
Affects Caesar_Rebellion 1 Chance 100
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Trigger Caesar_Rebellion1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition CultureType roman
and FactionType romans_brutii
and IsFactionLeader
and not Trait HouseCaesar = 1
and not Trait Dictator > 0
and I_NumberOfSettlements romans_brutii >= 85
Affects Caesar_Rebellion 1 Chance 25
;------------------------------------------
In short: For your conecpt there wont be "light" never ever
Dont take it to bad but what you trying to do is simply not possible due to engine limitations.
I feel that you are in desperate need of studying the Tutorials (especially those in CODING and SCRIPTING) and hardcoded limts.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=195838
but beforehand let me tell you this...
1. 12 turns per year would make the game an 7656 turn agony...this is..well...no comment..let alone the summer/winter change in the engine...gameplay wise this setting is catastrophic
2. You simply can NOT create historical characters to enter the game when YOU want. Only way doin it would be per script but this would lead for sure to a campaign breaking Clone-Character CTD later. Forget about it
3. Appropiate timeline for Rebellion ????........are you kidding ???...assuming that the Ceasar Civil War took place around 48bc this would mean that In-Game the Rebellion would take place after roughly 2028 turns...aaawwweeeee mate...Players are done with the game after 250-450 turns at most...
there are numerous additional factors who are clearly working against your setting but the ones I stated should be enoguh for a brief answer.
I really dont think that this is a concept which could work in any way.
Chris10,
While I appreciate the fact that you replied to my post I would have appreciated it even more if you would have at least tried to answer my question. In any case, many of the thoughts you expressed I have previously rolled around in my head, and some of them are valid points, at least to an extent, whereas others are not so much.
I have studied many tutorials including coding, scripting, and hard coded limits. Believe it or not you are not talking to a complete newb. The only part of this game that I have no experience modding is CAS models, textures, and animations. I don't have the money for 3DSMAX which is the software necessary for model creation. I guess we will agree to disagree about what is possible, and in the end the results of my sub-mod will decide who is correct. Note my sub-mod will only work with alex.exe due to the fact that I am using more unit models than the 255 that RS2 came with. As we both know only alex.exe allows you to use more.
It is actually 3,815 turns of agony, but to each their own. I happen to like it and I'm sure there are other players, perhaps only a few, that would like it as well. I've already got that part working with no issues other than the fact that it makes for a very long game. The script I'm using even tells you what year it is in AD or BC along with which month it is via the export_advise.txt file.
I have and you can. It is called using the console_command kill_character in your script. RS2 even does this for their revolts. Look at the RS2 background script. I'm starting to feel that maybe you need to study some scripting. Have a look here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221683 . If you still have doubts maybe you should talk about it with HouseofHam or DVK901 as they both do this.
Currently I have already added Gaius Julius Caesar, Spartacus, Crixus, Oenomaus, Castus, and Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus via script. The toughest part is deciding on which starting traits each character should have based on their historical profile. I'm also working to add the following historical characters:
- Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis
- Marcus Tullius Cicero
- Marcus Licinius Crassus
- Marcus Junius Brutus
- Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus
- Agrippa
- Marcus Antonius
You are close on the number of turns. In fact, 48bc in my 12tpy script is turn number 2,052. I have looked at this matter and considered using a 4tpy script instead. Another option I've been considering is changing the time-line to make it from 99bc to 14ad. In any case, I realize not all players enjoy very long games, but there are a few of us out there whom do. In order to make average players willing to play that long I feel that it is necessary to make player expansion much more difficult.
In closing, my mod is very doable. This is not the fist time I have undertaken such an endeavor. However, some of the traits in RS2 and how they are intended to work with the background script do puzzle me. This is why I asked the question above, and I would still be very grateful if someone were to provide the answer.
yeahh..no hard feelings...
1.yeah...sloppy mistake... 3815 turns...just an average of 5 minutes of each turns would make this
19075 minutes / 60 = 317,9 hours without considering any time spent on battles...c'mon you cant be serious
2. I dont need confirmation from somebody else...you did not have done your homework,mate...Spawning Generals with Armys and use kill_character is not the same as these "persons" are not named characters anymore with traits and ancillarys...just dumb captains...you got this totally wrong...if you spawn a character and you kill him per console he is dead.
If you would have paid attention you would have noticed that all named characters spawned by Backgroundscript in RSII have been killed in RSII 2.1 due to the fact that they will cause a clone CTD...so..NO named characters anymore and no need to bother with traits and ancillarys.
I warn you....If you spawn named characters and let them alive they will break your campaign for sure,thats not an option if you maybe considering it.
3. Just one example of the dozens why your setting will not work. The AI tends to form superfactions and only can be hold in place for a relative short while but at a certain point one AI faction WILL steamroll its area and form a superfaction. Imagine it is Parthia and you have planned Cleopatra to appear on 60bc but by this date parthia already destroyed egypt and all that work was useless....
of course you can do it with roman characters only but Iam afraid that by the time you spawn Caesar there will be only one !!! AI faction left on the map becasue it steamrolled all others.
I coud tell you a long list of more downsides but I feel you would not listen so I only can wish you good luck...
Last edited by chris10; December 29, 2010 at 12:02 PM.
Chris10,
Once again I appreciate your feedback.
Valid point you make here. 99% of people would probably not be willing to spend nearly a year on a single campaign. I happen to be in that very small minority.
I have noticed that they changed the named characters to generals in RSII 2.1. However, I don't believe the named characters was causing the CTD. If you kill any character using kill_character with the name of your spawned character before you spawn him then you don't have a cloned character. I believe the end of turn CTDs in the original version of RS2 had more to do with the revolt CTD and perhaps a few other issues. Further, my thought on why the named characters were removed from the background script was because so many people complained that the release version of RS2 was too difficult. Hence, DVK901 replaced the powerful named characters with dumb generals. I may be wrong behind his reasoning, but that was my impression of his reasoning. On this point as to whether spawning named characters causes the CTD we will continue to disagree.
Again this is not my first rodeo. I know about super-factions, and the longer the campaign goes on the less likely that a multitude of factions will exist. RS2 uses some admirable features to increase survivability of factions. However, there are more methods that they could have used which I plan on using. This is not an easy undertaking to say the least, but I believe I can greatly improve upon the survivability of each AI faction. I have also thought about scenarios such as the one you pointed out with Cleopatra. This is where "if" conditionals can come in handy. Cleopatra and the faction of egypt do not have to exist for a revolt to be lead by Mark Antony. In fact, via script my plan is for him to switch from Romans_Brutii to Roman Rebels (thrace).
In any case, the point I agree with you the most on is that my concept of a mod should be shortened in years/turns. Either by qty of turns per year or the time frame that it covers in itself, or perhaps by both. I'm sure that I am one of the very few players that likes a campaign that lasts for a very long time with very slow progress.
Last edited by CPT Worsham; December 29, 2010 at 12:40 PM.
sighhhh....you should not base your work on simple "assumptions" or believings just because they fit your purpose but more on proper research...I post you a qoute from tone and you really should listen...forget about spawning characters..It will break your campaign.
Mate...if you kill the charater on spawning him then you dont have obviously a character which can be cloned but you wont have named character with traits either..is this so difficult to understand? And if you have to kill the characters when spawning them you wont have the historical persons...a simple logical chain
I have the impression you do not understand fully what the clone character CTD really means...your statements are proof of that...to enlight yourself I recommend to read this thread
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...18#post4067818
start reading from post no 5 and read until th end
Last edited by chris10; December 29, 2010 at 01:55 PM.
Chris10,
I've read the thread that you pointed me to many times before. I've even pointed it out to others in the past. As you can see I even made a post in that thread on May, 14 2010. The one thing in that thread that never got my attention was this statement by Aradan, "Nope, I've never had cloning for the player's faction, just AI." If that is the case then perhaps scripting named characters is limited only to the players faction. I will do some thorough testing on the AI to see if I can make it CTD with these scripted named characters. However, it is important to note that the entire thread talks about named characters in descr_strat that are not part of the family tree rather than scripted named characters.
I think maybe the problem between us not being able to understand one another is that you are speaking the Queen's English and I'm speaking American English. You don't seem to understand what I am saying about killing a character before spawning one with the same name. In any case, I've used this method many times in the past without issue. I'm alarmed by the qoute by Aradan above and I will conduct further testing based on that qoute. Maybe you understood most of what I said with my American English. If so that is great, but if not maybe we need an interpreter.
By the way you still have not attempted to answer my question above. Do you know the answer?