Naval Trade

**jlchavis0844** · December 09, 2010, 08:35 PM

Just started my first R&M game with Mali and I'm steaming rolling despite the fact that there seems to be zero naval trade for any faction. This is a little weird. I've checked trade details and built ports and even naval acadamies, but no trade. There are also no blue lines for other factions. Am I missing something here?

**irishron** · December 09, 2010, 08:57 PM

It will not show up on small unit sizes.
I usually don't see much until I start building warehouses.
It does favor land trade routes.

**Gigantus** · December 10, 2010, 11:45 AM

Have a look in the settlement details screen if there is any naval trade. Could be that the graphics don't show up.

If there is a direct land connection (border is sufficient, road not necessary) then there will be only land trade.
~~If the distance to the next port is too great, then there will be no sea trade.~~see below

Edit:
I believe this entry in descr_campaign_db indicates the minimum distance for sea trade (no maximum distance limit setting as I had thought):

<port_to_port_mp_min float="100.0"/>

Trade in Reg Prov is through the sea trade buildings only (merchants_wharf warehouse docklands) - which means there will be no sea trade unless you have at least the lowest level of this building tree. Ports alone do not trade, they only convey a general trade income bonus (in the form of a multiplier)

**jlchavis0844** · December 10, 2010, 04:17 PM

In Vanilla and various other mods sea trade is much more prevalent which is why I was a little puzzled. It seems that it requires further advancement than usual. For instance, with a shipwright, wharf, large bazaar, and paved roads Alexandria's only naval trade is to Gaza, preferring to trade with Jerusalem and even Benghazi by land.

**irishron** · December 10, 2010, 04:27 PM

Even in vanilla Alexandria and Benghazi would be land trade as the regions are next door. You can get Alexandria to trade with Nicosia but it takes more work.

**Gigantus** · December 10, 2010, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by jlchavis0844

In Vanilla and various other mods sea trade is much more prevalent which is why I was a little puzzled. It seems that it requires further advancement than usual. For instance, with a shipwright, wharf, large bazaar, and paved roads Alexandria's only naval trade is to Gaza, preferring to trade with Jerusalem and even Benghazi by land.

If there is a direct land connection (border is sufficient, road not necessary) then there will be only land trade.