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    Default [RS 2.1a] Legion ancillaries

    ok...
    after reading the post "Ancillaries Question" by terzer,
    I made this submod...

    -this was based on the SPQR mod's "Legate Ancillaries"
    -General's can receive the "Legion Ancillary"
    -Available only after you have the "Marian/Imperial Reforms" and built the Curia Hostilia
    -This is still Beta/version 1 so if you guys found any bugs, just inform me
    I have tested it, but I haven't found any bugs yet...I will make further tests just to be sure
    -MAKE BACKUPS of the files you will replace
    -This is for RS 2.1 Rome 0-turn and Rome 1-turn
    EDIT:REUPLOADED THE FILE. RS 2.1a compatible...
    -Delete map.rwms after you install this
    -PROVEN NOT TO BE SAVE-GAME COMPATIBLE

    HOW TO INSTALL
    -extract the RAR file
    -choose which of the versions you would like to use
    -copy the files from the version "x"(example: version 1.0) folder to your RTW/RS2 directory(where you installed RS2

    (NOTE:To install this for 1-turn, simply paste the files and folders from the submod's Play_Rome Folder to the Play_Rome 1-turn Folder)

    -List of cities where a general can get the ancillary(version 1.5 alternative)

    (note:"early bird gets the early worm" for example: the first general who goes to Genoa gets the II Augusta, 2nd general who goes to Genoa gets the III Gallica, last one will get the V Alaudae)

    LEGIO I GERMANICA-Arretium
    LEGIO II AUGUSTA-Genoa
    LEGIO III AUGUSTA-Messana
    LEGIO III GALLICA-Genoa
    LEGIO IX HISPANIESIS-Emporiae
    LEGIO V ALAUDAE-Genoa
    LEGIO VI FERRATA-Taurasia
    LEGIO VII CLAUDIA PF-Capua
    LEGIO VIII AUGUSTA-Cannae
    LEGIO X GEMINA-Ariminum
    LEGIO XI CLAUDIA PF-Lilybaeum
    LEGIO XIII GEMINA-Ariminum
    LEGIO I ADIUTRIX-Salonae
    LEGIO I MINERVA-Apollonia
    LEGIO III CYRENAICA-Alexandria
    LEGIO IV FLAVIA FELIX-Dyrrhachium
    LEGIO IV SCYTHICA-Ephesos
    LEGIO V MACEDONICA-Edessa
    LEGIO VI VICTRIX PF-Gadir
    LEGIO X FRETENSIS-Alexandria
    LEGIO XII FULMINATA-Gergovia
    LEGIO XIV GEMINA MARTIA VICTRIX-Bononia
    LEGIO XV APOLLINARIS-Apollonia
    LEGIO XVI FLAVIA FIRMA-Ephesos
    LEGIO XX VALERIA VICTRIX-Gadir
    LEGIO XXI RAPAX-Segestica
    LEGIO XII DIETORIANA-Alexandria
    LEGIO XXII PRIMIGENIA-Gergovia

    -some screenshots
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    Version 1.1 is out

    -Hamata Legions' Ancillaries for Roman Fortress
    -Lorica Legions' Ancillaries for the Curia Hostilia
    -1 ancillary per city

    Version 1.2 is out

    -Added Praetorian Ancillary available only in Rome once you've built the Praetorian Barracks
    -I'm now in my 30th turn...used cheats to speed up things
    only for the purpose of testing...Still no bugs or CTDs

    Version 1.3
    -removed the bonus to movement points
    these are the bonuses
    +1 command
    +1 troop morale
    +2 influence

    Version 1.4
    -fixed some messy ancillaries
    -it should be save-game compatible...if someone could test this out...

    Version 1.5
    -I fixed the Praetorian Ancillary now (hopefully there will be no bugs)
    -Thanks Chris10 for pointing out that unnecessary commas and spaces can cause CTDs

    Version 1.6
    -Additional fixes

    Version 1.7
    -Thanks Chris10 for spotting additional errors I made

    ************************************************************************
    -thank you very much lt1956 for giving me permission to use SPQR's EDA as a basis
    -thank you to terzer, the pioneer of this idea
    unfortunately he wasn't updating that topic/thread/post? so I kinda got impatient and took matters into my own hands
    -thank you chris10 for helping me out and your wonderful ideas
    ************************************************************************

    here are the links...enjoy

    version 1.0(outdated - file deleted)

    version 1.1(outdated - file deleted)

    version 1.2(outdated - file and link deleted)

    version 1.3(outdated - file and link deleted)

    version 1.4(outdated - file and link deleted)

    version 1.5(outdated - file and link deleted)

    version 1.6(outdated - file and link deleted)

    LATEST
    Version 1.7
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=3111
    Last edited by drecie14; January 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] LEGION ANCILLARIES

    yup.......I was thinking about doin it but did not have time as I work on sort of an expansion for Rome Campaign. Very good...one thing less to care about..
    Iam curious how it work in citys where the player can recruit lots of different Legions.
    Whats the logical syntax of granting the ancillaries?
    In SPQR there is no confusion as there is just 1 Legion per City.
    When the time comes I would like to include it with the expansion Iam working on.
    Still a bit of work though....

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] LEGION ANCILLARIES

    i did it...
    there are 2 in Genoa, 3 in Alexandria, etc.
    ExcludedAncillaries condition worked

    i'll update a list of cities where you can get them

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    Quote Originally Posted by drecie14 View Post
    i did it...
    there are 2 in Genoa, 3 in Alexandria, etc.
    ExcludedAncillaries condition worked

    i'll update a list of cities where you can get them
    Try make things not to complicated.
    I would assign 1 ancilliearie to 1 city closest position to Italy where a certain Legion can be trained...so there would only be 28 citys to get them.
    as dvk said...the more complicated it gets the more likely it will mess up something else..

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] LEGION ANCILLARIES

    that could work
    this is still beta anyway...so a few tests and fixes might do the trick
    i'll do that in version 2

    thanks for pointing that out chris10

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    Quote Originally Posted by drecie14 View Post
    that could work
    this is still beta anyway...so a few tests and fixes might do the trick
    i'll do that in version 2

    thanks for pointing that out chris10
    No prob..
    Iam really interested in see this work in a reliable, stable and uncomplicated form.

    And make sure to add 1 for a Praetorian Commander to get in Rome !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by drecie14 View Post
    "early bird gets the early worm"
    you are german......nur der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm
    Last edited by chris10; December 06, 2010 at 09:19 AM.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] LEGION ANCILLARIES

    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    No prob..
    Iam really interested in see this work in a reliable, stable and uncomplicated form.

    you are german......nur der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm
    i will do my best to make this submod work perfectly

    oh...im not german
    im asian a filipino to be exact

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    Quote Originally Posted by drecie14 View Post
    i will do my best to make this submod work perfectly

    oh...im not german
    im asian a filipino to be exact
    but you live in germany or have other sort of contact with germans otherwise you could no get to this spelling

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] LEGION ANCILLARIES

    nope...im in asia i nver went to Germany yet though i have thought about it
    i nver had any contact with Germans yet, if you're German, then you'd be the first

    it was in an old elementary textbook of mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by drecie14 View Post
    nope...im in asia i nver went to Germany yet though i have thought about it
    i nver had any contact with Germans yet, if you're German, then you'd be the first
    It was in an old elementary textbook of mine
    ...ok..I was stunned in a funny way because this a old german splling which the older tell the younger when they dont want to get up in the morning...

    Ok..listen..I gave it a quick thought...Making the Ancilliaries available through the Curia is to late for the hamata legions...
    at this stage of the game the player is very advanced in most cases...
    better tie the ancilliearies for the hamata legions to the roman fortress and the segmentata ones to the curia obviously...but the hamata ancilliearies should be available earlier...

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] LEGION ANCILLARIES

    same thing they taught us when we were kids...

    i will upload a version 1.1 of this changing the Curia to a Roman Fortress
    It's getting pretty late here in Asia...almost 12am
    i'll do it first thing in the morning

    BTW as for the praetorians, i'll look for a good banner to use as an ancillary image

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    Great work, guys!
    +rep to both of you

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    Ok..I gave it little whirl and Iam suggesting 1 Legion Ancillarie per City per Legion ( so never doubled or it will be a mess )...
    There are 28 citys where to get them.
    Hamata Legions tied to Roman Fortress
    Segmentata Legions tied to Curia
    I upload a map and the list of Legion Numbers and their corresponding Citys.
    That would be the most simple and maybe the most reliable thing to do.
    The hamata ones (RED) being the early ones can be obtained all around Italy and the areas the player conquers first
    and the Segemtata ones in the later empire (YELLOW).
    I did not went thu your entire list but I think its very similar...
    As well I add you the Praetorian Symbol for the ancillary.
    What do you think?

    Iam really happy that you are going to take care of the Legion Ancillaries so I dont have to do it and can focus on the Garrison Script and other things I plan for the Rome Campaign Expansion.
    So upfront +rep

    Quote Originally Posted by toluas View Post
    Great work, guys!
    +rep to both of you
    very kind...
    Last edited by chris10; December 06, 2010 at 04:55 PM.

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    Super!!! I'm very glad, that this mod is complete! l strongly recommend this mod to be included in the next patch!
    +rep

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Legion ancillaries

    GOOD NEWS EVERYONE
    Version 1.1 is out

    -Hamata Legions' Ancillaries for Roman Fortress
    -Lorica Legions' Ancillaries for the Curia Hostilia
    -1 ancillary per city

    -I still included a copy of version 1.0(updated of course) with Hamata and Lorica ancillaries separated(see above line 1 and 2) but you can still get 2 or 3 legion ancillaries in a city

    (note:Still testing version 1.0, I haven't found any bugs or CTDs yet...it's my 19th turn and still nothing funny)
    Im determined to make 2 or 3 ancillaries work out...

    -Praetorians to be released in version 1.2

    here's the link...
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=3110

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Legion ancillaries

    off topic question...
    i'm new here
    i hope you guys don't mind if i ask this...
    "What's a +rep?"

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Legion ancillaries

    Rep or reputation is a means of showing your approval to someone for doing sth. good, saying sth. clever, being helpful...nothing fancy, but in theory, a measure of your standing community-wise. (And it shows in the crowns or laurels beneath your post count.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by toluas View Post
    Rep or reputation is a means of showing your approval to someone for doing sth. good, saying sth. clever, being helpful...nothing fancy, but in theory, a measure of your standing community-wise. (And it shows in the crowns or laurels beneath your post count.)

    thank you very much

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    Np.

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    What a delightful addition this mod is to RSII... Thank you so much for whipping this up, drecie14.

    -And i'm amused to no end that you're cranking out a full-fledged sub-mod but unaware of what all these "+rep" references were all about.


    I haven't tried it yet -- but what is the effect if a general has the max # of ancillaries already and visits the city? Does the ancillary simply wait for the first *available* general?
    Are they transferable? What happens upon the general's death?
    Last edited by Beetlecat; December 06, 2010 at 11:35 PM.

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