About the Romans, I agree with what alexander the average says. I'm thinking maybe the thoraktai should be at least under the legionaries, but not let themselves get eaten up. I don't know if this would make them superior to the principes though (historically the post-marian legionary was based on the principes)
Cinuz, I think the tweaking you did is great +rep in part because it was I had in mind . Besides now armored hoplites won't be as powerful now.
And can we please make poeni infantry more accessible by moving them to the city barracks?
I'll take that suggestion to my grave if it's necessary...
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Upload the file, but just make it compatible with the minipatches, so people have a choice. Nice looking units as well.
EDIT: While I really want to maintain the vanilla feel, I would not be opposed to editing hoplites so they fight like this-
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Adding in the short_spear attribute couldn't hurt either.
Last edited by Achea; December 10, 2010 at 08:53 PM.
what does everyone think about giving militia hoplites shirts. i know we want to keep the vanilla feel... but i don't think they would have fought in JUST their man-skirts...
anyone else with me?
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They did have breastplates, as EB portrayed their Polybian Hastati with them. But said breastplates don't look like they provide as much protection as a linothorax would.
That's why I suggested putting Thureophoroi and Hastati on par with each other. But I think that since Hastati used bigger shields, they should get a higher shield rating than Thureophoroi. Thureophoroi, on the other hand, getting the advantage against cavalry with their spears (as you suggested) would presumably balance them out.
I've changed the sacred band and the spartans' recruitment turns from 2 to 3...
Here is the file!
EDIT - I like Sabazios suggestion for the thureophoroi!
Last edited by Cinuz; December 11, 2010 at 06:39 AM.
brilliant images Sabazios. +rep. where did you get them?
you too Cinuz. i like your fixes.
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On a fairly off topic note, I just posted a Hellenic States "Who Am I?" map in that thread in general discussion, so come and guess.
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Nice pictures Sabazios, you can have some rep on me.
Really? Because they get THRASHED by Principes, even without throwing a volley of javelins. I just did a custom battle, and for every Principe killed around 8.5 LPs were killed.Despite the fact Liby-Phoenicians have spears, they use light_spear attribute and they haven't any penalties vs. infantry; you may check export_descr_unit to see. And their secondary weapon is a sword already, so in general they should be pretty effective if used against roman pre-marian troops.
Last edited by Achea; December 11, 2010 at 02:58 PM.
even though now i realize all you did was scroll down further than me in google images... you still get the rep.
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Hi guys. Thank you very much for images; I spend a half of an evening to get something similar to them, but here they are, new version of thureophoroi.
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However, I think that I'll add both versions to the game, as 'light' (unarmored) and 'heavy' thureophoroi. There are still some work to handle with, but new minipatch is on its way.
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Great job, they look just right. As always, I can help out with descriptions and such. +rep
The thureophoroi are great, but if I can give you a suggestion, I'd re-colour the cape so that it would have the red of the faction's colours...
Based on this article (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sar...hikrates1.html) I though that the model of the heavy thueorophoroi would be nice to use for marines. I agree that the name greek marines isnt really appropriate then, maybe call them Iphikratean Marines instead.
edit: hmm just saw that they were armed with pelta shield instead of thureos