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    Default RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    In 1700 England, Scotland and Ireland were separate countries so this is what this mod does, make them separate countries.

    1.Download the attached file
    2.Extract
    3.Starpos.esf goes to [...]\empire total war\data\campaigns\DMUC_Cmain
    4.The other two files goes to [...]\empire total war\data\
    5.Add "mod EnglishFlag.pack;" (without the " ") to the top of the script of the custom campaign
    6.Now just start Start a custom campaign

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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    Ireland was not really independent (I am Irish so I know). There was a separate Irish Parliament until 1801, but the 80% of the population who were Catholics were not allowed to vote for it before 1795 or sit in it (at all). Also, under Poynings Law, the English Parliament (and later the British Parliament) had precedence over the Irish Parliament until it was repealed in 1782. In that context, having Ireland as an independent faction is something i disagree with.

    It wasn't like the Scottish Parliament which was independent of the English one.
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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    So from what you're saying, having Ireland as an independent faction is like making American states different factions (since they get overruled by the federal government)? I think it's more like the situation with the Thirteen Colonies and Britain (British Parliament > Colonial Parliaments) so they should be a protectorate. But Ireland and England were in personal union since 1555 too. In ETW personal unions are represented with alliances.

    Up to Fortes though.

    @Fortes: "mod EnglishFlag.pack;" should go right before "mod DMUC_Custom.pack;"

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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    Fortes, people might want to play with the EICs and Gb as one country, so I suggest you have two versions of EIC, one with this mod, one without.
    AS with Ireland, what is said above is true.
    To an extent it was also true with SCotland-england and scotland shared a monarch, and the english controlled most of Scotland already.

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    Well, the flags look good.
    But hey, Okmin learned it from a master

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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    Thank you all for your replies they will help me improving this.

    @ Tango: Yes I'll make separate versions

    @MatrixStorm: I'll ask you the next version i need





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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortes View Post
    Thank you all for your replies they will help me improving this.

    @ Tango: Yes I'll make separate versions

    @MatrixStorm: I'll ask you the next version i need
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixStorm View Post
    Well, the flags look good.
    But hey, Okmin learned it from a master
    Yes I did, but this time I just used that unused English naval flag that's in vanilla ETW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okmin View Post
    Yes I did, but this time I just used that unused English naval flag that's in vanilla ETW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo2006 View Post
    Ireland was not really independent (I am Irish so I know). There was a separate Irish Parliament until 1801, but the 80% of the population who were Catholics were not allowed to vote for it before 1795 or sit in it (at all). Also, under Poynings Law, the English Parliament (and later the British Parliament) had precedence over the Irish Parliament until it was repealed in 1782. In that context, having Ireland as an independent faction is something i disagree with.

    It wasn't like the Scottish Parliament which was independent of the English one.

    Shh...don't tell them

    But Ireland was a confederation,like a Vassal of England. I would say Keep Ireland like it is but then again two versions would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peteriscoolz View Post
    Shh...don't tell them

    But Ireland was a confederation,like a Vassal of England. I would say Keep Ireland like it is but then again two versions would be nice.
    Yes, I'll release other version after i finish my next East India Companies version.
    The next version will have Ireland as British and some other minor updates as it's obvious I'll keep the already version for the ones that want to play Ireland





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    Two nights ago I was playing as the United provinces and wondering how cool it would be to see Ireland take over england and Scotland and rule the British isles. Tonight I stand with The isle's Malta and various parts of north Africa under the Irish flag. I thank you for your mod! Also I made Dublin rebel and took sides with the lower class to make my government a republic so London would quit revolting. I was wondering if I could get the Irish Republic flag somehow since my goverment is now the republic of Ireland. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frid View Post
    Two nights ago I was playing as the United provinces and wondering how cool it would be to see Ireland take over england and Scotland and rule the British isles. Tonight I stand with The isle's Malta and various parts of north Africa under the Irish flag. I thank you for your mod! Also I made Dublin rebel and took sides with the lower class to make my government a republic so London would quit revolting. I was wondering if I could get the Irish Republic flag somehow since my goverment is now the republic of Ireland. Thanks.
    Glad you like it
    If you want the republic flag of Ireland you can use this mod, but it isn't compatible with mine one.
    It is easy to make them compatible if you are interested i can explain you how.

    Oh and welcome to the forum since it's your first post





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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    I thought England started flying the union flag in 1606 with the union of the crowns.

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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    No, act of Union 1707, the monarchies merged a lot early that the kingdoms did.

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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortes View Post
    Glad you like it
    If you want the republic flag of Ireland you can use this mod, but it isn't compatible with mine one.
    It is easy to make them compatible if you are interested i can explain you how.

    Oh and welcome to the forum since it's your first post
    Er... that mod doesn't use the real Irish flag I could change that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okmin View Post
    Er... that mod doesn't use the real Irish flag I could change that though.
    Didn't know of that. BTW Okmin can you do a little beta-test to Victoria startpos? just see if it works...





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    Sure.

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    Default Re: RELEASED Proper United Kingdom

    Oh well I guess! Thanks for the welcome, I have had a account for awhile just have not ever found something worth while to post! If anyone could help me on getting the Republics flag for Ireland I would greatly appreciate it!

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    It no longer works with 6.7 please update! EDIT: The flags show but Ireland and Scotland dont have territory.
    Last edited by Frid; December 12, 2010 at 03:30 PM.

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