Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 47

Thread: Morality and Love Triangles

  1. #1
    Elfdude's Avatar Tribunus
    Patrician Citizen

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Usa
    Posts
    7,335

    Default Morality and Love Triangles

    How do you choose between decisions to make when no matter the option it isn't acceptable? My morality has long been guided through a logic that was so crystal clear that I've never had difficulty deciding how to act and what to do. However the concept of a love triangle, or even square or whatever shape you want to think about has thrown me for a loop.

    Person A proposes to the Love Interest that they are interested in them. Person A and the love interest have been friends for many years, they have grown close but despite the Love Interest's best attempts Person A has always avoided a romantic relationship. Now the love interest would have little difficulty deciding if Person A was the only person to to suggest a romantic relationship.

    Person B has had an interest in the Love interest for quite some time, in response to Person A's declaration person B also makes a declaration of their feelings. The Love Interest has been there for person B in times of hardship and gradually restored person B's optimism and happiness perhaps even stronger than before.

    Person C makes no declaration however their interest in the Love Interest has been apparent for some time. Person C is a shy inhibited person but the Love Interest has a knack at seeing through this and offering them what they desire. Person C grows depressed at the declarations of the other two although it's clear that they were it not for their fears want to be with the Love Interest too. Worse all 3 are part of the same peer group and friends with each other as well.

    Now here's the conflict. The love interest's only motivation in helping these 3 people has always been their friendship and happiness. While his relationship with person A has history to it, the depth of the relationship is about equal to the depth of the relationships with the other two. Each of the three are attractive, intelligent and have a depth of character that interests the Love Interest. More importantly the Love Interest's motivation to keep everyone happy is still present. Is there any possible way to make them all happy without hurting any of them?

    No matter what I try, the solution to this seems completely obscured. Personal tastes aside I don't know if there's a legitimate way for the Love Interest to choose between any of the three. Over and over I turn to the idea of polygamy and immediately turn away. Does anyone else see a solution to this moral problem?

    Essentially what's the solution to to a love triangle in which each person is about equal.
    Last edited by Elfdude; January 09, 2011 at 04:49 AM.

  2. #2

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    I'd never date someone in my circle of close friends. More often then not, it sparks jealousy, rivalry and bad vibes, not to mention the fact that if it doesn't work out, it often means the end of the circle. I've seen it happen a lot, and it's just not worth the risk.

    But I've always felt strongly about the 'homies before ho's' sentiment; for me, friendship is more important for a happy life then a relationship.

    PS I reserve the right to completely contradict myself if I ever do happen to run across someone I fall madly in love with. As of yet, this has never happened.

  3. #3

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Love is not equal. Love is not quantifiable. Love is not rational.

    Love triangles will usually devolve into a couple and close friend, unless all 3 are the same sex, in which all bets are off.

  4. #4
    Opifex
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    New York, USA
    Posts
    15,154

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    What you're discussing is so unhealthy and so outside the normal bounds of human relationships, that I don't think a person would likely have anything substantive to say to you on the matter. Generally what Khassaki said is right, that a love triangle among heterosexual people just devolves into a couple with the third person staying on as a friend or leaving altogether. But even that is unlikely to apply here. The very fact that you've been seriously attracted to polygamy, possibly even homosexual polygamy from the looks of it, shows how little regard is had for normal human relationships by you, and so there's little that can be said by us on this issue.
    Last edited by SigniferOne; January 09, 2011 at 01:17 PM.


    "If ye love wealth greater than liberty,
    the tranquility of servitude greater than
    the animating contest for freedom, go
    home from us in peace. We seek not
    your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch
    down and lick the hand that feeds you,
    and may posterity forget that ye were
    our countrymen."
    -Samuel Adams

  5. #5
    Tuor's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Arkansas, USA
    Posts
    1,261

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne View Post
    What you're discussing is so unhealthy and so outside the normal bounds of human relationships, that I don't think a person would likely have anything substantive to say to you on the matter. Generally what Khassaki said is right, that a love triangle among heterosexual people just devolves into a couple with the third person staying on as a friend or leaving altogether. But even that is unlikely to apply here. The very fact that you've been seriously attracted to polygamy, possibly even homosexual polygamy from the looks of it, shows how little regard is had for normal human relationships by you, and so there's little that can be said by us on this issue.
    Just because polygamy isn't normal in Westernized countries doesn't make it so globally. You're enculturated to think that. Also, how did you come up with "homosexual polygamy" out of what he wrote? Even if "homosexual polygamy" was something that elfdude was contemplating, I do not wish to be included in the "us". I can say quite a lot about this issue, regardless of the content. Just because I might disagree with it morally does not mean that I have to say, "Well, I disagree with this, so there's nothing to talk about here."

    elfdude, the only thing that I can suggest is that the love interest have a chat with all three persons. If they are intelligent like you said, they may be able to come up with a way to work it all out that doesn't harm their emotions. Their input is necessary to a degree. That, or the love interest might take turns with the relationships. I know that sounds a bit odd, but I had two friends in high school that dated knowing that their relationship was only superficial at the most and that it would be broken up upon graduation. It was for "fun" (not sex, either). Dating is a period of testing for a couple, so the love interest could set a certain amount of time to be with each person. I'm merely contemplating here, though. That could end up badly, too.

  6. #6
    chriscase's Avatar Chairman Miao
    Civitate Patrician

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    5,732

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Quote Originally Posted by SigniferOne View Post
    What you're discussing is so unhealthy and so outside the normal bounds of human relationships, that I don't think a person would likely have anything substantive to say to you on the matter. Generally what Khassaki said is right, that a love triangle among heterosexual people just devolves into a couple with the third person staying on as a friend or leaving altogether. But even that is unlikely to apply here. The very fact that you've been seriously attracted to polygamy, possibly even homosexual polygamy from the looks of it, shows how little regard is had for normal human relationships by you, and so there's little that can be said by us on this issue.
    This is about what I'd expect from you, Sig. Arranged marriages all around, eh?

    OP,
    What you are describing is not really a classic triangle, but something a lot less common. I suspect "the love interest" will find that the dynamic tends to devolve into a combination of triangles and diads rather than staying in (if it ever really was) a four-person configuration. Three people attracted to the same individual will tend to attract another person or break into smaller units. At least that's my experience.

    If this is really an advice thread, my advice is to forget about the romance angle for a while and ask yourself if you are each of these people's friend. If you are a friend, ask how a friend - someone who truly cares for that person's well-being - would act.

    Edit: Also, if we are talking about one guy and three women here, don't be too surprised if the women take matters into their own hands and work out whatever arrangement they think is best. So unless you have a stroke of brilliance and the fortitude to make it stick, I wouldn't go doing anything that you're going to regret later. As long as you have acted with genuine integrity toward each of these women, whatever they decide to do shouldn't throw you for too much of a loop.
    Last edited by chriscase; January 09, 2011 at 05:43 PM.

    Why is it that mysteries are always about something bad? You never hear there's a mystery, and then it's like, "Who made cookies?"
    - Demetri Martin

  7. #7

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    If the love interest has true love feelings for any of the three, then that will win through. Usually there is a process involved where at first there is no love as such but the early buds of it, and the person with the choices will go around all three options until one stands out amongst the others. Sometimes they will swap around even on an intimate level but as they do pressures will arise for them to make the choice ~ some will feel hurt and let down etc. more often than not one person will gain a [perceived] second love interest to force the issue and be rejected or accepted.

    There are many reasons why one may be picked over another, but generally I would step right out of the situation as they nearly always get messy [not in a good way]. There will always arise 1 on 1 situations where the option is to take or not to take and without all the confusion.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

  8. #8
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles



    Just think: What would Wilt do?

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Sex them all and jump out of a sinking ship.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  9. #9
    Elfdude's Avatar Tribunus
    Patrician Citizen

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Usa
    Posts
    7,335

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Naw, this isn't personal advice. It's more a theoretical observation of love triangles. I'd never honestly factored their possibilities in.

  10. #10
    CamilleBonparte's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    California, United States
    Posts
    1,097

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Seems straightforward to me. If the LI has only ever been interested in being friends there's no reason for them to change that up and choose one as a romantic partner. Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation here.
    "If History is deprived of the truth, we are left with nothing but an idle, unprofitable tale." - Polybius
    [/COLOR][/COLOR]

  11. #11
    chriscase's Avatar Chairman Miao
    Civitate Patrician

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    5,732

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Quote Originally Posted by elfdude View Post
    Naw, this isn't personal advice. It's more a theoretical observation of love triangles. I'd never honestly factored their possibilities in.
    But what you are describing isn't really a love triangle. It's got 4 people in it.

    Why is it that mysteries are always about something bad? You never hear there's a mystery, and then it's like, "Who made cookies?"
    - Demetri Martin

  12. #12
    Elfdude's Avatar Tribunus
    Patrician Citizen

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Usa
    Posts
    7,335

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    I thought it complicated things a bit. If one person says after the second one then maybe you can still factor it in but when you add a third person who doesn't speak up but it's been clear what their interest is it confuses things again.

  13. #13
    Viking Prince's Avatar Horrible(ly cute)
    Patrician

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Colorado, USA
    Posts
    18,577

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    It is normal for the love interest to have suitors. It is also reasonable for the love interest to not wish to harm any relationship. The process will continue until it is obvious to the love interest that there is an obvious decison to be made. Time will work this out. Perhaps a suitor or two will discover a new love interest and solve the problem for the LI. The only real danger is to force a solution on the problem rather than let time play a factor.
    Grandson of Silver Guard, son of Maverick, and father to Mr MM|Rebel6666|Beer Money |bastard stepfather to Ferrets54
    The Scriptorium is looking for great articles. Don't be bashful, we can help with the formatting and punctuation. I am only a pm away to you becoming a published author within the best archive of articles around.
    Post a challenge and start a debate
    Garb's Fight Club - the Challenge thread






    .


    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    Weighing into threads with the steel capped boots on just because you disagree with my viewpoints, is just embarrassing.

















    Quote Originally Posted by Hagar_the_Horrible
    As you journey through life take a minute every now and then to give a thought for the other fellow. He could be plotting something.


  14. #14
    Poach's Avatar Civitate
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    26,766

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    It would seem, Elfdude, you have created an impossible situation. One person has 3 suitors, and all 4 are friends.

    To pick any of the three would destroy the group, as the 2 failed suitors would be bitter towards the third and the love interest also.

    It would seem the least damaging option would be to state to all three, at once, that his only interest is friendship and that, for the good of the group, he cannot be with any of them for the sake of the rest.

  15. #15
    Sir Winston Churchill's Avatar Vicarius Provinciae
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    New York, USA
    Posts
    11,515

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Polygamy. Solves all love triangles/squares and if everyone can agree on it it stays moral.

    Links to any anti-developer or anti-publisher campaigns are not tolerated on these forums. Any such links will be removed and (most probably) the poster of the link banned.... Please be advised that any information uploaded or transmitted by visitors to Sega becomes the property of Sega. Sega reserves the right to... modify... or delete any of this information at any time and for any reason without notice.
    — CA trying to prevent dissent on their forums
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalminar View Post
    My statements are correct by virtue of me saying them. Additional proof is not required.

  16. #16
    Himster's Avatar Praeses
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Dublin, The Peoples Republic of Ireland
    Posts
    9,838

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Polygamy is having one wife too many, monogamy is the same.
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are so certain of themselves, but wiser people are full of doubts.
    -Betrand Russell

  17. #17

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Hookers. Solves all pairs, squares, circles and/or other geometrically shaped relationships, and if all parties can agree on it, it stays moral.

  18. #18

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Love is inherently illogical and emotionally driven. Your first issue in solving this conundrum is that you are trying to apply a logical decision to the issue.
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  19. #19
    Elfdude's Avatar Tribunus
    Patrician Citizen

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Usa
    Posts
    7,335

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Love is inherently illogical and emotionally driven. Your first issue in solving this conundrum is that you are trying to apply a logical decision to the issue.
    Is it possible in your mind to fall in love with more than one person?

  20. #20
    Himster's Avatar Praeses
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Dublin, The Peoples Republic of Ireland
    Posts
    9,838

    Default Re: Morality and Love Triangles

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Love is inherently illogical and emotionally driven. Your first issue in solving this conundrum is that you are trying to apply a logical decision to the issue.
    Yup, love is inherently illogical and emotionally driven, and occasionally love (or what we percieve as love) leads us down paths that are not social norms in our individual cultures. In these cases the issue has to be carefully considered logically so as to avoid social stigma and persecution (or even murdered, in some cultures).
    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are so certain of themselves, but wiser people are full of doubts.
    -Betrand Russell

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •