FULL PREVIEW of "Call of Warhammer" v. 1.4. (see in first post)

[Klierowski]

Yea Karion is right ... Orc Warrior is much bigger and stronger than Normal human ... his whole life is a war - Black orc is so skilled and strong (also stupid...) as Chaos warrior .

[Mikail Mengsk]

wow not justified?? so you are saying that a ork have the same resistance of a normal human? that is a bit fail in my opinion. that you can't fight them doesn't mean the same for rest of us, so stop with this ''omg orks are tough, nerf them now'' what is next nerf chaos stacks to a single one?

Did you even know Warhammer Fantasy, the tabletop game on which this entire mod is based upon? I think NOT.

In "reality" Orcs have Thoughness 4, just as Dwarves and Grave Guards. They all have 1 HP. 2 HPs are for more-than-human-size creatures, like Ogres, Trolls, and heroes.

ALSO, for gameplay's sake, in Total War series 2 HP is for elite units, not for ordinary units. So, it's good for Big'unz and Black Orcs, not for Orc Boys and even archers, that are the weakest of orcs by background. Why? Because 2 HPs are serious business, they counts very much both in autoresolve and in battle, and are justified only for elite and very very expensive units.

Skilled "normal" warriors have high attack and charge bonus (ehy, look, just as in tabletop game, how curious...), not more HPs. Add more of these and back to 1 HP is both more realistic and more gameplay-wise, that's why (apparently) the modding team does it. If they did, I support their decision. If they didn't, i'll do it myself just like i did for the current version.



Lurk moar.

[Tyraels]

I would like to say that a riffle shot in the face ..or a sword in your stomach..is often killing you (or hurt you a lot) in all the time . The tall or the weight ,even the strenght are not important here...the result will be the same for a human of 1m80 for 70 kilos or for an Orc of 2m10 and 140 kilos !

1 hp is not a problem i guess .

[Karion]

eh since when this mod follow the TT rules mengsk?? oh right never!!
why for you 2hp mean so much problem anyway?? that not sttoped me and most of us in defeat large number of orks
they dont have a high morale, his general is death and they lost no matter the number or hp

[Martin von Carstein]

they dont have a high morale, his general is death and they lost no matter the number or hp

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Orcs flee practically only in the face of fire. In the melee morale are far enough - run away one whom more will weaken, the party which "densely" rains.

And this general must first kill. And I assure everyone - this is no easy task.

Plowing with 2HP very hard to kill (especially in multi). Falls into such a body per unit of pikemen / halberdiers / armed and what? Destroy them - unless the Imperial will receive support. And we are talking only about orc boyz.

1hp is absolutely correct. Why? Because strength, vitality orcs gain with time. The skin hardens orcs. Orc Boyz are young orcs on track. The fact that this species is characterized by long life, but without exaggeration - orc orc uneven. Let the Orcs will have great strength, but poor resistance.

Following the reasoning of some - how many hit points should be undead? If you can not revive during battle, which was standard practice, and the destruction of the horde of undead was a difficult task ...

[IrishBlood]

guys, arguing on the internet over something you have no control over (e.g the fact that unit stats are decided by the team), is completly pointless!

[hick09]

stop this off-topic discussion please otherwise thread will be temporarily closed

[Martin von Carstein]

IrishBlood

So let's change the subject

Vampire Counts

• Hell hound and vampire wolfs
• Dark knights
• Black Grail knights
• Wraiths

Missing a few individuals. I understand that the words
And some others units

There are necromancers, etc.?

Please - Just answer "yes" or "no".

[hick09]

There are necromancers

yes

[Werebear]

yes

no. necrarchs

[Martin von Carstein]

Necromancer, necrarch - One dog...

Thanks for answer

[paradamed]

I believe the team forgot to add some of the units previewed in this thread. All the units in the grand preview will be in the next patch.

[Benha1]

got a question is 1.4 is a stand alone version or just a small patch?

[Russian Gondor]

got a question is 1.4 is a stand alone version or just a small patch?

I'm guessing patch but you have to re-name folder to CoW

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Stand alone

[Mathurian]

good...hopefully stand alone will give ema fresh start and help fix some CTD.

[Mr. Sorrow]

Stand alone

Since nearly all factions were revamped... I call it near 2.0...

[Mikail Mengsk]

If most of the bugs has been fixed, i'll say 2.0 too.

[Mathurian]

Yeah, realistically with th eamount of material that has been added, it could easily justify being 2.0

[Himster]

Will there be von carstein looking models this time rather than just blood dragons?