WW1 RESEARCH THREAD **QUOTES NEEDED**

[dule82]

Serbian army was very important army in WWI war !
It was composed of units of the "First Call" (men aged from 21 to 31 years) and "second call" (men aged 32 to 37 years) are organized in the People's Army,
and a 'final defense' (men aged 18 to 20 and 46 to 50 years) whose units were on the Garrison and guard duty.
Volunteers recruited to Army-in-exile 1916 onwards: 15–20,000
Serbian army was made of battle hardened veterans of First and Second Balkan war which allowed it to defeat several times numerically superior Austro-hungarian force.

Here are some info ,pictures ,uniforms, and movies:

Info:
http://www.vojska.net/eng/world-war-...nization/1914/
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/kingdom-of-serbia-facts

King Petar guard unit
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...garda_1901.jpg

Cavarly
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...i_puk_1918.jpg

Firts call Infantry in period 1912-1915
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2672/64090868yn7.jpg

Engeneers 1912-1915
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1272/30886468mf5.jpg

Infantry
http://www.graingersmodels.co.uk/sto...Serb%20Inf.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...i_puk_1918.jpg

Infantry 1st Lieutenant with Sabre and medail
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...Lieutenant.jpg

Lieutenant
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...w1porucnik.png

Colonels and Generals
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...vnici_1911.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neral_1897.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ww1general.png

Serbian major 1915
http://www.singidunum-online.com/sho...ges/j01585.jpg

Cavalry and artillery private 1912-1915
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5245/84653633gq4.jpg

Serbian artillery 1914
http://i43.tinypic.com/mh3hau.jpg

Serbian WWI soldier in Imperial War Museum, London
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1152/10001994yz.jpg

Weapons and helmets Serbian
Rifles (Mosin-Nagant, Steyr-Mannlicher M1895, Berdan rifle, Serbian and Turkish Mauser rifles)
Machine Guns (Maxim Gun, Schwazlose MG M.07/12, Chauchat)
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/v...tenegro001.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...Royal_Army.jpg
http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/FM%20...at-VD-WEB2.JPG
http://www.old-print.com/mas_assets/...671918108A.jpg
http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/yugos...sb/yugadr1.jpg
http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/yugos...b/yugadr1b.jpg
http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/yugos...sb/yugmme2.jpg
http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/yugos...sb/serbww1.jpg
http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/...retreat_01.jpg
http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/...tillery_01.jpg

Uniforms,equipment,hats
http://www.srpskoblago.org/art-galle...=538&g2_page=3
http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=157658
http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=157660
http://minornationsmilitaries.devhub...yukycucykt.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2gwxpus.jpg
http://www.landships.freeservers.com...ifs_in_ww1.htm
http://www.mycity-military.com/slika...ian%20army.png
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...picID=14915195

Field Grade Officer HAT and badge
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8030115_n.jpg
http://www.jkmilitaria.com/Ser/Ser-33.JPG
http://www.emedals.ca/catalog.asp?item=S357#bigPic
http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01...6270871298.jpg

UNIT
KNJAZ MILOSH INFANTRY
on Macedonian front in French uniforms, 1916.
After re-organization of Serbian Army on Corfu 1916, Serbian Army received French uniforms. The new element in those uniforms was helmet.
It was like French helmet with Serbian two-headed eagles on it. Beside the helmet, soldiers continued to wear traditional Serbian heat 'shajkachas'.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4886/45949507gb7.jpg

UNIT
KING PETER INFANTRY
new uniforms 1918
http://www.srpskoblago.org/art-gallery/?g2_itemId=590

UNIT
IRON REGIMENT
in Serbian: 'GVOZDENI PUK'
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...145130_495.jpg

UNIT
HAJDUK VELJKO INFANTRY
http://www.srpskoblago.org/art-gallery/?g2_itemId=556

UNIT
MILOSH OBRENOVIC CAVALRY
http://www.srpskoblago.org/art-gallery/?g2_itemId=574

KING, GENERALS ...

King Peter I Karageorgevich (1844-1921)
(Kralj Petar Karađorđević)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_THHAOkJ84L...r+portrait.JPG
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunnybrook100/2496843446/

King Peter I around 1916 with beard in mourning for his enslaved Serbia and victims
http://www.dijaspora.ch/images/small...album/3/13.jpg

regent Alexander Karageorgevich (1988-1934) supreme commander
(Aleksandar Karađorđević) second son of King Peter of Serbia, later he became king himself.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunnybr...n/photostream/
http://www.dijaspora.ch/images/small...ialbum/1/7.jpg
http://www.klubmonarhista.rs/wp-cont...009/06/ak2.jpg

Prime minister Nikola Pasic (Nikola Pašić 1845-1926)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...la_Pasic_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...00petruoft.png

Zivojin Misic (Živojin Mišić 1855-1921)
Vojvoda (Field Marshal) and the most successful Serbian commander who participated in all Serbia's wars from 1876 to 1918.
http://www.kosovo.net/misic.jpg
http://img3067.imagevenue.com/images..._122_240lo.jpg
http://commondatastorage.googleapis....l/28072086.jpg

Radomir Putnik (1847-1917)
'Vojvoda Putnik' was legendary Serbian Field Marshal (vojvoda) and Chief of General Staff in the Balkan Wars and World War I, and took part in all wars that Serbia waged from 1876 to 1917.
In command of Serbian 3rd army.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunnybr...n/photostream/
http://img3067.imagevenue.com/images...7_122_32lo.jpg

Stepa Stepanovic (1856-1929)
was a field marshal (vojvoda) of the Serbian Army and in command of Serbian 2nd army
http://www.srpskadijaspora.info/imag...080929_1_1.jpg
http://www.vucjak.com/images/photoal...stepanovic.jpg
http://www.vucjak.com/images/photoal...7/ststepan.jpg

Petar Bojovic (1958-1945)
vojvoda (field-marshal) in Balkan Wars and World War I , in command of Serbian 1st army.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1...lika185371.jpg
http://www.dijaspora.ch/images/small...ialbum/4/8.jpg

Pavle Jurisic Sturm (Pavle Jurišić Šturm 1848-1922)
was a Serbian general of Sorbian origin who commanded the Serbian 3rd Army in the WW1.
http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/z...rm_500x500.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...88;м.JPG
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/574...sicsturmsm6.jp

Vukoman Aracic (Vukoman Aračić 1850-1915)
was a division general in WWI
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...omanAracic.jpg

Mihailo Zivkovic , general defending capital Belgrade
http://img2.imagetitan.com/img.php?i...vicmihajlo.jpg

Milos Bozanovic (1863-1922) general of Uzice army at the start of WW1
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sBozanovic.JPG

Vojin Popovic (1881-1916) known as Vojvoda Vuk was a Serbian Chetnik Vojvoda
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...VojvodaVuk.jpg


Serbian War Flags
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5yC7rBE51K...03986+copy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5yC7rBE51K...ave+3+copy.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5yC7rBE51K...03980+copy.jpg
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/rs_k%5Ea.html

IN ACTION
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rs_in_I_WW.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._near_Nish.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...u1916-1918.jpg
http://www.greatwar.nl/children/serven.jpg
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/334...347052288BB462


Famous sentences
Zivojin Misic ,one of the greatest military comandant of Europe in that time
"Go even to death, but don't stop going forward !"
“Boldly press forward, without rest, to the utter limits of the human and horse strength. To death, just don’t stop! With the unwavering faith and hope: Heroes, forward! to the fatherland!”

French General Franchet d’Espérey, Commander-in-Chief of the Allied troops in WWI:
“These Serbs are tough in trouble, sober, modest, unbreakable. They are the free men, proud of their nation and the masters of their fields… For the freedom of their homeland these peasants instantly turned into the most courageous soldiers, the most persistent, the best of all soldiers,”

Nikola Pasic , prime minister
“We have lost everything , but we managed to keep are honour“

regent Alexander,
“Forward ! In glory or death !!“

August von Mackensen, German general and commander talking of Serbian army,
“We fought against the army that we heard only in fairy tales“

Wilhelm II, German emperor
“Pity that this small Serbian people is not my ally!“

Winston Churchill,minister of British navy
“As for Serbia, she realy fought desperatly and glorious, with terrible consequences for them selfs ...“

vojvoda Stepa Stepanovic after liberation of Serbia
"The Holy Land of our fatherland - was cleared of the enemy, and his blood - poured all the places that was desecrated by their filthy foot!"

VIDEOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eODLtDz4IM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Qc8...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osHNf...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH4Rj...5D7A9AF862C057

UPDATED !!!

Also continue reading on next post...

[dule82]

I hope someone will read this and all I posted on previous page also


Just to add one more thing...

Serbian army forces in WWI

* Detachment of Obrenovac
7th company troop, second call
10th personnel regiment

* I. Army - General Zivojin Misic
Morava Division II Call - Colonel Ljubomir Milic
Danube Division I Call - Colonel Milivoje Andjelkovic Kajafa
Danube Division II calls - Colonel Milos Vasic
Maljenska Detachment

* II. Army - Vojvoda Stepa Stepanovic
Cavalry Division - Colonel Branko Jovanovic
Šumadijska Division, I call - General Djoka Mihajlovic
Timok Division, I call - General Vladimir Kondic
Morava Division, I call - General Ilija Gojkovic

* III. Army - General Pavle Jurisic Sturm
Drina Division, II Call - Colonel Dragutin Dimitrijevic - Apis
Mixed Division - General Mihailo Rasic
Drina Division I call - General Milos Vasic
Timok Division II Call - Colonel Ivan Pavlovic

* Army of Uzice - General Vukoman Aracic
Uzice Brigade - Colonel Djuro Dokic
Sumadijska Division II Call - Colonel Dragutin Milutinovic

* Defense of capitol Belgrade - General Mihailo Zivkovic




Allied with Serbia was also Montenegro (Crna Gora) ,that later unified with Serbia,
with their small and poorest equipped of all armies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Montenegro
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/king...ntenegro-facts
http://www.vojska.net/eng/world-war-...nization/1914/
http://translate.google.com/translat...-svetskom-ratu
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rosoldiers.jpg
http://www.chakoten.dk/plancher/ruhl3/ip10.jpg
King Nikola Petrovic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sunnybr...n/photostream/
http://www.montenegro-canada.com/i//..._-_portret.jpg
General Bozidar Jankovic (1849-1920)
http://www.nacionalnarevija.com/imag...20Jankovic.jpg


Famous sentences

King Nikola I Petrovic
"Black and yellow flag, which since ancient times has pressured our people, raised so much that now it want to completely destroy and run over free people of Serbia and Montenegro...
Heroes will follow steps of our two kings, so that we can perish and shed blood for the unity and our golden freedom ...
We wanted peace, and war is forced upon us. "
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[Piledriver2311]

Is it at all possible to add more garrisonable barriers on campaign battle fields? early in the war on the western front, and the eastern front, stone fences, hay bails, and other things that offered cover were used as machine gun, or other batallion strong points to thwart attacks. If not, custom battle maps with these would be great.

[hoplite9]

Yeah, specific units had similar uniform. But the regular infantry adopted a tan khaki uniform w/ adrian helmet. it was similar to the british uniform. Though, elite units had the more fanciful uniform.

In the second world war, not the first.

[Piledriver2311]

Any thoughts (developers) on adding Armenian troops for the Russians? Many Armenian bands took up arms, working with the Russians on the russian turkish front.

[Piledriver2311]

More ottoman uniforms for Sama and friends!

The first image is three ottoman uniforms of various types, the first is an officer (notice the fur covered fez) the second is a regular of the army, late in the war, most likley late 1917. the last is unknown to me, i suspect its kurdish infantry though.

the second image is another example of a regular uniform, late in the war.

The third, is a uniform of an Isralie, Jewish infantryman, confirming what (sama) said about riflemen wearing fez's.

The fourth (sama) is the uniform you and I talked about, and is totally unrelated to the ottoman army.

[General Grievous]

I am very interested in your wotk, and if you need some help, i have an huge book of the WW1 with a lot of pictures and informations.

if you need some pictures, i can give you the ones there are in my book. (french, germans, russians and britishes generals... pictures of battles, and some weapons/ships/planes...)

tell me if you need something i could have!

[King Sama]

Announcement:

Due to modding developments, we are now in need of both specific factional units and general factional information. So if you have any unit you'd like to be included, or if you just want to contribute, on any roster, please speak up Rep will be given to anyone who helps us out.

I have looked through the thread for existing information. Keep in mind that for this, while uniforms are appreciated and would be helpful along with units, I am looking mainly for units in this case.

PS. if anyone wants to take up the considerable task of managing a research thread (collecting all the info and organizing it in an OP), please pm me

[dule82]

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[Achea]

More Canadian units (like the infiltration battalion I remember you talking about Sama) would be a welcome addition. I posted my ideas a while back here.

EDIT: Here is a picture, though they would have looked like their British counterparts save regimental markings and a maple leaf pin.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Piledriver2311]

More Canadian units (like the infiltration battalion I remember you talking about Sama) would be a welcome addition. I posted my ideas a while back here.

Do you have a picture for an example in uniform?

[jorkka]

Announcement:

Due to modding developments, we are now in need of both specific factional units and general factional information. So if you have any unit you'd like to be included, or if you just want to contribute, on any roster, please speak up Rep will be given to anyone who helps us out.

Will there be Finland emergent faction? Just one word, and I will give you all info you've ever wanted (and some you don't) about first years of Finnish nation and its army.

[King Sama]

Will there be Finland emergent faction? Just one word, and I will give you all info you've ever wanted (and some you don't) about first years of Finnish nation and its army.

Yep Unless Mitch has had a change of plans.

[Piledriver2311]

Yep Unless Mitch has had a change of plans.

Me wonders if there will be a finland campaign. Seems to be alot of Fins in the forum.

[King Sama]

Actually, turns out Finland has not been specifically planned, so it remains to be seen if it is included, depending on various things. We'll let you know.

[Piledriver2311]

Actually, turns out Finland has not been specifically planned, so it remains to be seen if it is included, depending on various things. We'll let you know.

Im currently gathering images to put onto photobucket, and update this OP.

Also, sama im not too sure, but I think swedens troops at the time wore tricorn style hats, I believe there is a picture of one here on the forum, someone posted it awhile back. On the subject of scandanavian troops.

[Icey Fresh Werewolf]

Hello folks. It's been quite a while, hasn't it?

I am very sorry about the sudden inactivity. Things happened, and I found myself slowly separating from these forums. I've come back however, and I plan to contribute more information tomorrow. It makes me happy to see that my thread is still in use.

[Piledriver2311]

[QUOTE=Achea;8901960]More Canadian units (like the infiltration battalion I remember you talking about Sama) would be a welcome addition. I posted my ideas a while back here.

EDIT: Here is a picture, though they would have looked like their British counterparts save regimental markings and a maple leaf pin.

Are you sure thats an infiltration unit? I noticed the vickers there... that would be a two to three person gun. Not very suitable for infiltrating.

[King Sama]

[QUOTE=Cassador de evora;8921552]

More Canadian units (like the infiltration battalion I remember you talking about Sama) would be a welcome addition. I posted my ideas a while back here.

EDIT: Here is a picture, though they would have looked like their British counterparts save regimental markings and a maple leaf pin.

Are you sure thats an infiltration unit? I noticed the vickers there... that would be a two to three person gun. Not very suitable for infiltrating.

Yeah, it wa svery clear that the some of the first british infiltration units were specially trained canadians, ofc, not all of the canadian soldiers were infiltrators.

[Achea]

Whoops, sorry about that. It wasn't supposed to be an infiltration battalion, it was just a uniform picture, because that is what I thought you wanted.