Research Request
Could you guys find some pics of trench knives for various nations?
These are bayonets and Fighting Knives of The Western Front. I couldn't find any for Italy.
US
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Great Britain
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France
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Germany
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That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden
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Trench knifes.. didn't the soldiers from both sides agreed the used the shovels ?
Not sure about that but i'm sure shovels where more used then the knifes.
They basically used whatever they could get ahold of, they also custom made trench clubs that were pretty brutal.
Heres a few of them at the bottom...
Ottoman Bayonets
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now i dont speak turkish, but the number on the bayonet in arabic would be 1325
actually wait, no i know what it is, it is the Islamic Year of Make, 1325 A.H
if it was arabic, it would say Faiz Baqari... not sure what/who that is
Last edited by panzer 4; November 02, 2011 at 08:51 AM.
The US will gladly step up to become the world police when there is oil involved, yet they will resign the second there is a genocide in Africa, a slaughter in an allied nation, or a massacre committed by dictators, all who's nations have nothing to offer, but the gratitude of the people to the international community for reaching out.
Is it possible that some soldiers have let say a sword an other a bayonet and one other a shovel ? then you create some diversity.
funny thing is, if the Nizam Reforms didnt take place in 1826, the ottomans would not have used bayonets.
The US will gladly step up to become the world police when there is oil involved, yet they will resign the second there is a genocide in Africa, a slaughter in an allied nation, or a massacre committed by dictators, all who's nations have nothing to offer, but the gratitude of the people to the international community for reaching out.
I need to ask where the hell are you from ? Guess immigrated cause you english seems fine and that isn't the case for many middle eastern people, i would guess you're in the mid 30 cause you know more then the average teenager or 20 year old though you are studding what would conclude my final judgment to around 23-35.
Also i can conclude it cause in you're stories when talking of you're father i can conclude that or he is dead or "very" old by now.
And you're not from Turkey cause you cant speak Turkish. Well Israel it's certainly not. Syria could be but with the current tentions there i thought the internet was restricted. Well in Libya you would be busy fighting, Tunisia i really doubt. leaving Marokko, though again thats not a former ottoman state so that isn't you're homeland. My best guess at the moment is A you're immigrated or B you come from Yemen or United Arab Emirates.
That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden
yep, you got me, i am currently living in iraq and i crucify all infidels as part of my Jund'Allah training and plant IED's on dogs that run under american tanks to pop them open. i also have the intention of exporting Communism to all foreign countries and have no remorse at killing civilians as they died while getting in the greater good's cause
(PS. not my father, its my Great Grandfather )
The US will gladly step up to become the world police when there is oil involved, yet they will resign the second there is a genocide in Africa, a slaughter in an allied nation, or a massacre committed by dictators, all who's nations have nothing to offer, but the gratitude of the people to the international community for reaching out.
Interesting that’d you ask about that. I did that research for the Verdun Online project a few years ago.
You want to know specifically about trench knives and daggers right, not bayonets, clubs, knobkerries, machetes, shovels, etc..?
Here’s a breakdown of trench daggers and knives used in the Great War. Some countries are missing, but that’s because I don’t have reliable information about them and don’t want to make things up.
Austria-Hungary
Belgium
British Empire and United Kingdom
Dutch
France
German Empire
Italy
Romania
United States
Erm.. no.. None of those are clubs.
Those are all stick grenades and "petard-raquette", improvised grenades made from explosives attached to a plank.
Last edited by don_Durandal; November 02, 2011 at 08:48 AM. Reason: reply
British ones tended to be broken bayonets that were shortened. Or sometimes just left broken (nastier that way). The preference for clubs (most of which resembled rounders bats with various additions) stems from one of the main functions of trench raids: intelligence gathering through the capture of prisoners. A knife to the abdomen tends to not to be conducive to the taken of live prisoners. That said, many trench clubs were a tad unpleasant - barbed wire wrapped around them, nails driven through them, hobnail smacked into them, etc., all the sorts of things required to remove a boches face...
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REQUEST:
I need some pics of German and British sniper scopes.
For British i need the one used with the Lee Enfield and for the Germans the one for the Mauser.
Here's the standard British one, manufactured by the Periscopic Prism Co. About half those produced in 1916 were of this type. Prior to that, it was a case of "whatever" - sporting Ross's were commonly used for the purpose. By 1918, the standardised British sniper rifle was based on the P14 - as such, this is your best bet