Lose due to victory conditions that haven't been fulfilled

[scubatim84]

So I've been trying to play my German campaign, and the next turn keeps claiming I failed to achieve the victory conditions without any explanation and it will only give me the option to return to the main menu. I had two settlements, both were green, happy and public order was over 100%. The only thing I can think of is the obvious fact that one empire got big enough to satisfy the victory conditions and thus end the game. However, the reason I think this is a bug is because in vanilla RTW you had the option to continue playing if someone else beat you to it and/or you reached 14 AD without fulfilling them yourself.

[Pinkie Pie]

short campaign or long campaign conditions?

[DimeBagHo]

If you were down to two regions is their any chance that your family died out? Assassinations perhaps?

[scubatim84]

Sorry, should have specified. It was not a short campaign and no assassinations. If a family member died, it should have notified me under faction announcements and there wasn't anything about that. Even if a family member did die and it pissed off the people, it would have rioted first and it didn't. If all the family members died, shouldn't it have gone to horde status again anyway before it declared that I lost?

[Pinkie Pie]

im pretty sure a faction cant horde if it has no family members

[scubatim84]

im pretty sure a faction cant horde if it has no family members

Well, even so, I should have been able to since all of my family members didn't die. I think I did get a message that the faction leader died, but I had another family member in another settlement so that shouldn't have been a problem. I'll see if I can find a way to post my saved game.

Edited to add: I checked, I already overwrote the game files unfortunately. The settings I was using, since that may at least be helpful, was as follows:

Version 5.9.13? (it was the version directly before 5.9.15)
Using BI.exe
Land bridges off
AI bonuses on
Fatigue on
Faster movement on

[Pinkie Pie]

the only thing i can think of is that you made a mistake and you had no family members left
if you didnt without the save file it will be difficult to find out what caused it

[Hopit]

or your family member was a general

[scubatim84]

or your family member was a general

I think Hopit has the most reasonable explanation. I did train several generals and there's no way to tell the difference unless you mouse over or right click on them. Well, at any rate, is there a way to change the victory conditions? I wouldn't mind adjusting them just to make sure that doesn't happen again.

[Pinkie Pie]

isnt his explanation the same as mine? (you made a mistake and had no family members left)
and i dont think there is a way to stop the game ending when you lose your last family member

[scubatim84]

isnt his explanation the sdame as mine? (you made a mistake and had no family members left)
and i dont think there is a way to stop the game ending when you lose your last family member

First of all, why does it matter? Were you looking for kudos or a gold star instead of genuinely wanting to help? Secondly, he actually pointed out why there may have been no family members left. If a mechanic comes and tells me my car is broken, that mechanic is completely useless to me as I already knew that, hence why I took it to the shop. If he tells me why my car is broken so I can get the car fixed, then he actually helped me. Anyone can tell someone they made a mistake without providing an explanation, evidence or solution....that's what the distinction is.

Anyway, as far as modifying the victory conditions goes, I'm pretty sure this can be done, since obviously it was edited for the mod. Any ideas on what file I would need to change?

[Pinkie Pie]

the victory conditions can be edited but not the victory condition that caused the game to end as that would have been due to no family members