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    i mis the belgium units please mod belgium we have great history and are famous for our great fighting skill please heres movie about belgium royal guards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT2eWmm9Ap4

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    man I would LOVE to see a belgium specific mod I LOVE playing as them in Total Factions (they are separate from United Netherlands and Batavian Republic)

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    This unit was raised in 1938 after the Belgian cavalry lost its horses due to the motorisation, it was named the "Royal Escort"

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    If you rad this:
    i am gathering people for an mod that would be called like:minor factions.
    this will unlock some minor faction.this factions will be:Belgium,switzerland and some others.so the belgians will be comming.if u wanna help then u can just post what u wanna be and u name.
    GREETS
    and btw do u live in belgium???me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrit1919 View Post
    If you rad this:
    i am gathering people for an mod that would be called like:minor factions.
    this will unlock some minor faction.this factions will be:Belgium,switzerland and some others.so the belgians will be comming.if u wanna help then u can just post what u wanna be and u name.
    GREETS
    and btw do u live in belgium???me too
    ireland or scotland BUT add more units , they have so little of a choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by killer459 View Post
    i mis the belgium units please mod belgium we have great history and are famous for our great fighting skill please heres movie about belgium royal guards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT2eWmm9Ap4
    the belgian army is probably the most failed in Europe, a reason why our speciality nowadays is non-combat linked (field kitchens and de-mining).
    Our fighting skill is laughable, the quality of our soldier was and is low and the only great divisions are the cyclists (soldiers on bikes..oh dear) and the Ardennois Jäger, not even close in time to the napoleonic era, not even close in terms of decent force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxandrius View Post
    the belgian army is probably the most failed in Europe, a reason why our speciality nowadays is non-combat linked (field kitchens and de-mining).
    Our fighting skill is laughable, the quality of our soldier was and is low and the only great divisions are the cyclists (soldiers on bikes..oh dear) and the Ardennois Jäger, not even close in time to the napoleonic era, not even close in terms of decent force.
    I don't know where you get your information but let me assure you that the armed forces of Belgium are no laughing matter.
    We receive nothing but praise around the world for our troops. I know that the Belgian army has a bad reputation (scandals and corruption among other things) but to discard them entirely?
    I'm pretty sure the average Belgian soldier is better trained and motivated than the average American soldier. I'm not a soldier and have never been in the army but I know plenty who are and if they heard you say the were poor quality soldiers...
    A more direct response: what is wrong with a specialty in field kitchens? An army marches on its stomach, as the saying goes. And we are pretty much world leaders in the clearing of sea and land mines.
    Please don't discard those soldiers without any knowledge of the matter at hand. You do them an enormous injustice.
    This is not a personal criticism but I hope you might one day think differently of the Belgian army.

    PS: what on earth makes you think demining is non-combat linked??

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    I'm pretty sure the average Belgian soldier is better trained and motivated than the average American soldier.
    No offense and all but that one really made me aspirate the froth from my ale!...hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boustrophedon View Post
    I don't know where you get your information but let me assure you that the armed forces of Belgium are no laughing matter.
    We receive nothing but praise around the world for our troops. I know that the Belgian army has a bad reputation (scandals and corruption among other things) but to discard them entirely?
    I'm pretty sure the average Belgian soldier is better trained and motivated than the average American soldier. I'm not a soldier and have never been in the army but I know plenty who are and if they heard you say the were poor quality soldiers...
    A more direct response: what is wrong with a specialty in field kitchens? An army marches on its stomach, as the saying goes. And we are pretty much world leaders in the clearing of sea and land mines.
    Please don't discard those soldiers without any knowledge of the matter at hand. You do them an enormous injustice.
    This is not a personal criticism but I hope you might one day think differently of the Belgian army.

    PS: what on earth makes you think demining is non-combat linked??
    I highly doubt that.
    Firstly: demining is non-combat, or do they shoot those mines?
    It's a process that takes place after the war activity.
    Furthermore, I simply laughed at the great ethos that the OP wanted to give to the belgian army. The modern army is so-so in terms of quality, but no source in the world can prove that we were close to something in the past.

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    who would want to fight belgium in the first place?

    Belgium has spent its years wisely and instead of going through the whole overated 'gettin an empire' thing, they've spent their time pefecting all the necessary stuff like waffles and chocolate, which is a method soon to be deployed in the middle east for peace talks.

    One of Belgium's natural resources is battlefields so nobody can say that they haven't seen a fair share of action anyway.
    However getting back to the topic, I would love to see some more Nassau units and for belgium, prehaps some kind of ex-soldiers from the french army in some form, as many of the soldiers of the belgium army on the battlefield of Waterloo used to follow Napoleon's eagles

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    The only time that the Belgian army was somewhat formidable is roughly the second half of the 19th century. Thanks to industrialisation which gave us funds and technology on parallel with the British land army (though on much smaller scale of course).

    That being said, the modern Belgian infantryman is of roughly the same quality as every other Northern/Western European soldier.
    Some day I'll actually write all the reviews I keep promising...

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    Indeed Tax, and back to OP...really you should look at all the Dutch-Belgian units and maybe consider those that haven't been done before making a 'fantasy unit' that didn't exist then. Just a thought and all..

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    Dude, I just played with Belgium and I destroyed the Batavian Republic and then Napolean invaded me and it was game over. Belgium is a lost cause lol.

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    the army of netherland in 1830 was mostly made of belgians sow you see

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    that's because dutch are military incapable

    No, we have to realise that games NEED the realistic mediocre states.

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    Guys i cant use the mods because when i save the Scripts in Unicode, the game crashes. Scripts can only be saved in ANSI. Any help? tnx. T_T

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    Quote Originally Posted by airborne guy View Post
    Dude, I just played with Belgium and I destroyed the Batavian Republic and then Napolean invaded me and it was game over. Belgium is a lost cause lol.
    Spend the early turns just racking up money until you can buy an alliance with France. Then you can expand east

    I love the belgium army in this game, they are identical to American units of the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxandrius View Post
    that's because dutch are military incapable
    And where the hell do you get that information from?
    And the minesweeping stuff?
    The Belgian navy works together on that with the Royal Netherlands Navy in a co-operation.
    The Belgian Navy doesn`t even perform operations on her own except coastal water defence.
    Neither did the Belgian Army work stand alone in Bosnia i.e. unlike the Royal Netherlands Army.
    I guess you can say the Dutch have some nice history with military capabilities in sea and land warfare in our history, like the Dutch Independence-wars against Spain, the numerous seabattles won by the Dutch in the 3 or 4 wars between England and The Netherlands in the 17th and 18th century. Need to know more?

    Quote Originally Posted by jasper View Post
    the army of netherland in 1830 was mostly made of belgians sow you see
    And what about that story about the major part of the Royal Netherlands Army of 1830 was Belgian (historical accurate: Southern Netherlands)?
    As far as I know about this part of our history, the Northern Netherlands Army was about 3 times larger than the Southern Netherlands Army during the 10 days campaign in 1831.
    The reason why the Northern Netherlands gave up that campaign against the Southern Netherlands rebels, was simply the fact that the British and Prussians requested so, and the Southerners requested help from the French, which where marching towards Brussels. Immagine that, asking your former enemies to help you against the people that helped to liberate you from that former enemy.
    Anyway, only after 1831 there is a state called Belgium, not in the Napoleonic Age.
    So Belgian units didn`t exist at that time before 1831, and so shouldn`t be called "Belgian" units.
    After 1815 there was just the "Kingdom of the Netherlands", which was made up from the Northern Netherlands (nowadays The Netherlands) , the Southern Netherlands (nowadays Belgium), and the colonies in the Carraibian, Surinam and the Netherlands Indies (Republic of Indonesia nowadays).
    After the seperation from the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1831 the Kingdom of Belgium was founded.
    Need more history lessons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Tullius Batavorum View Post
    And where the hell do you get that information from?
    And the minesweeping stuff?
    The Belgian navy works together on that with the Royal Netherlands Navy in a co-operation.
    The Belgian Navy doesn`t even perform operations on her own except coastal water defence.
    Neither did the Belgian Army work stand alone in Bosnia i.e. unlike the Royal Netherlands Army.
    I guess you can say the Dutch have some nice history with military capabilities in sea and land warfare in our history, like the Dutch Independence-wars against Spain, the numerous seabattles won by the Dutch in the 3 or 4 wars between England and The Netherlands in the 17th and 18th century. Need to know more?



    And what about that story about the major part of the Royal Netherlands Army of 1830 was Belgian (historical accurate: Southern Netherlands)?
    As far as I know about this part of our history, the Northern Netherlands Army was about 3 times larger than the Southern Netherlands Army during the 10 days campaign in 1831.
    The reason why the Northern Netherlands gave up that campaign against the Southern Netherlands rebels, was simply the fact that the British and Prussians requested so, and the Southerners requested help from the French, which where marching towards Brussels. Immagine that, asking your former enemies to help you against the people that helped to liberate you from that former enemy.
    Anyway, only after 1831 there is a state called Belgium, not in the Napoleonic Age.
    So Belgian units didn`t exist at that time before 1831, and so shouldn`t be called "Belgian" units.
    After 1815 there was just the "Kingdom of the Netherlands", which was made up from the Northern Netherlands (nowadays The Netherlands) , the Southern Netherlands (nowadays Belgium), and the colonies in the Carraibian, Surinam and the Netherlands Indies (Republic of Indonesia nowadays).
    After the seperation from the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1831 the Kingdom of Belgium was founded.
    Need more history lessons?
    I take it you are mad?

    honestly, one can never make the argument that one soldier is better than another, their successes and failures are more or less something out of luck and leadership.

    Also, more units is always welcome, I would like to see new units for belgium if any one is willing to make some

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    I'm pretty sure the average Belgian soldier is better trained and motivated than the average American soldier.
    Blashpemy.
    Last edited by JustCallMeKing; February 14, 2011 at 08:52 PM.

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