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    Hey all,


    I'm trying to compile a list of the muskets and rifles used by the various armies of the period.

    So far

    British:
    Brown Bess (Short Land Service)
    Long Land Service Musket
    India Pattern Musket
    Baker Rifle

    French:
    Model 1777
    Dragoon Musket (is the the model 1777 carbine?)
    Carabine de Versaille (form of rifle?)

    Russian:
    India Pattern Musket (imported for their best troops)
    "Tula" Musket (regular issue Russian musket manufactured in Tula, couldn't find a model name...)


    Austrian:
    1807 Pattern Jager Rifle
    I also read that jagers frequently made their own rifles, I was wondering how these fit in...

    Prussian:
    1787 Pattern Rifle
    Alte Corpsbuche Rifle


    Any information that could add to or ammend/improve this list would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

    Any other information about calibers, cannon, pistols etc would also be welcome.

    Note: This information will be in part going into the new release of Le Premier Empire 2.0
    Last edited by richardsharpe; August 28, 2010 at 03:53 PM.

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    According to Haythornwaithe's "Weapons & Equipment of the Napoleonic Wars" - copy at http://www.scribd.com/doc/14597569/W...apoleonic-Wars

    To French muskets add:
    Year IX pattern (modified 1777) - the Guard used this but with brass fittings.
    Year XIII Pattern - more commonly known as "Charleville" after one of the chief factories producing firearms.

    Hussars used Year XIII pistols
    http://www.napoleon-online.de/html/fr_gdrag_mann.html Dragoon Fusil An IX strap from the model with infantry bayonet and white . The gun was always fixed in a Kolbenfutteral in the saddle right side and passed over his right thigh. The fusil was overall 1.417 m long, the barrel length was 1.028 m and the caliber of 1.75 cm. The total weight of the weapon reached 4.275 kg .
    A special feature of the gun was the " double " tire on the upper end of the strap, which means a tighter grip during shouldered carrying methods (horse !) was ensured . In the scheme, the colors of the metal parts are indicated (" laiton "= brass; "fer "= iron). This fusil, the arming of dragoons, Voltigeurs and gunners had been made until 1819 , numbering more than 450,000.
    Cavalry pistols An IX of the models (initial) and An XIII. Although primarily used to model XIII had a total length of 35.2 cm , the caliber was 1.71 cm. The weapon weighed 1.269 kg .

    Prussia:
    1782 pattern musket
    in 1805 new pattern "Nothardt-Gewehr", followed in 1809 by "Neu-Preussisches Gewehr" which used barrel bands.

    Austria: used 1798 pattern muskets until 1830.

    For Russian artillery see http://www.museum.ru/museum/1812/Arm...ery/part1.html (you will need to run a translation on this as it is in Russian) - it has all the dimensions you may ever need (e.g. wall thicknesses, calibre, lengths, size of pins, weights etc). or http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Ru...ers_and_horses
    Info on French artillery at http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/ar...lery_1800-1815
    Info on Austrian artillery http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Au..._artillery.htm
    Info on Prussian artillery http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Pr...y_Napoleon.htm
    Info on British artillery http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/British_artillery.htm & http://www.napoleon-series.org/milit...2pounders.html

    British Baker rifle - http://england.prm.ox.ac.uk/englishn...ker-rifle.html
    Last edited by Prince of Essling; August 28, 2010 at 05:41 PM. Reason: Found web link to copy of Haythornwaithe's "Weapons & Equipment of the Napoleonic Wars"

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    Great list! and thanks alot for the links.
    2 questions,
    the year XI pattern was 1805? is that correct? making the year XIII pattern what year?

    and also, it would be great to get some form of comparative literature on these weapons.

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    also, what is a "pood" in some other form of measurement?

    edit: okay 1 pood = 40 lbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by richardsharpe View Post
    also, what is a "pood" in some other form of measurement?

    edit: okay 1 pood = 40 lbs?
    Year IX is 1800-01, and XIII is 1804-05 (Revolutionary Calendar - Year I was 1792-93). For Year IX model see http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket4.htm; also see http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/fusil...20an%20IX.html and http://fr.academic.ru/dic.nsf/frwiki/343789 on the Charleville , the latter (although the former has more data) lists the Characteristics as

    • Calibre : 17.1 mm (cal .69 )
    • Length : 1.52 m
    • Weight of weapon : 4.6 kg
    • Weight of ball: approx . 28g
    • Scope of combat : 30 m ( We fired only when one could see the eyes of the opponent)
    • Maximum range: 100 m
    Details of French Year IX pistols at http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/pist%...20an%20IX.html
    Details of Year XIII pistols at http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/pist%...an%20XIII.html

    As to pood according to elsewhere on the Russian site http://www.museum.ru/museum/1812/Arm...lery/calc.html

    Standards of weight
    1 pood=40lbs=3840 grams=16.380496 kg
    1 pound=96 grams=409.51241 g
    1 spool=4.265754278 g
    Linear measures
    1 ft=12 inches=120 lines=1200 points=30,48 cm
    1 inch=10 lines=100 points=25,4 mm
    Line 1=10 points=2,54 mm
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    According to pages 54-65 of Otto von Pivka's "Armies of the Napoleonic Wars":
    Austrian cavalry pistol M1798 length 47.5cm barrel length 29cm calibre 17.8mm weight 1.5kg
    Austrian infantry musket M1798 length 150cm barrel length 112.5cm calibre ??mm
    Austrian cavalry carbine M1798 length 85.2cm barrel length 47cm calibre 17.58mm weight 2.5kg
    Austrian jager rifle M1807 length 103.5cm barrel length 66.6cm calibre 14.2/13.7mm
    French Voltigeur musket length 141.5cm barrel length 103cm calibre ??mm
    French light cavalry carbine M1786 length 105cm barrel length 69.5cm calibre ??mm
    French cavalry carbine Year IX model length 113cm barrel length 75.5cm calibre ??mm
    Prussian new cavalry carbine length 81 cm barrel length43cm calibre 15.7mm
    Prussian Norhardt musket M1801 length 144.5cm barrel length 105cm calibre 15.5mm
    Prussian M1782 musket length 148cm barrel length 105.2cm calibre ??mm
    Prussian new musket (or Scharnhost) M1809 length 143.5cm barrel length 104.5cm calibre 18.57mm
    ? (Prussian) Jager carbine M1807 length 123cm barrel length 85cm calibre 17.58mm weight 3.5kg
    British India Pattern musket length 139cm (light infantry version 96.5cm & artillery version 83.8cm) barrel length 99cm calibre 19.2mm; previous brown bess was 106.7cm long
    British light dragoon pistol M1800 length 40cm barrel length 23cm calibre 17mm
    British light dragoon carbine M1800 length 78cm barrel length 40cm calibre 17mm
    Similar info available for Bavarian, Hanoverian & saxon muskets, plus Westphalian & Hesse-Kassel rifles
    Russian musket info at http://www.napolun.com/mirror/napole...nfantryweapons and cavalry carbine & cavalry rifle info at http://www.napolun.com/mirror/napole...cavalryweapons
    Last edited by Prince of Essling; August 28, 2010 at 05:55 PM. Reason: spelling & additional info

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