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    The year is 1796. George Washington's second term as President of the newborn United States of America is coming to an end, and he has made it clear that he will not run for a third. Meanwhile, in Europe the French Revolutionary Wars are still raging, with the French moving to bring freedom to the other peoples of Europe and establishing client states such as the Batavian Republic.

    As a politician in the United States, you will have the opportunity to fight for political power - and hopefully become the President - lead armies if you so wish, and make history.

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    National stats, 1805:
    King:
    John Pappas
    Prime Minister: William Hall
    House of Lords: 34 seats (incl. Nestor Weatherby, John Chevalier, William Olson)
    House of Representatives: 107 seats (56 National Republican, 51 Federalist)
    Other:
    -Governor of the Northwest Territory - Nestor Weatherby
    Economy: 95.5%

    American protectorates, 1805:
    -Kingdom of Greece

    Map of the USA, 1800:
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    Income:
    Income tax: 0%
    Tariffs: 6%
    Trade agreements:
    -Britain: +5%
    -Austria: +5%
    -Russia: +5%
    -Prussia: +5%
    -Spain: +5%
    -Netherlands: +5%
    National Bank: +20%
    Upkeep: -25% per turn
    Other:
    -Tribute from Morocco: +5% per turn for 5 turns
    -Tribute from Algiers: +7% per turn for 5 turns
    -Tribute from Tunis: +8% per turn for 3 turns
    -Autonomy for NWT: -5%
    -Autonomy + slashed taxes for Tennessee & Kentucky: -5%
    Total: +23% per turn

    Military:

    Available Manpower: 1,598,944

    Standing armies:

    Legion of the United States:
    Commander: Nestor Weatherby
    2,000 men
    1st Sub-Legion - Line Infantry
    2nd Sub-Legion - Line Infantry

    Legion of the United States in the West:
    Commander:
    Vincent Lazare
    1,500 men
    3rd Sub-Legion - Light Infantry
    4th Sub-Legion - Light Cavalry
    Artillery Sub-Legion - Artillery

    First United States Fleet:
    Commander:
    Alexander Styloski
    USS Bunker Hill - Frigate
    USS Constitution - Frigate
    USS Yorktown - Frigate
    USS Charleston - Brigantine
    USS Lexington - Brigantine
    USS Concord - Brigantine
    USS Boston - Brigantine
    USS Patriot - Brigantine
    Meshuda - Brigantine (captured from Algeria Nov. 30th, 1798)

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    This will not be a conventional IH. Instead of taking entire countries, players will be controlling United States politicians; naturally, this IH will be very heavily RP-based, and wars will more often be fought in Congress than on the battlefield. You will need to write up a character and form/join a party (unless you'd much rather remain an independent) before getting to work.

    Format for Characters:

    Pic:
    Self-explanatory, not mandatory though.
    Name: Self-explanatory.
    Party: If you belong to one.
    Office: Are you a Senator or just a member of the House of Representatives?
    Age: Be realistic - I don't want 8 year olds running for office
    Date of Birth: Also self-explanatory.
    Marital Status: Are you married? Single? Divorced, or unfortunately widowed?
    Children: Don't forget name, age & gender.
    Ethnicity: Keep in mind that this isn't the modern day, so we're...unlikely to see, say, a black guy from Georgia running for POTUS.
    Home State: Keep in mind that this is 1796.
    Occupation: Again, be realistic - no astronauts running for Senator here.
    Religious Views: Self-explanatory. Nothing anachronistic (ex. atheists running for office in the ultra-conservative South) please.
    Biography: Self-explanatory. Not asking for a novel here, but I don't want paperbacks either.

    Here are some major issues your character will need to deal with:

    Taxation - Self-explanatory.
    Military - Is a national army the future? Or should we instead rely on state militias? Or maybe some compromise can be reached?...
    The Economy & Trade - Should free-market principles be followed? Or is a protectionist approach in order? Should we throw our weight behind the Industrial Revolution and drive towards a better tomorrow, or look back to the past and work to set up a nation of autonomous yeoman farmers?
    Foreign Policy - Should the USA align with the revolutionaries in France? Or should we wash our hands of the French extremists (remember, these guys ran out Lafayette) and instead align with the old British enemy? Or maybe it'd be better to just keep our noses out of foreign affairs?...
    Immigration - Should we welcome all who pass through our borders in search of better fortunes? Or limit immigration to protect local business and the like?
    National Bank - Is the Bank of the United States necessary for financial order and regulation? Or is it a tool for federal oppression that we must get rid of ASAP?
    Slavery - A morally repugnant practice that must be ended, and the quicker the better? Or a necessary evil required to keep the economy functional? Or a perfectly justified practice that helps keep the uppity Negroes in their place? (keep in mind this is the 18th century here - racism was pretty much everywhere, these don't have to be your true views)

    Political rules:

    You may choose to run for the Senate (32 seats) or the House of Representatives (106 seats). As turns are one year long, every Senator and Congressman will have to face an election every two turns. The majority and minority parties in Congress are expected to elect a Majority Leader and a Minority Leader, respectively. Ditto for the Senate (Majority & Minority leaders as well as a President pro tempore). Speakers of the House are to be elected by the entire House of Representatives; a simple majority is all they will need.

    The President can veto legislation, though a presidential veto can be overturned by a 2/3rds majority in both Houses. The President also controls the armed forces, and while the power to actually declare war rests with Congress, when war does break out it will be down to the President to set objectives and write up an overall strategy. Lastly, Presidents may appoint federal judges (though they require Senatorial approval) and grant pardons.

    The House of Representatives has the power to pass bills, settle deadlocked elections, approve declarations of war and impeach officials.

    The Senate has the power to consent to treaties, confirm appointments and trying impeached officials. Also, any bill passed in the House must also be passed by the Senate.

    The President also has the authority to appoint Cabinet members, but each appointment must then be confirmed by simple majority by the Senate. The present Cabinet officials are:
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    Secretary of State: Responsible for foreign affairs (alliances, peace treaties, trade agreements, etc.).
    Secretary of the Treasury: Responsible for the economy (tariffs, taxes, etc.)
    Secretary of War: Responsible for the maintenance of the military (pay, recruitment, training etc).
    Attorney General: Responsible for legal affairs.
    Postmaster General: Responsible for the postal service.


    Players may form their own parties, join existing parties and cut backroom deals (over PMs, MSN etc) to form coalitions or outright unite parties. Nothing stopping you from running as an Independent though.

    Party format:
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    Name: Self-explanatory.
    Leader: To be elected by party members.
    Official colors: Think the Democrats' blue and the Republicans' red. Not mandatory though.
    Ideology: Incorporate at least three of these issues:
    Taxation - Self-explanatory.
    Military - Is a national army the future? Or should we instead rely on state militias? Or maybe some compromise can be reached?...
    The Economy & Trade - Should free-market principles be followed? Or is a protectionist approach in order?
    Foreign Policy - Should the USA align with the revolutionaries in France? Or should we wash our hands of the French extremists (remember, these guys ran out Lafayette) and instead align with the old British enemy? Or maybe it'd be better to just keep our noses out of foreign affairs?...
    Immigration - Should we welcome all who pass through our borders in search of better fortunes? Or limit immigration to protect local business and the like?
    National Bank - Is the Bank of the United States necessary for financial order and regulation? Or is it a tool for federal oppression that we must get rid of ASAP?
    Slavery - A morally repugnant practice that must be ended, and the quicker the better? Or a necessary evil required to keep the economy functional? Or a perfectly justified practice that helps keep the uppity Negroes in their place? (keep in mind this is the 18th century here - racism was pretty much everywhere, these don't have to be your true views)
    Description: Just a description of the party and what it stands for. Again, not looking for a novel here, but don't give me a trashy paperback either.

    Do keep in mind that a party's ideology will affect its electoral prospects all over the country (ex. a protectionist party will be popular in New England, an abolitionist party will have practically zero support in the South, etc.)

    The 12th Amendment hasn't been passed yet, so while the player to get the most votes will become President, the runner-up in every presidential election will land the seat of the Vice-President. However, each party is expected to form a ticket with both a presidential and vice-presidential candidate before an election begins.

    I'll set up election threads when it's time - every 2 turns for the House of Representatives, 4 turns for the POTUS and 6 for the Senate. During an election, you will be expected to put up propaganda, debate with other candidates, talk about any issues you feel are important, and tour states to try and rally support. Choose your words and actions carefully - gaffes, unpopular issues, brawls in Congress, over-the-top insults towards favored politicians or entire states, etc. can cost you the election. Election campaigns will run for three RL days.

    And before you ask, yes, you can start brawls in Congress Just don't godmod and kill off characters without their owner's permission. You may also challenge other characters to duels, which will be held in the Duels & RP subforum and be moderated by the host (yours truly) - naturally, the other player must agree to it as well, and just as obviously the loser will die.

    The Senate can also form an investigative committee to, well, investigate things - specifically, Presidential executive orders and any bill that they suspect has been passed with the use of dirty tricks (namely bribery). Each prosecuting player character in the committee must invest a # of PPs into the committee; the higher the number, the higher the Committee's chances of success become. Meanwhile, the defending player characters (Presidents or Senators who were either personally involved in the investigated bills or just want to keep it in place) can invest their own PPs into screwing up the Committee's efforts; naturally, the more PPs they invest the lower the Committee's chances of success become.

    Election rules:
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    Rules:

    1. Election season runs for 3 days.
    2. You may tour 3 states per day. This isn't important unless you're either running for POTUS/VP and/or belong to a party, though.
    3. You may give 3 speeches a day. Don't forget to give the time & location where you're giving your speech. (ex. 'On a dark and stormy September night in New York, Insert Name Here begins to speak...')
    4. You may post 3 political posters in support of your character or party a day.
    5. You can Attack other characters/parties twice a day.
    6. You may challenge your opponent to a debate on the 2nd and 3rd days of the campaign.

    NOTE: Naturally, you must break at least 50.1% Popularity to win a seat in either the House or Senate. If you're running for the Presidency, your Popularity will instead affect the number of electoral votes you'll be getting.
    NOTE: The runner-up in this election will become VP.
    NOTE: Speeches can give a boost to your Popularity, but if they're particularly bad they can also affect it negatively. I'm looking for quality here, not quantity or length - you can write a 10k word speech and if it reads like the literary equivalent of a bowl of steaming diarrhea you're not gonna win any points for it.
    NOTE: The effectiveness of an attack ad, like with speeches, depends on their quality. Also, try not to go over-the-top with these ads, or you'll damage your own popularity.
    NOTE: Random events may happen to either raise or lower a candidate's, several candidates' or even an entire party's popularity.

    For Presidential elections, you will have to fight for support in each state. The support you have in each state will be indicated by a level:

    Unshakable: The state will unconditionally support you, and it becomes impossible for other candidates to win any meaningful support there. (no longer possible to campaign here)
    Strong: The state's population is firmly on your side, but other candidates can still win them over with enough luck and charisma. The state electors will cast their vote for you.
    Middling: The state is divided in their support for you, other candidates, and the apathetic citizens who simply don't care about the election. Their electors have a 50-50 chance of declaring for you come Election Day, to be decided by the roll of a die. (1-3, they vote for you; 4-6, they don't)
    Weak: A large minority in the state supports you, but it's not enough to get the votes of the electors...
    Very Weak:
    A visible minority supports you, but they are too small in number to combat other candidates' supporters or win over the apathetic citizens, let alone get you the electors' votes.


    Political Points rules:
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    Political points are won in elections; your Popularity there will be transformed into Political Points at the end of an election, ex. you win an election with 55% Popularity, giving you 55 PPs. Political Points may be used for, ahem, 'ungentlemanly warfare'...

    Vote buying: Spend PPs to gain Popularity in an election. The more PPs you spend, the more Popularity you will gain. For Presidential elections, you will need to choose a state or states to spend your PPs in.
    Bribery: Bribe Representatives or Senators (either NPC Independents or NPCs from other parties) to support a piece of legislation. It will cost 15 PP to bribe one Representative and 20 for a Senator. Naturally, the more PPs you spend the more Representatives or Senators you will win over.
    Assassination: Hire a hitman to take out a political rival. This covert op will cost you 60 PP, and will begin with a 15% success rate. Naturally, the more PPs you spend, the higher the assassin's chances become.
    Senatorial prosecution/obfuscation: Invest PPs to either assist a Senatorial Investigative Committee's efforts or mess with them, raising and lowering their chances of success respectively. Senate only.


    I'd rather the use of PPs be kept secret (and I'm sure anybody who does want to use them will also want to keep 'em a secret ) so just shoot me a PM.

    Military rules:

    Players may send their characters off to war (when a war involves the US, obviously) as commanders of an army. Battles will be settled in the Wars & Battles subforum, the way most battles were settled in the DoM IH (with mods, plans & the like).

    Winning battles will naturally make you more popular, losing will disgrace your name and weaken your reputation, and of course there's the ever-present threat of your character coming down with a nasty case of death on the battlefield.

    Recruitment:

    Militia Regiment - 1,500 - 1%, 1 day - poorly trained, ill-equipped and undisciplined (but cheap and quick to raise) irregulars useful for little more than human wave attacks, police actions or home defense while the real soldiers are off on campaign.
    Line Infantry Regiment - 1,000 - 2%, 3 days - the bread and butter of any army, well-trained and well-equipped professionals/semi-professionals capable of fighting in disciplined formations, giving and receiving volleys of musket fire and fighting in close quarters with their bayonets.
    Light Infantry Regiment - 600 - 2.5%, 3 days - elite rifle-armed sharpshooters and skirmishers best used for recon, guerrilla warfare, countering opposing light infantry units or knocking off enemy commanders.
    Light Cavalry Regiment - 500 - 3%, 6 days - Hussars, lancers and carabiniers who can both function as a faster, mounted Light Inf. Rgt. and as shock cavalry, though they will not fare well in protracted melee engagements.
    Heavy Cavalry Regiment - 500 - 4%, 6 days - Cuirassiers who, though not as agile or proficient in ranged combat as the Light Cavalry, are quite capable of smashing through enemy lines head-on and holding their own in drawn-out close-quarters combat.
    Artillery Regiment - 400, 20 cannons - 5%, 1 week - Artillery crews capable of laying waste to fortresses and decimating massed formations of enemy troops with their cannons, but are highly vulnerable in close quarters.
    Mercenaries - Size varies - Cost varies, instant recruitment - Various mercenaries from all over the world, often hardened veterans of colonial or continental conflicts, who have offered their services in exchange for a few bags of gold. They are only available upon request (that is, you have to actively seek them out) and will eventually leave. Note that they can revolt if not paid enough for their services. Mercenaries are also the only unit a General can recruit, and their recruitment will not require a Presidential signature, just Congressional approval.

    Recruitable ships:

    Cutter - 4%, 3 days - very small ships armed with only one or two cannons, useful for enforcing the law on the high seas but little else.
    Brigantine - 6%, 6 days - lightly armed but at least battle-worthy and speedy ships, useful as cheap escorts and capable of dealing with most pirates.
    Frigate - 10%, 1 week - Well-armed, maneuverable medium ships-of-the-line that form the bulk of most battlefleets.
    Man o' War - 15%, 2 weeks - Mighty warships boasting impressive armaments that generally serve as flagships.
    Privateers - Cost varies, instant recruitment - The seaborne equivalent of mercenaries. Like mercenaries, Privateers will only make their price and ability known upon request, and can be hired by Admirals. Also like mercenaries, Privateers can turn against you if they don't get their paychecks. However, unlike mercenaries, Privateers can be used to attack other countries' merchant ships with a good (75%) chance of you not getting caught. Like with mercenaries, you won't need the President to recruit them, just Congress's green light.

    All units' upkeep is 1/2 of their price. Also, when recruiting units, please group them into named armies or fleets - makes them much easier to track, and much easier on the eyes (well, at least mine) too The President may appoint characters to lead armies and fleets as their Generals or Admirals.

    Economic rules:

    The following will strengthen the economy:

    Trade: 5%/trade agreement.
    Infrastructure: An investment of sorts - say you pour in 25% of the economy into infrastructure, the US will gain 5% econ/turn for the next 25 turns.
    Industrial/Agrarian expansion: Both of these work like investments, just like infrastructure. Industrial expansion works exactly like infrastructure by bringing in 5% econ boosts every turn equivalent to the amount of econ invested, agrarian expansion brings in double the investment in two turns. (ex. invest 25% econ and gain 50% after 2 turns, but it's a one-time gain)
    Taxes: Coming in 2 flavors for simplicity, income tax and tariffs. Income tax affects the happiness of the people, tariffs affect foreign relations and the likelihood of future trade agreements. Both work somewhat like infrastructure - for example, a 100% income tax and 100% tariff will give you 200% econ/turn. The Secretary of the Treasury also has the authority to introduce new taxes (ex. whiskey tax) with the consent of Congress and the President.
    National Bank: If a National Bank exists, it will steadily add 20% to the economy every turn. If one is not in place, the economy will completely be left at the mercy of the market, which will bring in upturns of 5% to 50% or downturns of -5% to -50% every turn.
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    Barry.....another one?
    when the union's inspiration through the worker's blood shall run,
    there can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun,
    yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one?
    but the union makes us strong.

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    Name: (Colonel) Connor Mac Athol
    Age: 30
    Date of Birth: 12-4-66
    Marital Status: Single
    Children: None
    Ethnicity: Scotch-Irish, descended from Kaintuck territory settlers
    Home State: Kentucky, lives in Michigan Territory
    Occupation: Ex-soldier, along with his father he fought in the revolution
    Office: Senate
    Political Party: Militarist (independent)
    Religious Views: Weslyan
    Biography: I fought in the great revolution, under me own father, Donuil Mac Athol. Me mom died when I was 14, killed by loyalist scum. Me father was also killed, though at the battle of Camden. I eventually became an officer, and I served at Yorktown. I lived through the war, and, after the war, moved 'ere to Michigan. Since then, I 'ave tried me hand at all manner o' work, and decided to try politics, as I've nothing else to do. I came into a great fortune, when I sacked a loyalist house during the war, and I 'ave livved on it frug'ly since.


    Taxation - High, so that we can pay the army (though the honor of serving should be enough).
    Military - All men should be trained in the rifle, and should be ready and willing to join the army, need be. Aside from that, the national government should control the army, and there should be a standing army, for emergency
    The Economy & Trade - Protectionism. I think that we should not allow any outsourcing at all, and that the goods made in the USA should be sold in the USA (and vice versa)
    Foreign Policy - I don't care about the Frenchies, but as long as there are them %#@* Englishmen up in Canada, I won't be comfortable (which means I want them GONE).
    Immigration - Outlaw Immigration. We have too many people as it is.
    National Bank -Yes, it is necessary.
    Slavery - Though I hate the ( OOC: can I type the word I'm thinking of?) as much as the next o' me Clan, I do think that they should be free, if only to be right in the eyes of God. Then, we'll just pay them very little and treat them so terribly they go back to Africa (I am for the creation of Liberia).
    Last edited by Agamemnon; August 30, 2010 at 07:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick II View Post
    Barry.....another one?
    Indeed Don't worry, this won't detract from DoM and I won't start until we've got at least eight players.

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    Did I do mine correctly?

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    Mostly, but keep in mind that the Klan isn't around yet Also, you should state which House your character is a member of (Senate/House of Representatives).

    Also, party rules added. I'd rather have more people join before we start forming parties though.
    Last edited by Barry Goldwater; August 26, 2010 at 03:13 PM.

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    Darn!
    Okay, fixed.
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    Name: John Chevalier
    Age: 43
    Date of Birth: 11-18-54
    Marital Status: Married
    Children: Two girls (15, Mary, and 18, Abigail), three boys (12, James, 17, Louis, 20. Henry)
    Ethnicity: French
    Party: Whig
    Home State: Formerly from New Orleans, currently living in Maryland
    Occupation: Lawyer, Soldier
    Running for: House of Representatives
    Religious Views: Catholic
    Biography: I was born to a family of French descent in the city of New Orleans, Louisiana, but we moved to Maryland when I was eleven. I went to study law abroad at Oxford University in England when I was eighteen. I also met and married my wife, Elizabeth, while living in Britain, and our first son, Henry, was born there as well. We returned to the colonies when I was 24, settling down in New Jersey for the first year when my daughter Abigail was born, and then moving back home to Maryland. I took arms as a minute-man when the revolution came around, but I was only promoted to the rank of Corporal.


    Taxation - Low. Why go back to what we had under the British?
    Military - It is important for every nation to keep a well-funded military.
    The Economy & Trade - I am a strong advocate of the free-market: Businesses should be allowed to flourish to the greatest prudent extent so that our fledgling economy can grow.
    Foreign Policy - Isolationism is our best option. Our nation should have time to build itself up internally before we involve ourselves in external affairs.
    Military - Keeping with my foreign policy, we should have a small, well trained standing army should the worst happen, but nothing to invade another country with. Militia forces should be larger than the standing army, and they should be well organized.
    Immigration - All immigrants are welcome!
    National Bank - Banks, and all businesses, should be privately owned.
    Slavery - Despite being southern by birth, my faith teaches that all human beings have value, and are not possessions for the strong to take advantage of.
    Last edited by Dan the Man; September 03, 2010 at 03:17 PM.
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    I'll be joining this bad boy, of course.

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    Excellent, everybody welcome aboard At 4 players I'll allow the creation of parties.

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    Name: Frederick Eugune Denver
    Party: Republican
    Office: Senator
    Age: 38
    Date of Birth: July 7th, 1758
    Marital Status: Married
    Children: William Frederick Denver (10), Mary Baxter Denver (4)
    Ethnicity: American English
    Home State: Eastern Virginia
    Occupation: Cotton Plantation Owner
    Religious Views: Conservative Protestant Christian
    Biography: Frederick was born in Virginia, on the Family Plantation which has been in the family name ever since the first Denvers arrived in America. Freddy is the typical Southern American Gentleman: He is middle aged, Snooty, Upper Class, Dislikes his slaves (frequently beating them), A stern father, and a Unbridled Patriot. He has many good friends and acquittance's in his fellow Plantation Owners, and plentiful support from his home-state, which sees him the perfect embodiment of Virginia's values. To be frank, they are right.

    Taxation - Low, except on 'em dam foreigners.
    Military - State militias will serve the flag!
    The Economy & Trade - We must protect our industry, and keep the factories away. Who needs 'em when you've got cotton?
    Foreign Policy - None of our business, this European nonsense.
    Immigration - Most certainly not, no immigration thank you!
    National Bank - Federal Oppression, plain and simple!
    Slavery - No Slavery?! Are you mad, you liberal northern hippy!!
    Last edited by Watercress; August 26, 2010 at 05:07 PM.

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    Whatup with the colored words?
    when the union's inspiration through the worker's blood shall run,
    there can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun,
    yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one?
    but the union makes us strong.

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    Yeah, i screwed my app up with the spellchecker. Just rewriting.

    "Only Connect!...Only connect the prose and the passion, and both will be exalted, and human love will be seen at its height. Live in fragments no longer."

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    Well, we've got 4 players, so you can now form your own parties Remember that only 3 parties may exist at a time.

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    Wait, we can make a bolshevik party if we choose?

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    Lolwut? Of course not, this is 1796 America. We'd be seeing Federalists and Anti-Federalists (with a possible side order of radicals along the lines of the Jacobins in France), not blackshirts and Bolsheviks.

    Hell there aren't even Democrats & Republicans, historically we had the Federalists (pro-big gov't merchants & industrialists based in New England) and Democratic-Republicans (anti-big gov't farmers & landowners strongest in the South & West) at this time.

    For the sake of the game we won't start with any parties, so players can come up with their own.
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    Agamemnon's Avatar Comes Limitis
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    I was joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agammemnon View Post
    I was joking.
    Ah, well then... Sorry 'bout that, I've had to deal with idiots seriously asking that in an earlier game. (not on TWC tho)

    Also, I should add that there's no Federalist Party yet, unless you go & make one

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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Name: (Ioannis)John Pappas
    Party: Whig
    Office: Senator
    Age: 36
    Date of Birth: September 9th, 1760
    Marital Status: Married - (Ekaterina)Katherine Pappas
    Children: Basileos(William) Pappas - 16 - M; Maria(Mary) Pappas - 9 - F; Panagiota(Petra) Pappas - 3 - F;
    Ethnicity: Greek
    Home State: Maryland
    Occupation: Lawyer, owner of a family imports business that specializes in Mediterranean goods
    Religious Views: Greek Orthodox
    Biography: Kyriakos Papaspyropoulos, John's father, was an established imports businessman in London, a descendant of Greeks who had fled Ottoman rule. He left there to move his business to America, where his wife gave birth to John. When the American Revolution began, he was an ardent supporter of the British, those who had always supported his business and were responsible for his money intake. His young son John, 16, was on the opposite side of the spectrum, often fatansizing about a free America, devoid of the tyrannical King's rule. After America won its independence, Kyriakos begrudingly stayed in America, and used his amassed wealth to pay for his son's education to become a lawyer. John immediatly became very well known for his skills, and once his father passed, he inherited the family business. He first became a representative of Maryland, but is now a senator. Currently residing in Baltimore, he recently put aside a large portion of funds for the building of a Greek Orthodox Church in the area, where he and several other families will be going. He is a reluctant supporter of slavery, anti national bank, free market, isolationist, low taxation, as well as a balanced agrarian and industrialist.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...30#post7963230
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    Gentlemen, I should remind you all that the Federalists and Democratic-Republicans don't exist in the game. However, I won't have any objections to you just copypasting the historical parties here.

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