Idea - Even more realistic shelling?

[a tw player]

Hello,

Just had a thought on how we can make the shell fire look more realistic. I know some very good work was done to make the explosion look more dirty, but I think I just thought of a way to get rid of the "brown gas" effect that happens, rather than dirt rising then falling. No idea if it can be done, but I have a feeling it might be able to be done, so here it goes.

I was playing a battle earlier on vanilla, and a cannonball hit into a river. There was a splash of water. I had seen this before, but this time it triggered a thought. What if this effect can be associated with shells hitting the ground? Then, we would end up with a very nice effect of the ground rising up in the explosion, then falling. The smoke effect could be kept to obviously create that nice ambience that we currently have. Of course, I hear you ask that the water would look odd now, but that's because I forgot to mention that the water splash effect should be able to be recoloured to a brown dirt colour.

If this works I think we could end up with a nice WW1 style shell explosion.

Thoughts?

Edit - Here's an image of some splashes I just took to help you visualise it without going into the game:

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Edit2 - Here's an actual image of a shell exploding (trench mortar in particular here), to see the similarity apart from colour:

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[Nyxos]

We have to find were the damn water splash is, I never saw it when I was fiddling around with the explosions but maybe someone else knows were it might be found (maybe there is a secret "effects" table other than the one for blood land explosions and stuff)
Good idea btw +rep !

[Icey Fresh Werewolf]

Hello,

Just had a thought on how we can make the shell fire look more realistic. I know some very good work was done to make the explosion look more dirty, but I think I just thought of a way to get rid of the "brown gas" effect that happens, rather than dirt rising then falling. No idea if it can be done, but I have a feeling it might be able to be done, so here it goes.

I was playing a battle earlier on vanilla, and a cannonball hit into a river. There was a splash of water. I had seen this before, but this time it triggered a thought. What if this effect can be associated with shells hitting the ground? Then, we would end up with a very nice effect of the ground rising up in the explosion, then falling. The smoke effect could be kept to obviously create that nice ambience that we currently have. Of course, I hear you ask that the water would look odd now, but that's because I forgot to mention that the water splash effect should be able to be recoloured to a brown dirt colour.

If this works I think we could end up with a nice WW1 style shell explosion.

Thoughts?

Indeed, a great thought mate. +rep

Also, would it be able to make the gas from the explosions stay around longer? If you look at the WW1 videos, you see a smoke cloud rising from the explosion and drifting away.

[.Mitch.]

Loving it.

The idea that is, not McDonalds.

[The Hedge Knight]

Pretty simply to do, need to recolour the splash though.

[Audacia]

Great idea man! +rep of course, included in the next release perhaps?

['Gunny]

good thinking, have some rep on me

[a tw player]

Thanks guys, it's good to hear that it's possible too

Oooh, got myself 2 thingies now

[The Hedge Knight]

So do you still want the old explosion with this as well or do you just want this?

[a tw player]

Hmmmm, just had a quick look in the PFM and found these files:

emp_watersplash_diffuse.dds
emp_watersplash_diffuse.tga

They were in data-->effects-->textures

Not sure if they're the right files, or if you even already know where to look, but they at least sound right anyway

[a tw player]

So do you still want the old explosion with this as well or do you just want this?

Well I was thinking just this, but with the smoke still lingering around the battle from them as they do now

[Aanker]

I think that splashes are tied to projectiles in some DB table known as the 'impacts table'. I am not certain, but I recall working on this in my naval projects.

[The Hedge Knight]

No, they are in landbattle.xml i just need to add somthing similar to the effects group
.

[a tw player]

Sounds good

[Michel ney.v2]

AWSOME IDEA UR A GENIUS SEE PPL START THINKING OUT SIDE THE BOX TO GET AROUND OUR PROBLEMS

[scoobiedoo]

great idea! as soon as i reach 25 posts i'll give you some rep

[Admiral Van Tromp]

Are there any news on this topic? By the way, great idea tw player. +rep

[Aanker]

In fact, I am pretty certain that this is going to be a part of update 4.5, if I remember correctly.

[Lasseman]

Great! +rep for the idea

[Admiral Van Tromp]

In fact, I am pretty certain that this is going to be a part of update 4.5, if I remember correctly.

Great, does it already have the new texture or is it still simillar to water?