FOR LAND, LADY AND THE GRAIL!

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

is there a crusade concept for bretonnia?
btw give them french accent

LOL

i was busy typing that very question
as they have errantry wars so it would be lore specific....

it has to be french have you seen their names

[TWmadman]

isilendil, it is not a big deal, i ll handle this. i made music for this faction already.

[Kahvipannu]

it is possible only as you do in EFI, becouse they will not have their own culture
but their cities will have different view for empire

Ok, good to know, so no work would go wasted

[T&D]

The Fay Enchantress Attachment 104886

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Bretonnian Army List
Generic Units:
All units will be recruit able in castles and towns have mediocre stats these will be the base units for the bretonnian army.
Peasant Bowman
Men at Arms Spear
Battle Pilgrims
Yeomen cavalry
Knight errant


AOR units for Castles
Men at arms: sword
Longbowmen
Knights of the realm
Questing knights

Specialised Units
Grail Knights
Pegasus knights
Grail reliqaue
Trebuchet

Ok i have taken the unit list down to its base components lets start from here and finalise it

[TWmadman]

you forgot Knight Errant

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

you forgot Knight Errant

grrrrrr
right done.

First tier
so the reasoning here is that we have a base set of units that are recruit able everywhere regardless of castle or town settlement so that bretonnia can raise a cheap defensive army rather quickly...

Second tier
will be the more specialized and tougher units, obviously longer times to recruit, slightly higher cost and only available in certain regions.

Third tier

will be units available in only one region with limited recruitability high cost and high upkeep


The added flavour would that (like i RS2) we have the same units recruitable in towns and castles but with their own unique colours and heraldry.
so i would like input so we can finalise this and put it too bed so we dont change the goalposts for the graphics guy... too much

[T&D]

If smobody can send me the link with trebuchet unit it will be good.I want this model because I don't have a trebuchet in my mods and game. I have a question what about mercenaries!?!?!?!?

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

Leave mercs for now i think...

lets concentrate on the core army....

[T&D]

Leave mercs for now i think...

lets concentrate on the core army....

Ok.Give me conception or some ideas for elite men at arms.

[IrishBlood]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Bretonnian Army List
Generic Units:
All units will be recruit able in castles and towns have mediocre stats these will be the base units for the bretonnian army.
Peasant Bowman
Men at Arms Spear
Battle Pilgrims
Yeomen cavalry
Knight errant


AOR units for Castles
Men at arms: sword
Longbowmen
Knights of the realm
Questing knights

Specialised Units
Grail Knights
Pegasus knights
Grail reliqaue
Trebuchet

Ok i have taken the unit list down to its base components lets start from here and finalise it

shouldnt the battle pilgrims be more of an elite infantry unit, rather then a basic generic one? from their description they sound pretty devoted and determined. also from this picture they seem alot more badass to me then say 'men at arms : sword'. Since their fanatical warriors their morale would be much MUCH higher then some common 'men at arms', making them for more valuable in battle, dont you think?

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

well the "elite men at arm"s would basically be sword and other specialised heavy troops.

if you look at the previous posts we want to get the army list reworked and finalised.

[derdavid]

One question: you have men at arms with spears and swords, but what about halberds? (It's the weapon they have in the tabletopgame)

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

shouldnt the battle pilgrims be more of an elite infantry unit, rather then a basic generic one? from their description they sound pretty devoted and determined. also from this picture they seem alot more badass to me then say 'men at arms : sword'

agreed but with so many units not being lore specific to the bretonni i thought of having the battle pilgrims reliquae unit as an elite..

and then normal battle pilgrims recruit able on mass aka militias.

i feel that we need 1 or 2 fodder units and from tabletop the pilgrims seem perfect for the role. But the Reliquae unit will be elite.

One question: you have men at arms with spears and swords, but what about halberds? (It's the weapon they have in the tabletopgame)

Well this is why we are reworking the army list, the current state is that the Bretonni dont have a variety of heavy and well maintained infantry units and the strength lies in the knightly orders.. while this is true we are also trying to get the right balance for in game.

But please comments like these are helpful so we can get a clear consensus on what everyone thinks....
keep em coming lads....

[IrishBlood]

agreed but with so many units not being lore specific to the bretonni i thought of having the battle pilgrims reliquae unit as an elite..

and then normal battle pilgrims recruit able on mass aka militias.

i feel that we need 1 or 2 fodder units and from tabletop the pilgrims seem perfect for the role. But the Reliquae unit will be elite.

yeah that sounds fine to me

[T&D]

One question: you have men at arms with spears and swords, but what about halberds? (It's the weapon they have in the tabletopgame)

Men at arms with halberds??? I'ts good idea

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

yes like i said it is a good idea but one of the points of us getting so much work done is to make the faction believable (A) lore specific(B) and (C) so it doesnt look like we lumped a generic european faction from MTW2 with new skins...

The army has to feel right and lore specific. In this regard I will take the next day or so to see what everyone feels about our direction for the faction and take it from there.

[Werebear]

sword, halberd, spear

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

Got all the Bret pics cheers.......

...and yes i fully see everybody points that is why i decided to rework the army list, take everyones opinions over the next day or so and recompile the list....

EDIT: i also used to collect breton table top figures so i know their weapons, strengths and weaknesses im just trying to go forward with everyone interested in the mod,the COW team and my team are all happy about the direction.

[Werebear]

Got all the Bret pics cheers.......

...and yes i fully see everybody points that is why i decided to rework the army list, take everyones opinions over the next day or so and recompile the list....

EDIT: i also used to collect breton table top figures so i know their weapons, strengths and weaknesses im just trying to go forward with everyone interested in the mod,the COW team and my team are all happy about the direction.

also keep in mind if btretonia have special units like Dead head and karroburg greatswords in Empire it will be great to implement them too.