[Guide]Stainless Steel General Modding Topic

**Gorrrrrn** · August 13, 2010, 05:50 PM

I've changed the title as it looks like it might be some time before we get a modding sub-forum.
SO the thread is now a place to ask sub-modding questions and place information.

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One thing I've discovered (although Xeryx has posted on this some time ago but probably worth a mention) is the necessity to clear the cache when testing mods.

M2TW caches all the files in the SS6.3 directory for easy fetching during the game.

If you try and hotswop files without clearing the cache the prog, when running may use the cache version not necessarily the newer version.

Which can lead to ages to trying to debug something that actually works OK. (or lead you to think it does when it doesn't.)

One can remove the map.rwm between tests to rebuild the map (generally a good idea anyway) but this doesn't clear the cache.

Originally Posted by Germanicu5

Sorry I noticed this so late, I disagree with explanation on file cache mechanics put in OP, it's very improbable.

Here's my last year research (costed me a good few days of work): Disabling file cache - resolving modding and savegame issues

What disable_file_cache does is enabling compatibility mode, so that one can play a game started before making major updates. Info is cached inside a savegame and it contains file references (particularly model references) from the moment you started the game at.

Ofc removing map.rwm is a good modding practice, but I wouldn't call it cache clearing.

Regards

**Alpha Zeke** · August 13, 2010, 06:14 PM

I completely support this.

**dominion** · August 14, 2010, 06:31 AM

You have my support, with the release of ss6.3 lots of people came from guest to member including me

**Point Blank** · August 14, 2010, 07:23 AM

That's good to see

**Alpha Zeke** · August 14, 2010, 10:08 AM

The reason I like this is because tons of people will want to personalize this, and we have quite a few experienced and less experienced (me) modders around who would love to learn. More so as dominion said, tons of guests are going member (Without avatars >.<) and it would be nice to have a place to point to

**E.K** · August 14, 2010, 07:29 PM

Ok so Im enjoying my Crusader states campaign but I would like to add some units from the Teutonic order to CS. Im new to modding and I dont know what file I need to edit to make this possible.

If someone could tell me how I would appreciate it

EK

**Silver Legionary** · August 14, 2010, 07:36 PM

@EnglishKnight:
It's relatively easy to do what you described, do you want the units to have the same appearance as when they were TO units?

If so, I can walk you through adding the units in, if need be.
But first, a link to a good guide: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=74945
I can help you apply that guide to what you want to do.

**Caesar Clivus** · August 14, 2010, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by EnglishKnight

Ok so Im enjoying my Crusader states campaign but I would like to add some units from the Teutonic order to CS. Im new to modding and I dont know what file I need to edit to make this possible.

You have to add their ownership to the EDU, their name to the recruitment pools in the EDB, give them texture entries in the modeldb and then copy unit card and info card pics into their folder in the data\ui\units and data\ui\unit_info folders respectively. There are tutorials on how to do this in the Mod Workshop forums.

Which brings me to my point. The problem as I see it with a separate modding for SS forum is that we already have the M2TW Mod Workshop forums which has tons of tutorials, tons of tools and resources. Not to mention all the non-SS modders who hang out there who know everything about everything when it comes to modding.

I feel that having a separate modding forum just for SS will result in too much doubling up. People will be asking questions that are either already answered in threads and/or tutorials in the Mod Workshop, or asking questions that will get answers quicker in the Mod Workshop as many more modders hang out there than here in the SS forum.

If there are any SS specific modding questions, such as how to get submods running with the new SS launcher and setup system, then of course they should be asked here. But I'm not sure if that warrants a whole new forum.

**E.K** · August 14, 2010, 07:54 PM

@silver legionary thankyou.

I agree with you there CC.

**Gorrrrrn** · August 15, 2010, 05:59 AM

CC - one of things I find with the Mod Workshop is that people there will often refer people back to the particular mod if they want to mod that mod.

if people just post questions in the sub-mod forums about modding SS in general (and not an SS sub-mod) they get answered and then disappear.
So people ask the same questions over and over.

not everyone @ SS knows about Mod Workshop, and obviously any SS specific sub-forum would refer people to tutorials there.
But could also be helpful for people trying to work out how to mod the main SS files for their own use.

**Alpha Zeke** · August 16, 2010, 11:40 AM

Since I would never go back to modding for the vanilla game, as SS is my vanilla, then a mod workshop here would be very beneficial to people like me.

**iamsawyer** · August 16, 2010, 12:05 PM

ya i agree with this whole idea i'm fairly new to the forums and im curently creating a little mod myself but even if you look at the kingdoms hosted mods you can see the huge number of posts and threads compared to other mods and the fact that 94 people are viewing opposed to the usal 1 to 5 in other mods so im all for the new sub forum

**Gorrrrrn** · August 17, 2010, 07:21 AM

Some useful information for anyone upgrading their SS6.2 sub-mod to SS6.3.

SS6.2 -> SS6.3 region name changes
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Replacing
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Munster_province has been removed. Oleshe_Province

has been created.

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Renaming
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Cracow_Province -> Krakow_Province

Breslau_Province -> Wroclaw_Province

Hohenstauffen_Province -> Staufen_Province

Iasi_Province -> Baia_Province

Budapest_Province -> Esztergom_Province

Bran_Province -> Brasov_Province

Bucharest_Province -> Targoviste_Province

Florence_Province -> Pisa_Province

Roman_Province -> Rome_Province

Isle_of_Cyprus -> Nicosia_Province

Isle_of_Crete -> Iraklion_Province

Timbuktu_Province -> Damietta_Province

Balearic_Isles -> Palma_Province

Vjatka_Province -> Khlynov_Province

Warsaw_Province -> Plock_Province

Satu_Mare_Province -> Kassa_Province

Worms_Province -> Cologne_Province

Gotland_Province -> Visby_Province

Isle_of_Rhodes -> Rhodes_Province

Poltava_Province -> Pereyaslav_Province

Badajoz_Province -> Seville_Province

Talinn_Province -> Reval_Province

Pecs_Province -> Varad_Province

Batumi_Province -> Kutaisi_Province

**Meneth** · August 17, 2010, 07:26 AM

Good list. +rep
Any provinces left that aren't called the same as the settlement+_province?

**Silver Legionary** · August 18, 2010, 11:46 PM

Real quick question, I've gotten up to adding an battle_models.MODELDB entry
for Ritterbruder and Foot Ritterbruder for the Crusader States,
EDB and EDU entries are done.
I added an entry for the jerusalem faction in the correct spots,
but I'm getting an unspecified error on startup.

Any ideas of what's going wrong?
If you guys can help me with this, I'll be able to help EnglishKnight with
doing this too, as that's why I'm doing it.

Also, there should always be a 9 before any jerusalem in that file, right?

**Caesar Clivus** · August 19, 2010, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Silver Legionary

Also, there should always be a 9 before any jerusalem in that file, right?

Yes. The first number on lines in the modeldb are the string count. It has to be the number of characters of the text that follows on that line.

Did you update the faction count when you added in the entries for jerusalem? i.e.:

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There are detailed tutorials in the Mod Workshop on how to edit the modeldb.

**Silver Legionary** · August 19, 2010, 12:10 PM

Ooh... That might be it.
I'll try that.

EDIT:
I updated the faction count in the right spots,
same error, though.
Does SS6.3 use all possible unit model slots?

Anyway, this is what all the entries now look like
for Ritterbruder, foot or mounted:

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That's the correct way to do it, right?

EDIT2: It might have been a file format error, because when I removed what I put in, to make it
the normal SS6.3 file, I still got that same error.

**Caesar Clivus** · August 20, 2010, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by Silver Legionary

I updated the faction count in the right spots,
same error, though.
Does SS6.3 use all possible unit model slots?

There is no limit (or at least no-one has reached it yet)

Anyway, this is what all the entries now look like
for Ritterbruder, foot or mounted:

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That's the correct way to do it, right?

EDIT2: It might have been a file format error, because when I removed what I put in, to make it
the normal SS6.3 file, I still got that same error.

Can you post the entire entries that you've changed?

**Gorrrrrn** · August 20, 2010, 11:20 AM

OK a simple question.
making this 2 TPY - we simply comment out the ageing script and change turns to 0.50 years?

I've done that but got a CTD on T2

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I'm doing this for the rozmod and to test the devastation issue.
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update:

ran the same files, same early era, same faction HUngary fine to T15
ditto Poland.
must have been a one off glitch?

(2TPY working but not touched traits or other stuff yet.)

**Silver Legionary** · August 20, 2010, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

Can you post the entire entries that you've changed?

Yes, I can:

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I think I found the error, though, I think I forgot to add 0 after the texture files for the CS.

EDIT: Nevermind, lol, I fixed it. SUCCESS.

EDIT2: Here's the battle_models.MODELSDB with Ritterbruder, foot and mounted, added for CS.
There you go, EnglishKnight. Add that file into the unit_models folder, back up the old file first.

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