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    i got some experience with photoshop and with modelling. Heb voor Seizuko no Senso, mod een paar models gemaakt.. Ben er nu mee gestopt door omstandigheden. Alex, stuur me maar een bericht auf facebook als je geļnteresseerd bent.


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    Digly, eventhough your english sucks like hell, stick to english

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    Belgian Preview Coming up

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    we're happy if you could join our course

    Result of the Poll: I suspend the Beta release, but meanwhile i expand the roster, add ancilleries, traits, buildings etc and i will preview a lot more.. Hopefully you can last it longer withouth
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    Default Re: Batavia Total war - Beta Poll!

    Nice!

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    WIP!

    Batavia Total War Presents:

    The Belgae!

    "Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae"/"Of all the Gauls, the Belgae are the bravest."

    Julius Caesar

    The word 'Belgae' is the common used term for the many tribes who lived in north-france, Belgium (dah) and south netherlands.
    It included many tribes. The Belgae were mostly Germanic, but none of them where 100% Germanic. Most of them were celto-germanics. Some southern Belgic tribes were pure Celtic, like the Bellovaci and the Sennones. Some were near 100 % Germanic, like the Nervii, Menapii, eburonii and Marsaci. The Remii and the Atrebati were typical Celto-Germanic.

    The Belgae had interesting genes. Altough both the Celts and the Germanics had fairly light hair (with exeptions), the Belgae were mentiond very much as a 'dark haired' people.

    The 3 Belgae tribes we took for Batavia Total war were large tribes, and were quite dominant in the Netherlands. We chose: The Menapii, the Remii and the Nervii. The Eburonii and the Aduacati are planned for Future versions.

    Menapii

    "Next to the Mosa river are the Menapi, and their town
    Castellum "

    "Both the country of the Morini and that of the Atrebatii and Eburones resemble that of the Menapii; for much of it, though not so much as the historians have said (four thousand stadia), is a forest, consisting of trees that are not tall; the forest is called Arduenna"

    Ptolemy

    "When Caesar had arrived at the opening of these forests, and had began to fortify his camp, and no enemy was in the mean time seen, while our men were dispersed on their respective duties, they suddenly rushed out from all parts of the forest, and made an attack on our men. The latter quickly took up arms and drove them back again to their forests; and having killed a great many, lost a few of their own men while pursuing them too far through those intricate places"

    "came to the Rhine , to districts which the Menapii inhabited, and where they had lands, houses, and villages on either side of the river. The latter people, alarmed by the arrival of so great a multitude, removed from those houses which they had on the other side of the river, and having placed guards on this side the Rhinehey, finding themselves, after they had tried all means, unable either to force a passage on account of their deficiency in shipping, or cross by stealth on account of the guards of the Menapiihey crossed the river before that part of the Menapii, who were at peace in their settlements over the Rhine, were apprized of [their intention]; and seizing all their houses, maintained themselves upon their provisions during the rest of the winte"

    Julius Caesar

    The Menapii were dominating the coastlines, from Zealand to Bruges. They also had smaller colonies, at the Rhine and inland near the Ardennes.

    They were skilled Foresters and Woodsmen, they could move their whole tribe to flee for Caesars Legionairs after the battle of Sabis.

    Units:

    The Menapians use mainly Belgian influences, but also more germanic influences. They are more in touch with the germanics then the other tribes, their neighbourgs, the Frisiavones and the Tungri, are Germanic. This results into a more Germanized tribe, with Germanic war customs, fearless warfare:


    Menapische Helden



    The Tribe pick the strongest, most musclar and fiercest young man and train their whole live to become the Menapische Helden (Menapian Heroes).
    They are armed with the Celtic shortsword, į la Belgae.
    Their skill with the sword is remarkable. They are able to punch through the enemy with their sword, stab them to death and get away fast.
    They carry a large celtic style shield. It can protect their whole body from arrows.
    They also carry javelins to soften up the enemy and dazzle it before they start their fierce charge.


    Marezaatse Heren (Marsaci nobles)



    Marezaatse helden are trustfull nobles with the best outfit from the Marsaci, the brethen tribe of the Menapii. They are well disciplined for a barbarian unit, and know their place in the battlefield. They can act as superior line infantry. They are quite deadly, and have a regular morale.

    They carry Germanic longswords, and a celtic shield and mail. Thus, they are perfeclty protected from any harm, allowing them to act more relaxed then their menapian brothers.

    More Coming...


    Nervii

    "and that the Nervii, who are reckoned the most warlike among them"

    Julius Caesar

    "The Treviri and Nervii even go out of their way to claim German descent. Such a glorious origin, they feel, should clear them of any resemblance to the nerveless Gauls"

    Tacitus

    The Nervii were a Warlike people, situated between the Scheldt and the Scambre. They were a extremely warlike people, with very much Germanic ties. They even embrace their origins. They could handle out much other Belgian tribes in war, and even annoyed Caesar in the conquest of Gaul. They fought a huge battle against the Romans, at Sabis, and sieged a camp, making a total of 15.000 Casualties.

    Units:

    The Nervian army was a good organised force, as Caesar noted it. They were able to form lines, construct walls to slow down Caesars forces, and had organised retreat and other well structured systems.
    The Nervii might be Germanic, but they primar used Celtic weapons, based on archaeological evidence found near the Scheldt.
    But the Germanic influence was present. The Nervii used heavier weapons, such as Axes.

    Nervische krijgers



    Nervische krijgers are fanatical infantry, only composed of Germanic men. They carry Celtic axes with a long haft, designed to crush bones and cut deep in the flush. Mix this with the fierceness of the Nervii, and you have a devastating units, who can act as a pure shock killer, able to cut deep into lines, and carve far a path into armoured opponents.

    Remi

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    except the Aedui and the Remi, whom Caesar had always held in especial honor, the one people for their long standing and uniform fidelity toward the Roman people, the other for their late service in the Gallic war"

    Caesar

    The Remii were known for their cavalry, but their behaviour was also very notable.
    Most Belgian tribes supported the Gaulish revolt, but the Remii supported Caesar. They had strong alliances with the Germanic tribe. They helped the Germanic tribes with their raids on Gallic turf.
    Most scholars believe they are Celtic, but their main tribe was high likely Germanic, and their nobles were pure Celtic.
    When the Romans conquered Gallica and Belgica and Germania Inferior, they were still allied to the Romans. Their loyalty was rewarded with the same status as the Batavians.

    Units:

    Remi Cavalry



    The Remi cavalry was all famous. The Remi had a own breed. Archaeological evidence points out that the Remi horses were real horses, instead of the Mediterranean pony's.
    That made together with years of experience and good equipment deadly riders, who were able to punch through lines, and charge heavy infantry lines to death. Only trained spearmen could stop their ferocious charge.






    Belgian common units:

    Celtische boogschutters:


    Altough Celts were not really the masters of the bow, they still kept a tradition of bowmen, who were levied from hunters. Those men were able to hurt a enemy and even kill it, from a fairly safe range.
    Their costs are low, but they are vulnerable to anything. Keep them out of combat.

    Belgische Bijlvechters:


    Altough the Celts are not famed for their axes, the Celts did used them, and the belgae particulary, thanks to their Germanic ancestry. These units are masters in its use. They have leather coats, wooden shields and small axes. These men are able to knock immidiatly through lines with their shield/armor crushing axe.
    They are not very trained, but know their place on the battlefield well, and have a certain mood that makes them near fearless.

    They wear Germanic wigs, to honour their Germanic descent.

    Slingers:


    The use of the Slinger in the Belgae lands is high possibly a copy of the Brythonic slinger, a idea the Belgae saw when they settled in britain.
    Altough a fair simple weapon, the slinger is quite effective against armor, but has a really low damage value. Their range is impressive.

    Slinger units are mostly composed of young tribe members, rookies. Before they can enter the harsh stuff, they have to face some small challenges first.

    Adellijken:



    The Belgic nobles were fashioned in the latest noble style. Their helmets were mostly used as traditional wear, but nobles prefered them in battle, because it was a sign of nobility and power.
    Their La Tene longswords are of the highest quality they can afford, and are dazzling sharp to the edge.

    They are not as trained or as brave as the specialist militairy units of their nation, but their equipments makes up a lot.

    Belgische Elite corps:



    The Belgische Elite corps (Belgian Elites) are propably the most experienced warriors of the tribe. Their skills with the sword and the shield outmatch most foes.
    These men are older men, with years of experience in war. They are near fearless, and are perfectly able to fit any form on the battlefield.
    They gained rank in the hierarchy of their tribe. Men with service can afford better equipment, such as mail, iron helmets and a large shield, with a sharp shortsword.
    They prefer the shortsword above the longsword, because the shortsword is a deadly weapon in experienced hands.
    Their role in the battlefield is fitting the most as line infantry.

    Belgische Herenruiters



    The Belgian were famous for their cavalry, especially the remii. The rest also had a kinda connection with the horse: the Belgian horse was commonly longer then the ancient pony's, and the physical power of the horse was also a lot higher.
    Belgian cavalry could easily eliminate Roman cavalry, by distracting them and then killing them. The pony's were probably scared for the large horse breed.

    In ancient belgae culture, a noble was only a noble if he possess a horse.
    These heren (nobles) were armed and armoured with the finest quality equipment they could afford; La Tene longswords, Mail and javelins.

    WIPWIPWIPWIPWIP

    Please, COMMENTS!

    Thanks to:

    Me, for all the efforts i did.
    Pinarius, for his awesome realistic horses.
    Last edited by Valkar; July 15, 2011 at 05:21 AM.

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    you are one hell of a modeler! The only remark I have is about the slinger shields, they look kind of... "modern design" -ish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishguy View Post
    you are one hell of a modeler! The only remark I have is about the slinger shields, they look kind of... "modern design" -ish
    I agree with Irishguy!!

    Very good work anyway, +Rep (when I can)!!

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    Good work. +rep


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    looking really nice, but the slinger's shield has to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishguy View Post
    you are one hell of a modeler! The only remark I have is about the slinger shields, they look kind of... "modern design" -ish
    Agreed! +rep too!
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    Very nice

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    Feels very good to hear that from you both

    EDIT:

    Yes! Finally got the stupid thing running. i mean the Modfolder

    Edit: New unit in preview
    Belgaecavalry:
    Last edited by Valkar; July 14, 2011 at 09:47 AM.

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    2 New Belgae Cavalry units;

    Remische Elite corps


    Belgische Zware cavalrie. (Heavy cavalry


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    Your work is very nice, Davy! Keepit up!
    Click on my sig and check out my modelling works! Your opinion is welcome!


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    Great job...but...Adellijken look rather silly with ther helmits...

    Quote Originally Posted by Davyjones View Post
    Yes! Finally got the stupid thing running. i mean the Modfolder.
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    A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.

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    You mean the Battersae helmet with the Belgae noble?
    A perfectly normal helmet for a Belgae noble

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    the Belgae are devils (still are)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davyjones View Post
    You mean the Battersae helmet with the Belgae noble?
    A perfectly normal helmet for a Belgae noble

    Are you shore??It...just looks...silly...And is it historicly accurate?

    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    the Belgae are devils (still are)

    To me it dosent look develysh...just silly...
    A bomb's a bad choice for close-range combat.

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    yea I know but it has some pointy things that look a bit like horns (like the devil)

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    Great work with the units and even greater work with getting the modfolder to work. Seriously though maybe from now on you'll know to always start a new mod in modfolder format to save you all the bother later on

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