Good and Bad News on Naval Models

[Aanker]

This morning, I did some testing on naval models by replacing the Ironclad model (used by the dreadnoughts, pre-dreadnoughts and battlecruisers) with the 38-gun Steam Ship model (used by cargo ships).

The game did not crash, and I was able to load the battle succesfully. As you can see in the attached picture, the model of the ship is, quite amazingly, that of the 38-gun Steam Ship. This means that it is possible to switch models on the ships.

Furthermore, having a rigging (found in the logic.xml.rigging) apparently unrelated to the model (which is the case here, the masts are obviously too big and are floating above the ship model) will not cause CTDs. This is obviously a good thing, since we don't want our World War I-era ships to have sails like those ships of the line from the 19th and 18th century.

Lastly - and this might be a problem - you can clearly see that the guns and the crew are misplaced. In fact, they have kept their Ironclad position and deck structure, and this is something that I believe is unrelated to the rigging. The problem with this is that it means that we have to identify the file(s) responsible for the cannon and crew positioning, but at least changing models will not cause a (CTD) conflict.

- Aanker, Chief of the Experimental Department

[Darkhorse]

Looks promising, I hope you can fix the gun decks and things. Would you do me a favour and let me know how this turns out? I have an idea for a project and this is vital to it.

[sns]

Very Nice!
Mmmm but do you cant just delte the animations of the crew??
On a battlecruiser of WW1 there was nearly no crew on the deck they all where in the ship....


bye

[antisocialmunky]

Awesome.

[Aanker]

Another update!

I replaced the Ironclad logic.xml.rigging file with that of the 38-gun Steam Ship, and, as expected, the masts changed positions, while the crew and guns did not (see image).

This means that the file governing the position of guns and crew in ships will have to be identified, something that might take a very, very, long time.

[Don_yuri]

Nice work up to date. Keep it up, the next version looks like its coming along beautifully.

[RO Citizen]

Well, it will require a bit of work, but atleast you replaced the model! That's great. +rep

[Aanker]

Off-topic posts deleted.

-Aanker

[Audacia]

Any progress on this yet mate?

[Aanker]

Any progress on this yet mate?

If you have seen my mod workshop thread, you'll see that the most likely candidate for investigation is the models_naval table, which is sadly unreadable by the PFM at the moment.

[Audacia]

If you have seen my mod workshop thread, you'll see that the most likely candidate for investigation is the models_naval table, which is sadly unreadable by the PFM at the moment.

Ah yes I have found the thread thanks

[williamtell0]

What happens when it fires?

[Aanker]

What happens when it fires?

The gunfire animations are attached to the guns, so the cannons fire "correctly", and not from the 38-gun Steam Ship gun positions.