Faction speculation thread

[Mediolanicus]

It would be Great if Thracians added again
Thrakians
bosporan kingdom
balto-slavic
Alpin-celtic

You've got a Trakian tribe in EB.
Bosporan kingdom is already confirmed for sometime
Slavs? In 270BC?

[divinelight]

You've got a Trakian tribe in EB.
Bosporan kingdom is already confirmed for sometime
Slavs? In 270BC?

Why in my EB cant find the Thrakians?
why not? there are many slavic cultures dates to 270BC right ?

[Mediolanicus]

Why in my EB cant find the Thrakians?
why not? there are many slavic cultures dates to 270BC right ?

For the same reason you can't find "The Gauls" or "The Britons" or "The Spaniards".
Proto-Slavic perhaps... and even then... 400 later and you have some idea about those. But at this time, the ancestors of the Slavs are rather obscure.

[divinelight]

oh yes lack of information

[satripor]

Adding a Thracian Tribe (Traikioi), represented by the Odrysae, would be excellent addition to the campaign map of EB.

The achievements of ancient Thrace are well known (a lot of mercenaries in the Hellenic armies, along with elite Rhomphaiophoroi warriors; Ares - the god of war, Orpheus - the god of music; many thracian names of persons, towns and tribal groups are recorded).

By the 3 century b.c. they are somewhat obscure, but still maintain a kingdom of some importans on the Balkans, and even survived till the time of the early Roman empire.

Both Getai and Odrysae were "Thracian" factions, though they had a lot of differences between them (much more than the differences between the two "Gallic" factions Aedui and Arverni).

[Valkar]

I think two Gallic factions, and 1 Celtic faction is far too much.
Two Thracian Factions is a possibility. But i am more pleased with one.
And a Belgian Tribe? Possibly, but it will become a kinda copy of the Gauls, while the Belgians had bands with the Germanics (both Ethnic and Cultural.)
Its best if anyone consider the Belgians as a Celto-Germanic tribe, with Germanic Ancestors.
And Please, remove the Pritanoi. As the guys from Rome Total Realism said:

The Britons were historically insignificant. They did little more than be conquered by the Romans. They were isolationist, though they had ties to Celtic Gaul, and the Parisii tribe, along with others, of Gaul fled to Britannia after the Gallic revolt led by Vercingetorix failed.

If there are 5 faction slots left?
1. The Goths/Rugii/Gepids? Or any Germanic faction, as extra
2. Belgae?
3. A Slavic or Baltic tribe
4. Lydians/Phrygians?
5. ?

[Mediolanicus]

I think two Gallic factions, and 1 Celtic faction is far too much.
Two Thracian Factions is a possibility. But i am more pleased with one.
And a Belgian Tribe? Possibly, but it will become a kinda copy of the Gauls, while the Belgians had bands with the Germanics (both Ethnic and Cultural.)
Its best if anyone consider the Belgians as a Celto-Germanic tribe, with Germanic Ancestors.
And Please, remove the Pritanoi. As the guys from Rome Total Realism said:
"The Britons were historically insignificant. They did little more than be conquered by the Romans. They were isolationist, though they had ties to Celtic Gaul, and the Parisii tribe, along with others, of Gaul fled to Britannia after the Gallic revolt led by Vercingetorix failed."

If there are 5 faction slots left?
1. The Goths/Rugii/Gepids? Or any Germanic faction, as extra
2. Belgae?
3. A Slavic or Baltic tribe
4. Lydians/Phrygians?
5. ?

Your historical insights never stop to amaze me...

[Valkar]

Maybe you can say what you don't like instead of saying simple and rude that my Historical Arguments suck

[Mediolanicus]

1. And Please, remove the Pritanoi.
2. "The Britons were historically insignificant. They did little more than be conquered by the Romans."

1. That's just plain rude.
2. Would leave us with Romani, a bunch of Germanic factions and Pahlava as only viable EB factions.

If there are 5 faction slots left?
1. The Goths/Rugii/Gepids? Or any Germanic faction, as extra
2. Belgae?
3. A Slavic or Baltic tribe
4. Lydians/Phrygians?
5. ?

1. 500 years too early for those
2. Which one? If the EB team can find a suitable tribe, then OK, but if not, then they'll have to be represented like the Illyrians and Tracians.
3. Slavic (few centuries too early), Baltic (no sources, but the Luganoi are influenced by the proto-Baltic culture)
4. Few centuries too late to be independent kingdoms

[divinelight]

I think two Gallic factions, and 1 Celtic faction is far too much.
Two Thracian Factions is a possibility. But i am more pleased with one.
And a Belgian Tribe? Possibly, but it will become a kinda copy of the Gauls, while the Belgians had bands with the Germanics (both Ethnic and Cultural.)
Its best if anyone consider the Belgians as a Celto-Germanic tribe, with Germanic Ancestors.
And Please, remove the Pritanoi. As the guys from Rome Total Realism said:

If there are 5 faction slots left?
1. The Goths/Rugii/Gepids? Or any Germanic faction, as extra
2. Belgae?
3. A Slavic or Baltic tribe
4. Lydians/Phrygians?
5. ?

Phrygians and their empire was destroyed in that time,for what i know their empire destroyed by the Cimmerian invaders later they had a small kingdome with Lydians but it lived too short because Medians came and I think they took over it.
and pre-Slavic would be good but unfortunately there is not much information and its obscure just like the Cimmerians.
Goths? Its like the Slavs,Goths were not been emerged or they were still living in Götaland and later they migrated to south and become knowen as goths. i dont know too much but I think it would be too difficult to create one of them,
And again adding Thrakians would be great

[Visarion]

I just love this thread!

[dajarvi]

Your historical insights never stop to amaze me...

I've followed your guys's conversations on other threads. I have to agree with Medolanicus. Sorry Valkar. And yes, Divinelight, you need more information. The reason for this is so that when I say the Greeks originated from the Vulcans and the Romans from the Romulans, you won't believe me (unless of course you're the sort of person who believes the moon is made of cheese)

[Valkar]

1. That's just plain rude.
2. Would leave us with Romani, a bunch of Germanic factions and Pahlava as only viable EB factions.



1. 500 years too early for those
2. Which one? If the EB team can find a suitable tribe, then OK, but if not, then they'll have to be represented like the Illyrians and Tracians.
3. Slavic (few centuries too early), Baltic (no sources, but the Luganoi are influenced by the proto-Baltic culture)
4. Few centuries too late to be independent kingdoms

Thats way better Friendly and positive Critics..
1. Wielbark culture (goths) is around 500 BC
2. Eburonii is maybe good.
3. I like the Lugii, so that can pass..
4. damn...

[Visarion]

I'd say Scordisci or Serdi; Autariatae, Ardiaioi or Dardani; Norici/Taurisci; Bastarnae; Tribaloi or Odrysae; Medians or Caucasian Iberians; Tocharians and of course some Iberians

[wiande]

Just thinking out from a gameplay point of view,

need to see how AI will act cause in EB most factions never use their fleet to travel.

As a player i just feel like "feeling up the gaps" on the map is a good idea, and balancing superpowers.

so the idea of a faction in the NE alps is my number 1 but it already has been done

the gap NE from germany is great too, cause expansion was too easy, so it was my number 2

the return of the numidian was my number 3

2 gauls factions are enough

+1 iberian faction would be awesome (exept if they're allies)

one tracian faction would be cool

one other faction in asia minor would be cool, balancing (or trying) seleukids/ptolemeans

[Team Sleep]

I'm not even going to attempt to pretend I'm going to know what the hell I'm talking about. But what I do know from EBI is that there sure is a LOT of space out there in the steppes and what seems to be only a handful of nomad nations to claim it. Just wondering with all the geographic space that is/was out there...is it not credible that there must be some other nomad faction lurking out there that would be worthy for the EB team to put in the game? And also...I thought this would be somewhat of a mutual idea either by the EB team or it's fans...yet I've seen nothing of this nature posted in much of the faction speculation threads. Heh...maybe I'm the only one out there that wouldn't mind seeing a new Nomad faction.

I'm also not even going to pretend like I did the research to find such a tribe/faction in the steppes. But if not one single other tribe of nomads exists in that vast territory that EB team would put in due to lack of evidence or research or whatever...then I wonder why? Were these types of factions typically hard to pin down because of their nature to live along large swaths of land and constantly live life on the move? I know one of the major factors for deciding a faction to go into the mod is the availability of accurate information regarding a given faction.

Would anyone else care to see a new nomadic faction vie for control over the steppes with the other existing ones? I know I would.

What are your feelings about this EB Team?
What are your feelings about this EB Fans?

[eddy_purpus]

I would love to see a tribe/faction of the likes of Schytia and or Sweboz in that region too Team sleep..
But the brains in here are the EB team members and as you know ...They like to keep us on the grid wating for a new faction preview and wandering when it will be ready...
I really hope for another tribe in that area TS...

[THE IBERIAN]

I think Caucasian Iberians and one more Iberian faction in Iberia itself should be made and it would be awesome
although I know there are sources about Caucasian Iberians and good sources, but are difficult to find, could help although with them if was asked
btw 1 steppe faction would be good indeed

[Visarion]

Thank you guys! Carpi/Costoboci and Syracuse are other possibilities, knowing that Massalia, Bithynia, Cyrene and others are excluded... oh and Nabateea... Atropatene is very likely...

[Valkar]

I'd say Scordisci or Serdi; Autariatae, Ardiaioi or Dardani; Norici/Taurisci; Bastarnae; Tribaloi or Odrysae; Medians or Caucasian Iberians; Tocharians and of course some Iberians

Not bad idea, the Bastarnae! It fills a gap between thracia/dacia and Germans

Just thinking out from a gameplay point of view,

need to see how AI will act cause in EB most factions never use their fleet to travel.

As a player i just feel like "feeling up the gaps" on the map is a good idea, and balancing superpowers.

so the idea of a faction in the NE alps is my number 1 but it already has been done

the gap NE from germany is great too, cause expansion was too easy, so it was my number 2

the return of the numidian was my number 3

2 gauls factions are enough

+1 iberian faction would be awesome (exept if they're allies)

one tracian faction would be cool

one other faction in asia minor would be cool, balancing (or trying) seleukids/ptolemeans

Wich faction you've got in mind?

And Personally i think 1 Gallic Faction is more then Enough... A maximum of 2 Celtic factions, and im happy