Faction speculation thread

[Xerrop]

About Atropatene: Don´t know, but I guess yes, cause there is not much free space in the era.
But I would love them - the east needs more diversity and factions. Usually most people suggest only (western) european faction from Ireland and Scotland to Belgae, Greeks in Gallia or Spain (Massilia, Emporion), Celtiberi or a second german faction.

meroe (has somebody from the team alredy ruled them out or why is nobody suggesting them?)

Well they were often suggested. Cause they would make an interesting, exotic and unique faction.
But as all seven culture slots are in use they won´t include them. The EB team is looking about historical accuracy and when their family members would look Hellenistic or Semitic (and have also those names, architecture and traits) it seems not right for them.

[Horatius Flaccus]

Have atropatene been ruled out or are they still a possibility?

Still very much a possibility, but I think that if they are going to include a new faction in that region it probably will be the Kingdom of Kartli.

[Balbor]

we can make all settlements have "slave" as their faction_creator which would then ensure that these settlements rebelled to the slave faction. However, all settlements would have to the same, as the slave faction as only one culture. In EBII the "slave" faction as the western greek culture, and that means that all settlements belonging to the "slave" faction would look like a western greek settlement, whether it be in the vast reaches of the Steppe, or the deserts of Arabia. For aesthetic reasons we have decided not to go this route.

Foot

I posted a question about settles rebelling in M2TW and got this reply

Whenever a city rebels it comes under the control of Slave faction there is no doubt in that.

Now the faction_creator thing in the descr_strat.txt file is a whole different thing. It basically denotes the building structure of the settlement and thats all in my opinion. Like for e.g. if a Islamic capture a settlement and upgrade it will have a Islamic type structure now if the same settlement gets captured by say england then it upgrades it will be north_european structure. If a settlement rebels the faction_creator doesn't change.

[Balbor]

Kingdom of Cappadocia?

[Mediolanicus]

Ruled out.

[Balbor]

Running out of options here, without going into faction which don't come into prominence until after the start date there cannot be too many options which fulfill the requirements for a faction to be included. And some factions would would normally meet the requirements but will not be included due to over crowded regions (such as another Greek League).

[ignoramus maximus]

Massagetai?

[Anubis88]

Massagetai?

Mentioned as a possibility, but never elaborated

[ignoramus maximus]

I think they would be interesting to play as.

[Brapbrapbap]

Are you going to add Russia?


There was no Russian in EB1, fix that please.

[Dan Rares]

Are you going to add Russia?


There was no Russian in EB1, fix that please.

This is a joke right ?

[The10thLegion]

This is a joke right ?

No! They would make a great addition along with America! Start the Cold War 2 thousand years early haha

[bce]

I would like to see some kind of Galatian faction as well. I'm not sure if any Galatian state was established by 272BC, but EB1 has a region called Galatia with barbarian culture. So I don't see why they shouldn't be included, other than the fact that the region is becoming crowded.

Media would be another interesting choice, though I don't think they were independent at the game's start (neither were Parthia or Bactria though)

[bce]

I would like to see some kind of Galatian faction as well. I'm not sure if any Galatian state was established by 272BC, but EB1 has a region called Galatia with barbarian culture. So I don't see why they shouldn't be included, other than the fact that the region is becoming crowded.

[dromychaetes]

I think they took Tylis around that period, maybe a few decades after, I'm not sure to the exact date, but I'm pretty sure they make Tylis their town before moving forward towards Greece and Turkey.

[bobbin]

Tylis was a seperate celtic state that founded during the Galatian migrations, it was independant of the Galatian state in Anatolia. Both existed at EB's start date.

[dromychaetes]

Well in EBI Ankyra was a Arverni settlement I think, so if EBII would want to be more accurate, than they can make Ankyra and that part of Turkey as Galatian territory,which it actually was. As to Tylis being a separate statal entity, that is probably right, but the ethnicity of the celts that took Tylis was probably the same with that of those who tried to sack the oracle at Delphi and with that of those who decided to stay in central Turkey. To my knowledge the term "Galatian" refers to the Eastern Celts.

[Mediolanicus]

Well in EBI Ankyra was a Arverni settlement I think, so if EBII would want to be more accurate, than they can make Ankyra and that part of Turkey as Galatian territory,which it actually was. As to Tylis being a separate statal entity, that is probably right, but the ethnicity of the celts that took Tylis was probably the same with that of those who tried to sack the oracle at Delphi and with that of those who decided to stay in central Turkey. To my knowledge the term "Galatian" refers to the Eastern Celts.

You think wrong.

The parent faction of Akyra was indeed Arverni though (= it rebels to Arverni). But if that was not the case, Ankyra would have had Western Greek culture (base culture of the rebels).

[Balbor]

from what i've been told settlements in M2TW always rebel to the slave faction, the creator faction i used to decided the culture for building and units etc (i think).

[Æsir]

How about Baltoslavic faction? Like Venedi-Aesti confederation or something?