Supreme commander 1 Universe VS 40k on land

[knight of virtue and valor]

now we all know that 40k is OP on land and all that but I really think that 40k could kick the shiz out of most of them. for example the UED mech marine has no fear, is three times as big as a normal human, and has a big laser that's at least as big as a sm bolter. and that's yer cheap ass ground unit. so what do you guys think (please dont mention supcom2 I consider it as ruined Empire earth)

[Ulysses S. Grant]

40K has Tau, which are more or less the same.

[Mithie]

Supreme commander wins by a curbstomp.

The only way 40k can conceivably win is if they can mission-kill the ACU as soon as he jumps in.

Otherwise, give the ACU an hour and he'll have a self-replenishing army that can cover half the planet. You don't with a universe that has the technology that can interchange mass and energy willy-nilly and on the fly.

40K has Tau, which are more or less the same.

Unless the Tau can land one guy on a planet an churn out an exponentially growing organized war machine in a matter of hours, then no, they're not the same. At all.

[Silo]

40K has Tau, which are more or less the same.

Except that the Tau don't drop a Scout Titan sized Mech right onto a planet and have a fully operational planetary force aswell as military infrastructure a few hours later.


If we assume that no side has a vast superiority concerning weapon power or armour/shield resistance SupCom would most likely stomp any 40k ground force easily due to the enormous production capabilities that can be created in nearly an instant (concerning a strategic timescale) and relatively near to the frontlines. And even if we assume that 40k weapons are superior (which imo is not the case) SupCom could probably still curbstomp them due to the afformentioned reasons.

Comparing the strength of individual units against each other is imo pretty pointless as we have nearly no actual values concerning weapon power for either universe, hence we are left with comparing unit size which is pretty much equally over the top for both sides concerning the largest units and realtively similar concerning small units with the exception of SupCom not fielding any actual infantry.

[knight of virtue and valor]

well I saw a human next to a supcom unit in a trailer and he was roughly the size of its toe. supcom would only have probs with the tyranids (we heard how big their REAL fleet is) and a new lol huge chaos demon horde.

[Mithie]

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If we assume that no side has a vast superiority concerning weapon power or armour/shield resistance SupCom would most likely stomp any 40k ground force easily due to the enormous production capabilities that can be created in nearly an instant (concerning a strategic timescale) and relatively near to the frontlines. And even if we assume that 40k weapons are superior (which imo is not the case) SupCom could probably still curbstomp them due to the afformentioned reasons.

Power levels are on-par with each other.

Sup-com high end has 100 MT nukes (from sup com 2 website) while 40k has ~40 MT cannons on the Warhound titan.

On the low end, sup com has T1 assault bots with shots that can topple trees handily, so 5MJ - 6MJ, which is about the same as an IG auto-cannon.

well I saw a human next to a supcom unit in a trailer and he was roughly the size of its toe. supcom would only have probs with the tyranids (we heard how big their REAL fleet is) and a new lol huge chaos demon horde.

In a purely ground battle, sup com can out-produce the Tyranids if given a sufficient head start. As long as the Tyranids don't collectively ram the planet into disintegration, theoretically, a sup com ACU should be able to stand his ground indefinitely. Every tyranid death means more mass for the ACU while every tyrannic death means less mass for the hive fleet.There would be no organic matter for the nids to absorb, while the ACU can reclaim all tyrannic remains.

[Ratzor]

In a purely ground battle, sup com can out-produce the Tyranids if given a sufficient head start. As long as the Tyranids don't collectively ram the planet into disintegration, theoretically, a sup com ACU should be able to stand his ground indefinitely. Every tyranid death means more mass for the ACU while every tyrannic death means less mass for the hive fleet.There would be no organic matter for the nids to absorb, while the ACU can reclaim all tyrannic remains.

I think it would play out pretty interesting between a sup com and the nids, it would essentially be a race for who can deplete the others mass first. The mass might be recovered by the hive fleet just as likely

[Silo]

I think it would play out pretty interesting between a sup com and the nids, it would essentially be a race for who can deplete the others mass first. The mass might be recovered by the hive fleet just as likely

The problem is that SupCom has effective energy<->mass conversion that allows them to pretty much produce an infinite amount of mass provided enough time...the mass recovered from tyranid corpses is pretty much just a bonus

[the_mango55]

On land this is no contest, Supreme Commander forces would demolish 40k.

I think it would play out pretty interesting between a sup com and the nids, it would essentially be a race for who can deplete the others mass first. The mass might be recovered by the hive fleet just as likely

The Tyranids would avoid them like the plauge if they had any sense. Nids can only consume biomass, Supreme Commander armies don't have biomass. Even if the nids happened to win a battle, it would be for nothing.

Only problem SupCom has in 40k, and it's a significant problem, is that they don't have sci-fi standard fare FTL engines. And as far as I know, don't have any massive fleets. They have big ships, but we haven't seen them used in battle and they have no way of practically moving them anywhere not connected to the quantum network.

[Ratzor]

The problem is that SupCom has effective energy<->mass conversion that allows them to pretty much produce an infinite amount of mass provided enough time...the mass recovered from tyranid corpses is pretty much just a bonus

On land this is no contest, Supreme Commander forces would demolish 40k.



The Tyranids would avoid them like the plauge if they had any sense. Nids can only consume biomass, Supreme Commander armies don't have biomass. Even if the nids happened to win a battle, it would be for nothing.

Only problem SupCom has in 40k, and it's a significant problem, is that they don't have sci-fi standard fare FTL engines. And as far as I know, don't have any massive fleets. They have big ships, but we haven't seen them used in battle and they have no way of practically moving them anywhere not connected to the quantum network.

Well, I can hardly call myself an expert in the field anyway But arn't we overlooking the Nids ability to adapt to their foes? Biomass is the single most useful resource in WH40K as it exist on every habitable planet and all speices is made up of it. It they would crush into sup comm space they might just adapt to eating and digesting metal into its needs?

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[hellheaven1987]

I hate to admit it but Supreme Commander would win in this case - I mean, creating endless army even quicker than Tyranid??

[Sanguinary Guardian]

Oh yeah? Sup Com would win? How about a huge battle fleet in orbit around the planet??Bye, bye ACU....no way that Sup Com would win...no way in hell, since the spaceships in Sup Com are weak when compared to the vessels of 40k....

[hellheaven1987]

Oh yeah? Sup Com would win? How about a huge battle fleet in orbit around the planet??Bye, bye ACU....no way that Sup Com would win...no way in hell, since the spaceships in Sup Com are weak when compared to the vessels of 40k....

Someone would probably throw an ACU on one Emperor class battleship and produce millions army from there.

[knight of virtue and valor]

arent 40k ships a bit slow to meet supcom threats in time? they do have qauntam gates.

[Sanguinary Guardian]

The 40K vessels have FTL....

[Outlawstar15a2]

Yeah, but does Supreme Commander have magic? Energy-Mass conversion or not. Get a powerful enough collection of Psykers and each can lay waste to an entire army.

Magic is a strength all it's own.

[hellheaven1987]

Yeah, but does Supreme Commander have magic? Energy-Mass conversion or not. Get a powerful enough collection of Psykers and each can lay waste to an entire army.

Magic is a strength all it's own.

Magic is the power of Tzeentch.

Besides, I am pretty sure Mechanicus would happily dump Imperium and join Supreme Commander if they meet eachother.

[Ratzor]

Magic is the power of Tzeentch.

Besides, I am pretty sure Mechanicus would happily dump Imperium and join Supreme Commander if they meet eachother.

Unlikely, all other tech invented by aliens have been deamed heretic. It would be void of a machine spirit or something

[Outlawstar15a2]

Magic is the power of Tzeentch.

Besides, I am pretty sure Mechanicus would happily dump Imperium and join Supreme Commander if they meet eachother.

Doesn't matter cause if we doing 40K vs. SupCom. The you have to factor in not only Tzeentch's psyker's but also Slaanesh's, Nurgle's, Imperium's, Eldar's, Ork's, Tyranids', and everybody else's.

[hellheaven1987]

Doesn't matter cause if we doing 40K vs. SupCom. The you have to factor in not only Tzeentch's psyker's but also Slaanesh's, Nurgle's, Imperium's, Eldar's, Ork's, Tyranids', and everybody else's.

You mean we should form an United Front against Supreme Commander?? I doubt Grant would ever allow his Necron join us.