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    Hungarian Revolution of 1848

    The Hungarian Revolution of 1848 was one of many revolutions that year and closely linked to other revolutions of 1848 in the Habsburg areas. The revolution in the Kingdom of Hungary grew into a war for independence from Habsburg rule.
    1848 - 1849

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    During the Napoleonic Wars and afterwards, the Hungarian Diet had not convened for decades.[citation needed] In the 1820s, the Emperor was forced to convene the Diet, and thus a Reform Period (Hungarian: reformkor) began. Nevertheless, its progress was slow, because the nobles insisted on retaining their privileges (no taxation, exclusive voting rights, etc.). Therefore the achievements were mostly of national character (e.g. introduction of Hungarian as one of the official languages of the country, instead of the former Latin).
    Count István Széchenyi, one of the most prominent statesmen of the country recognized the urgent need of modernization and his message got through. The Hungarian Parliament was summoned once again in 1825 to handle financial needs. A liberal party emerged in the Diet. The party focused on providing for the peasantry. Lajos Kossuth - famous journalist at that time - emerged as leader of the lower peoplegentry in the Parliament. Habsburg monarchs tried to preclude[citation needed] the industrialisation of the country. A remarkable upswing started as the nation concentrated its forces on modernisation even though the Habsburg monarchs obstructed all important liberal laws about the human civil and political rights and economic reforms. Many reformers (like Lajos Kossuth, Mihály Táncsics) were imprisoned by the authorities.
    [edit]The Revolution

    See: April laws
    The Revolution started on March 15, 1848, with bloodless events in Pest and Buda (mass demonstrations forcing the imperial governor to accept all demands), followed by various insurrections throughout the kingdom, which enabled Hungarian reformists to declare Hungary's new government and the first Prime Minister Lajos Batthyány of Hungary. The new government approved a sweeping reform package, referred to as the "April laws" (also referred to as the "March Laws"), which essentially created a democratical political system[1] in Hungary. They also demanded that the Hungarian government receive and expend all taxes raised in Hungary, and have authority over Hungarian regiments in the Habsburg army.


    The Hungarian cockade used in 1848
    In the summer of 1848, aware that they were on the path to civil war, the Hungarian government ministers attempted to gain Habsburg support against Conservative Josip Jelačić by offering to send troops to northern Italy. By the end of August, the imperial government in Vienna officially ordered the Hungarian government in Pest to end plans for a Hungarian army. Jelačić then took military action against the Hungarian government without any official order.
    With war raging on three fronts (against the Jelačić's Croatian troops, in the Banat, and in Transylvania), Hungarian radicals in Pest saw this as an opportunity. Parliament made concessions to the radicals in September rather than let the events erupt into violent confrontations. Faced with revolution at home in Vienna too, Austria at first accepted Hungary's government. However, after the Austrian revolution was beaten down, and Franz Joseph I replaced his mentally handicapped uncle Ferdinand I as Emperor, Austria again refused to accept Hungarian government. The final break between Vienna and Pest occurred when Field Marshall Count Lamberg was given control of all armies in Hungary (including Jelačić's). In response to Lamberg being attacked & viciously murdered by a peasant mob upon his arrival in Hungary a few days later, the Imperial court ordered the Hungarian parliament and government dissolved. Jelačić was appointed to take Lamberg's place. War between Austria and Hungary had officially begun.
    [edit]War of Independence

    The Austrian ruler and his advisors skillfully manipulated the Croatian, Serbian and Romanian peasantry, led by priests and officers firmly loyal to the Habsburgs, and induced them to rebel against the Hungarian government. The Hungarians were supported by the vast majority of the Slovak, German and Rusyn nationalities, as well as by the Jews of the kingdom, and by a large number of Polish, Austrian and Italian volunteers. [2]


    Battle at Tápióbicske (4 April 1849) by Mór Than
    Initially, the Hungarian forces (Honvédség) achieved several victories[3][4] fighting with Austrian armies (at Pákozd in September 1848 and at Isaszeg in April 1849), during which they even declared Hungary's total independence from the Habsburg Empire, in April 1849. Because of the success of revolutional resistance, Franz Joseph had to ask for help from "The Gendarme of Europe", Czar Nicholas I, and Russian armies invaded Hungary, causing antagonism between the Hungarians and the Russians.
    The war led to the October Crisis in Vienna, when insurgents attacked a garrison on its way to Hungary to support Jelačić's forces. After Vienna was recaptured by imperial forces, General Windischgrätz and 70,000 troops were sent to Hungary to crush the last challenge to the Austrian Empire. By the end of December, the Hungarian government evacuated Pest. However this army had to retreat after heavy defeats from March to May 1849 and General Windischgrätz was removed as well. Without destroying the Austrian army, the Hungarians stopped, besieged Buda and prepared defenses. In June 1849 Russian and Austrian troops entered Hungary heavily outnumbering the Hungarian army. After all appeals to other European states failed, Kossuth abdicated on August 11, 1849 in favor of Artúr Görgey, whom he thought was the only general who was capable of saving the nation. On August 13, Görgey signed the surrender at Világos (now Şiria, Romania) to the Russians, who handed the army over to the Austrians.[5]


    Surrender of Hungarian Army at Világos 1849


    Kossuth in New York, (1852)
    Julius Jacob von Haynau, the leader of the Austrian army who then became governor of Hungary for a few months of retribution, ordered the execution of 13 leaders of the Hungarian army in Arad and the Prime minister Batthyány in Pest.
    [edit]The revolution's suppression and what happened to Kossuth

    Following the war of 1848–49, the whole country was in "passive resistance". Archduke Albrecht, Duke of Teschen was appointed regent (civil and military governor) of the Kingdom of Hungary in 1851, being relieved of the post in 1860, and this time was remembered for Germanization.
    Lajos Kossuth went into exile after the revolution. In the US he was most warmly received by the general public as well as the Secretary of State at that time Daniel Webster, leading to tensions in US-Austrian relations for the next twenty years, and a Kossuth County, Iowa was named in the honor of his great contributions. He then traveled through Istanbul, Turkey and Turin, Italy.
    Deciding his biggest political error of the Revolution was the confrontation with the minorities of Hungary, he popularized the idea of a multi-ethnic confederation of republics along the Danube, which might have prevented the escalation of hostile feelings between the ethnic groups in these areas. Many of Kossuth's revolutionary comrades in exile, including the sons of one of his sisters, as well as other supporters of the 1848 revolution, (usually referred as "Forty-Eighters") stayed in the USA, and fought on the Union side in the US Civil War.

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    I thinking on this mod idea.

    My plan:
    - Historical starting position
    - New hungarian units
    - Historical events

    I'm new in the Napoleon moding and i have some question.

    My questions:
    - We are able modification the factions starting position in Napoleon?
    - We are able influence the factions diplomacy relation position in Napoleon?
    - We are able adding the (playable) Hungarian faction in Napoleon?
    - We are able adding new units for Hungarian faction in Napoleon?
    - We are able importing some Empire's units in Napoleon?
    ( I would make some units with new model in Empire and i could import in Napoleon if possible)

    What do you think?

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    Preview:
    (I'm ready with the some base model.)




    Magyar Honvéd - Late Hungarian Infantry

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    Everything you mentioned is possible, EXCEPT I am not sure if you can import models from empire, maybe!

    Good Luck!! I would liek a mod (maybe not Based on the hungarian revolution) Based in 1848!!!

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    Thanks V4SS1ly The J0k3r!
    I think the first step is the Hungarian revolution's 1848 not whole europe.
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    TopCat wrote me:
    - We are able modification the factions starting position in Napoleon? Yes
    - We are able influence the factions diplomacy relation position in Napoleon? Yes
    - We are able adding the (playable) Hungarian faction in Napoleon? Yes, same as Empire - if it doesnt exist, it must replace another one.
    - We are able adding new units for Hungarian faction in Napoleon? Yes
    - We are able importing some Empire's units in Napoleon? Yes
    Thanks mate!
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    This mod would be completely amaizing!

    I'm a proud Hungarian fellow so the 1848 revolution means a lot for me.

    Please, do it.

    I know that modifying the map is not possible until (if ever) CA gives us modding tools, but would it be possible to make Budapest into a major city?
    And to add more towns?

    Another annoying things are the names. About 2/3 of the hungarian names in NTW/ETW are female names.

    EDIT:
    Nem tudtam hogy magyar vagy, akkor a fent említettekkel biztos tisztába vagy!

    Sok sikert!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Csocso View Post
    This mod would be completely amaizing!
    I'm a pride Hungarian fellow so the 1848 revolution means a lot for me.
    Please, do it.
    Me to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Csocso View Post
    I know that modifying the map is not possible until (if ever) CA gives us modding tools, but would it be possible to make Budapest into a major city?
    And to add more towns?
    Yes, i know. The map isn't high priority. We would use the original Napoleon map i think.
    (So, no more town at this moment )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Csocso View Post
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    Nem tudtam hogy magyar vagy, akkor a fent említettekkel biztos tisztába vagy!
    Sok sikert!
    Yes I'm magyar also, and thanks. ...and this is idea(plan) at this moment.

    (Ja magyar vagyok. Egyébként Derringer már nagyrészt megoldotta ezeket a dolgokat azt hiszem. Csak elszált a twonline.)
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    Everything you put is possible. I eagerly await this mod!

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    Danova

    nice idea and scenario for a mod, looking forward to your models!

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    As an ethnic Austrian/German it would be interesting to play this revolution on the Hungarian side

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    Welcome Danova
    So ,what exactly will be this mod ? Just units or campaign? We're talking about 1848 units ,not napoleonic era.
    Last edited by Count von Orlok; July 25, 2010 at 02:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primergy View Post
    Danova
    nice idea and scenario for a mod, looking forward to your models!
    Thanks Primergy!



    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Cuirassier View Post
    As an ethnic Austrian/German it would be interesting to play this revolution on the Hungarian side
    Yes, interesting point of view!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count von Orlok View Post
    Welcome Danova
    So ,what exactly will be this mod ? Just units or campaign? We're talking about 1848 units ,not napoleonic era.
    Just a little campaign mod. Hungarian starting position, new hungarian 1848's units, new events.
    This is my plan, firstly. ( i don't plan redesign all faction's units for 48's style...)

    Every help welcome!
    My field is units, not coding...
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    Last edited by danova; July 25, 2010 at 03:16 PM.

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    So only hungarians ,austrians and russians? These armies took part in this conflict (i think)

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    haha, you are eager! No! Only hungarian firstly...
    (I'm just a man not a company )
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    Last edited by danova; July 25, 2010 at 03:53 PM.

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    Danova, welcome in NTW!!! Good news!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzerschreck View Post
    Danova, welcome in NTW!!! Good news!!!
    Thanks mate, but i just looking for help for this mod idea.
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    So we're gonna see these units ?


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    ... for example!
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    Good luck, danova!!! I hope it will expand to all Europe after Hungary.

    Hungary is already in-game as emergent, same as in ETW, btw.
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