Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread: The Grande Armee in 1805?

  1. #1
    Prince of Darkness's Avatar Campidoctor
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Taipei, ROC
    Posts
    1,957

    Default The Grande Armee in 1805?

    I was quite confused by the sources I've read about Napoleon's Grande Armee in 1805, the seven corps were each commanded by a marshal respectively, but some sources said the II Corps was commanded by Marmont (who was only a General de Division by that time), but some said it was commanded by Massena in Italy. But I thought that Massena's Italian Army who fought Caldiero wasn't a part of the Grande Armee's seven corps. It's quite confusing because Marmont was not a marshal and wikipedia said Brune was commanding in the English Channel and St. Cyr in Liguria.
    So:
    I Corps-Marshal Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte
    II Corps- GD Auguste Marmont or Marshal Jean-Andre Massena?
    III Corps- Marshal Louis Nicolas Davout
    IV Corps- Marshal Jean-de-dieu Soult
    V Corps-Marshal Jean Lannes
    VI Corps-Marshal Michel Ney
    VII Corps-Marshal Pierre Augereau
    VIII Corps (later raised)-Marshal Edouard Mortier

  2. #2

    Default Re: The Grande Armee in 1805?

    http://lesapn.forumactif.fr/les-mare...pire-t2238.htm

    Well this site says of Marmont 'He was not included in the list of Marshals in May 1804 . That did not prevent him fighting bravely at Ulm and Weyer (in 1805) at the head of the 2nd Corps of the Grande Armee.'
    I suppose that means he was commanding.
    Last edited by Jihada; July 13, 2010 at 06:32 AM.

  3. #3
    Prince of Essling's Avatar Napoleonic Enthusiast
    Patrician

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Surrey, England
    Posts
    2,434

    Default Re: The Grande Armee in 1805?

    See http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/805HAH.pdf for Orbat of Grande Armee.

    Marmont was promoted to the Marshalate at or soon after after Wagram in 1809 along with MacDonald & Oudinot. Suchet received his baton in 1811; St Cyr, Poniatowski & Grouchy got theirs in 1812, 1813 & 1815 respectively. Victor received his in 1807.

  4. #4

    Default Re: The Grande Armee in 1805?

    Perhaps the Corps were theater specific?

  5. #5
    Prince of Essling's Avatar Napoleonic Enthusiast
    Patrician

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Surrey, England
    Posts
    2,434

    Default Re: The Grande Armee in 1805?

    Massena's Army of Italy did not initially form part of La Grande Armee - this was reserved for the forces under Napoleon's command. Massena's Army was not organised along Corps lines see Orbat: http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/805JBG.pdf
    St Cyr from what I recollect was in Etruria (not Liguria) guarding Massena's backside from a possible anglo-russian descent; you will see he is shown as commanding the right wing of the Army of Italy - see http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/805KCF.pdf He ended up commanding the Army of Naples http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/805LCR.pdf
    Brune's Corps was left on the coast of the English Channel to deter any invasion by the British.
    Last edited by Prince of Essling; July 26, 2010 at 04:27 AM. Reason: correction

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •