Revolution Order of War | General Discussions

[ambien]

here is a link that describes the uniforms of Conde's officers and soldiers:

http://books.google.com/books?id=X0P...page&q&f=false

[EmperorBatman999]

What were the loyalties of the Grenadiers A Cheval? And how good of cavalrymen are they?

[Geronimo2006]

The Flandres regiment were Royalist but all the "Royal" regiments were disbanded by the Assembly in 1791. This regiment is remembered as having stamped on the tricolour-cockade (3.53 here) at a party hosted for them at Versailles (depicted in the "Revolution Francaise" movie). So maybe they could be a Royalist regiment. This was reported by Marat's newspaper "L'ami du Peuple", contributing to the women's march on Versailles.

[EmperorBatman999]

The Flandres regiment were Royalist but all the "Royal" regiments were disbanded by the Assembly in 1791. This regiment is remembered as having stamped on the tricolour-cockade (3.53 here) at a party hosted for them at Versailles (depicted in the "Revolution Francaise" movie). So maybe they could be a Royalist regiment. This was reported by Marat's newspaper "L'ami du Peuple", contributing to the women's march on Versailles.

Do you have a picture of their uniform?
Also, I can't use a specific regiment either. They're supposed to the Royalists' elite cavalry I'm trying to make.

[♔Oggie♔]

Those new units look great.
I can't wait to play this mod To play a nation (or the royalists) to restore Le Roi to the french throne.

[Geronimo2006]

Do you have a picture of their uniform?
Also, I can't use a specific regiment either. They're supposed to the Royalists' elite cavalry I'm trying to make.

See Flandres regiment uniform in 1786 below:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[ambien]

Maybe this guy should be Austria's main general (instead of archduke Charles). He was commander of the austrian forces in Flanders:

Prince Josias of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld

[EmperorBatman999]

See Flandres regiment uniform in 1786 below:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I need a guard cavalry unit, those are infantry.

Ambien, is he related to the British Royalty? Because Saxe-Coburg was (and still is) the Royal line of the British royalty.

[gary]

this is looking really good mate i look forward to playing when it is complete.rep

[ambien]

I need a guard cavalry unit, those are infantry.

Ambien, is he related to the British Royalty? Because Saxe-Coburg was (and still is) the Royal line of the British royalty.

You are correct! Prince Albert (Victoria's husband) was a member of the same family. Josia's brother was Albert's grandfather. So I guess that makes him Albert's grand-uncle.

As for a royalist elite cavalry, how about the Garde du Corps?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garde_du_Corps_(France)

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...ardes_du_Corps

here's a list of cavalry units in general (it's in french):

http://www.1789-1815.com/arfr4_cav_1791.htm

and this link gives add'l info on the king's household cavalry units of the ancien regime (as of 1703, but still could be useful):

http://www.spanishsuccession.nl/armi...regiments.html

[ambien]

And here are links to a website showing the names and uniforms of royalist hussar regiments:

http://www.warandgame.info/2009/12/f...hussars-i.html

http://www.warandgame.info/search?q=emigre

[EmperorBatman999]

And here are links to a website showing the names and uniforms of royalist hussar regiments:

http://www.warandgame.info/2009/12/f...hussars-i.html

http://www.warandgame.info/search?q=emigre

Thanks, but I'm already done with hussars.

I've been particularly interested in the Grenadiers A' Cheval, what were their loyalties, do you know? I know the Garde Francaisse helped the rebels, which made me choose the Garde Suisse.

[ambien]

Thanks, but I'm already done with hussars.

I've been particularly interested in the Grenadiers A' Cheval, what were their loyalties, do you know? I know the Garde Francaisse helped the rebels, which made me choose the Garde Suisse.

Garde du Corps may be your best bet for elite royalist cavalry. It appears that the grenadiers a cheval was disbanded in 1775 and reconstituted only in 1796 (as soldiers of the Republic).

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...al&redirect=no

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadi...Imp%C3%A9riale

Almost all of the elite units of the Royal Household were disbanded by 1787 b/c they were too expensive to maintain. The only military units of the Royal Household that existed in 1789 were the Garde du Corps, the Swiss Guards and the Gardes Francaises. It appears that the Garde du Corps (which was the longest-serving and highest-ranking cavalry regiment in the Royal Household) was loyal. The swords of the guardsmen were inscribed with "Vive le Roi!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_..._roi_de_France

[EmperorBatman999]

Ah, okay. So do you know a uniform from 1789 that I can use?

[Geronimo2006]

Is France going to start as a CM or an AM?

[ambien]

Ah, okay. So do you know a uniform from 1789 that I can use?

It appears that the uniform remained more or less consistent (also note that the officers rode grey horses. my gf (who is french and is standing over my shoulder) wants me to tell you that is very important...).

Here it is in 1786 (the closest in time to 1789 that I have seen):



And here is a link showing the uniform (and describing it in great detail for each company of the garde) during the 7 years war:

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...ardes_du_Corps

[md1453]

Awesome. Very excited about this one.

[ambien]

Ah, okay. So do you know a uniform from 1789 that I can use?

By the way, it is clear that the emigre armies used a garde de corps cavalry:

http://www.napoleon-series.org/resea...rs/c_pire.html

Other cavalry regiments that could be included are:

the Dauphin-Cavalerie

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9giment_du_Dauphin

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...phin_Cavalerie

and the Royal Allemand, which defected en masse after the revolution (here is uniform from 1757):

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca..._uniforms_1757


By the way, have you seen this link (in french)? It looks very helpful:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm%C3%...%A9migr%C3%A9s

[EmperorBatman999]

Is France going to start as a CM or an AM?

The rebels will be CM, the Royalists AM.

[Geronimo2006]

The rebels will be CM, the Royalists AM.

And how will the Republic come into existence?