Revolution Order of War | General Discussions

[Invictus XII]

I was wondering Marshal Beale, why didn't you just set up this thread in the NOW forum and sticky it?

Revolution Order of War is NOW's sucsessor, basically like how MTW2 sucseeded RTW in the series, same thing here. And its not using anything from NOW, just the same team! SO I believe it deserves to be treated independently!
MB

[King Sama]

Revolution Order of War is NOW's sucsessor, basically like how MTW2 sucseeded RTW in the series, same thing here. And its not using anything from NOW, just the same team! SO I believe it deserves to be treated independently!
MB

Ah, that makes sense. I thought it was more in terms of an expansion. Good luck, then, i'm looking forward to it

[Geronimo2006]

This little known song would also suit the revolutionary-theme of the mod (Veillons Au Salut De L' Empire 1791).

[Invictus XII]

No, I've already chosen a song to use in the menu, I'm going for something not historical, but more to set the atmosphere whilst playing!

[Geronimo2006]

Can you add regents when a monarch goes insane? Historically, Maria I of Portugal while Queen until 1816 was not ruler from 1792 for this reason (the real ruler was Prince Joao later Joao VI). More well known is George IV's regency for his father.

[EmperorBatman999]

No, I've already chosen a song to use in the menu, I'm going for something not historical, but more to set the atmosphere whilst playing!

So will this mean I can't use my own music mod?
By the way, I'm back. Send me that PDF file.

I also think that instead of Louis XIV shouldn't be the Revolutionary France's leader but instead someone who was a Revolutionary leader. I know it's not historical, but it'd be ironic having a Bourbon as leader.

[Invictus XII]

I think I will be making the Revolutionary Faction Leader "The National Assembly"

[Geronimo2006]

I think I will be making the Revolutionary Faction Leader "The National Assembly"

Could you have Girondin/Jacobin assembly parties or ministerial-traits for Republican France?

[Invictus XII]

Yes, I was also planing that too.

[Geronimo2006]

Yes, I was also planing that too.

Will the Jacobins be able to rebel and overthrow the Girondins?

[Invictus XII]

No, because that means creating 2 new seperate factions, which would just be too much work! The mod would never get done if we did that! Sorry.

[ambien]

Additional agents for revolutionary France:

Gentlemen:

Claude Desmoulins:

On July 12, 1789 he leapt on a table outside one of the cafés in the garden of the Palais Royal, and announced to the crowd the dismissal of the reformer. Apparently losing his stammer due to the excitement, he addressed the passions of the public, calling them to "...take up arms and adopt cockades by which we may know each other"[2] and adding: "This dismissal is the tocsin of the St. Bartholomew of the patriots!", claiming that a massacre of the partisans of reform was under preparation.
He adopted green as the color for rallying liberty and the masses followed, for he had become their leader.[2] Finally, after drawing two pistols from under his coat, he declared that he would not fall alive into the hands of the police who were watching his movements. He descended, embraced by the crowd.
Following Desmoulins, riots started throughout Paris. The mob, procuring arms by force on July 13, was partly organized as the Parisian militia, which was afterwards to be the National Guard. On July 14, the storming of the Bastille occurred.

The following day, Desmoulins began the most publicised phase of his writing career. In May and June 1789 he had written La France Libre, which his publisher had refused to print. The taking of the Bastille, however, was a sign of changing times, and, on July 18, Desmoulins's work was issued. Considerably in advance of public opinion, it called explicitly for a republic, his sixth issue stating, "... popular and democratic government is the only constitution which suits France, and all those who are worthy of the name of men."[3] "La France Libre" also elaborately examined the rights of king, of nobles, of Roman Catholic clergy and of the people, it became instantly popular, securing Desmoulins a partnership with Honoré Mirabeau. It was immediately followed by a slander campaign from Royalist pamphleteers.



Desmoulins

Jacques-Louis David: master propagandist for the republic; member of the Jacobin Club and ally of robespierre; served in the convention, voted for the death of the king; painted "The Death of Marat"; organized the Festival of the Supreme Being



David (self-portrait, 1794)

Marquis de Condorcet: member of the Academy; philosopher, mathemetician and political scientist; impt constitutional theorist in early phase of revolution; Girondist



Condorcet

Pierre-Simon Laplace: mathemetician and astronomer; worked to develop metric system and standardize weights and measures; consulted on the revolutionary calendar and approved it (even though he knew it was inaccurate--such political acumen enabled him to avoid the guillotine)



Laplace


Antoine Lavoisier: known as the father of modern chemistry and helped develop the metric system; later guillotined for crossing Marat



Lavoisier (by Jacques-Louis David, 1788)

Emmanuel-Joseph Sieyès ("Abbe Sieyes"): an intellectual author of the revolution; wrote "What is the Third Estate?" and helped draft Decl of the Rights of Man



Abbé Sieyès

Spies/Assassins:

Pierre Beaumarchais: yes, the author of "Marriage of Figaro" was a spy (and an arms dealer)



Beaumarchais

Jean-Paul Marat: radical journalist; used his newspaper "L'ami du peuple" to identify and denounce "enemies" of the Republic; his inflammatory rhetoric incited mob violence



"The Death of Marat" by David (1793)

Jacques Hébert: editor of "La Pere Duchesne"; to be denounced by Hébert as a traitor to the revolution often led to the guillotine



Hébert

Etta Palm d'Aelders: spy for revolutionary France

Bishops

Jacques Roux: one of the first priests to accept the civil constitution of teh clergy; known as "The Red Priest;" a leader of the enragees; supported radical economic programs to help the poor



Jacques Roux

Cardinal Étienne Charles de Loménie de Brienne: member of the Academy; swore the oath to the civil constitution



Cardinal Brienne

[ambien]

Possible Agents for royalist France:

(by the way, here is an article on emigre armies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89m...lutionary_Wars )

Gentlemen:

François-René de Chateaubriand: father of French romanticism; countr-revolutionary propagandist; lover of delicious steak (the famous chateaubriand steak was created by his personal chef)



Chateaubriand

Guillaume-Chrétien de Lamoignon de Malesherbes: liberal jurist and philosophe; member of the academy; staunch royalist; defended Louis XVI at his trial before the Convention



Malsherbes

Axel von Fersen (queen's favorite; instrumental in drafting the Brunswick Manifesto)



Count von Fersen

Baron de Batz: served in govt during the revolution, but was a royalist financier in secret



Baron de Batz

Spies/assassins:

Charlotte Corday: assassinated Marat




Louis-Alexandre de Launay, comte d'Antraigues: spy for comte de Provence (the future Louis XVIII)



comte d'Antraigues

Jean Gabriel Maurice Rocques, comte de Montgaillard: spy for conte de Provence; implicated in corruption of General Pichegru

François Dominique de Reynaud de Montlosier: counter-revolutionary spy

Bishops


Jean de Dieu-Raymond de Cucé de Boisgelin, Archbishop of Aix-en-Provence: member of the Academy; drafted "Exposition of Principles" in condemnation of the Civil Constitution of the Clergy



Boisgelin

Cardinal Dominique de La Rochefoucauld President of the First Estate in the Estates-General of 1789; refused to join with Third Estate; fiece opponent of the Civil Constitution



Cardinal Rochefoucauld

[ambien]

Possible technology for revolutionary france

Recall of Talleyrand (Talleyrand installed as foreign minister, significant diplomatic bonus ensues)

In the Estates-General of 1789, he represented the clergy, the First Estate. During the French Revolution, Talleyrand supported the revolutionary cause. He assisted Mirabeau in the secularisation of ecclesiastical properties. He participated in the writing of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and proposed the Civil Constitution of the Clergy that nationalised the Church, and swore in the first four constitutional bishops, even though he had himself resigned as Bishop following his excommunication by Pope Pius VI. Notably, he promoted the public education in full spirit of the Enlightenment. He celebrated the mass during the Fête de la Fédération on 14 July 1790.

In 1792, he was sent twice, though not officially, to Britain to avert war. Besides an initial declaration of neutrality during the first campaigns of 1792, his mission ultimately failed. In September 1792, he left Paris for England just at the beginning of September Massacres, yet declined émigré status. Because of incriminating papers found in the armoire de fer, the National Convention issued a warrant for his arrest in December 1792. His stay in England was not uneventful either; in March 1794, he was forced to leave the country by Pitt's expulsion order. He then arrived in the United States where he stayed until his return to France in 1796. During his stay, he supported himself by working as a bank agent, involved in commodity trading and real-estate speculation. He was the house guest of Senator Aaron Burr of New York. Talleyrand years later refused the same generosity to Burr because Talleyrand had been friends with Alexander Hamilton, whom Burr had killed in a duel.

After 9 Thermidor, he mobilised his friends (most notably the abbé Martial Borye Desrenaudes and Germaine de Staël) to lobby in the National Convention and then the newly established Directoire for his return. His name was then suppressed from the émigré list and he returned to France on 25 September 1796. In 1797, he became Foreign Minister.



Talleyrand

[ambien]

Possible British Agents:

Gentlemen:

Edmond Burke: founder of modern conservatism; condemned excesses of the revolution in "Reflections on the Revolution in France" (1790)



Burke

Edward Gibbon: most famous for "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," he was also an influential intellectual opponent of the revolution



Gibbon

James Watt: inventor and manufacturer of steam engines



Watt

Henry Cavendish: physicist and chemist; first scientist to accurately measure the density of the earth; discovered hydrogen



Cavendish

Spies:

William Wickham: british spymaster

[ambien]

Possible Prussian agents:

Gentlemen:

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe



Goethe

Friedrich Schiller: historian, philosopher, playwright



Schiller

Jeremias Benjamin Richter: chemist, mathemetician



Richter

Martin Heinrich Klaproth: leading German chemist of his time

[ambien]

Possible Austrian agents:

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart



Mozart

Joseph Haydn



Haydn

Alessandro Volta: physicist and chemist; invented the electric cell



Volta

Ignaz von Born: minerologist and metallurgist; leading Austrian scientist of his day

[ambien]

Possible Russian Agents:

Gentlemen:

Princess Yekaterina Romanovna Vorontsova-Dashkova: Director of both the Academy of Sciences and the Russian Academy



Princess Dashkova

Nikolay Karamzin: writer and historian; founder of Russian conservatism



Denis Fonvizin: playwright and courtier



Gavrila Derzhavin: poet and courtier




Andrey Bolotov: agricultural scientist

[EmperorBatman999]

I've looked over that PDF, I think I can do most of it.

But got a better uniform source for light infantry, because the private is only showing his back.
And what is a Marechausee or whatever? The bodyguard cavalry?
Finally, what is the best non-Old Guard guard infantry in the game?

[Invictus XII]

One of the units that is part of the "Maison du Roi" They are like the Imperial Guard I think...