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    Default Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    I want the detailed list of chapters,who see Emperor as human
    and the list of chapters who see him as divine.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    ....now what are you waiting for get to work or be turned into servitors !



    Fitz Salnarville, Duke William's favourite knyghte,
    To noble Edelwarde his life dyd yielde;
    Withe hys tylte launce hee stroke with thilk a myghte,
    The Norman's bowels steemde upon the feeld.
    Old Salnarville beheld hys son lie ded, 235
    Against Erie Edelward his bowe-strynge drewe;
    But Harold at one blowe made tweine his head;
    He dy'd before the poignant arrowe flew.
    So was the hope of all the issue gone,
    And in one battle fell the sire and son
    .

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    There are too many chapters to list, after all there is nominally a 1,000 chapters, most chapters view the Emperor as a really talented, brilliant tactician, strategist, and overall bad ass warrior. Some of the more "religious" chapters such as the Black Templars probably view him as a god like everyone else.

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    Blood Ravens I think into his divinity or they at least somewhat has sympathy to religious believes of Imperial masses.
    About chapters:you'd be surprized but there are very few chapters ,which are really known ,very few
    I think like 20.30 something .
    Anywhere I think Space Wolves are worshipers they call Empah for all-Father .
    Fitz Salnarville, Duke William's favourite knyghte,
    To noble Edelwarde his life dyd yielde;
    Withe hys tylte launce hee stroke with thilk a myghte,
    The Norman's bowels steemde upon the feeld.
    Old Salnarville beheld hys son lie ded, 235
    Against Erie Edelward his bowe-strynge drewe;
    But Harold at one blowe made tweine his head;
    He dy'd before the poignant arrowe flew.
    So was the hope of all the issue gone,
    And in one battle fell the sire and son
    .

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    They shout for the god-emperor.

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    they normally shout for the emperor

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlawstar15a2 View Post
    There are too many chapters to list, after all there is nominally a 1,000 chapters, most chapters view the Emperor as a really talented, brilliant tactician, strategist, and overall bad ass warrior. Some of the more "religious" chapters such as the Black Templars probably view him as a god like everyone else.
    Ya, that is the answer. To add side note, we Chaos view him as false Emperor that enslave your guys.

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    I think most of the imperium of man [bar the mechanicus] Astartes included think of the Emperor as a God following the Heresy

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    No Space Marine chapters worship the Emperor, even the Black Templars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Ya, that is the answer. To add side note, we Chaos view him as false Emperor that enslave your guys.

    So join us, brothers!!
    My brother, though you are misguided for worshipping Khorne we are still united in our hatred for the False Emperor. Come! And help me show these fools the praises of Chaos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Bradford View Post
    No Space Marine chapters worship the Emperor, even the Black Templars.
    Most Space Marines worship the Emperor but as a great warrior NOT a god! Only a minority of chapters see the Emperor as a deified entity.

    Some excerpts to back me up: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chaplain

    "The Ecclesiarchy and its parishioners (its lay followers) worship the Emperor as the most divine god. Although the reverence Space Marines have for the Emperor borders on actual worship, he is supposedly not seen as an actual god by some, but as a brilliant and inspirational man."

    "As in all things, this view of the Emperor's divine status or lack thereof varies from Chapter to Chapter. The Space Marine cults are more ancient than the cult of the Ecclesiarchy, and their specific practices often primitive and barbaric. The chapter's own Primarch is also a major part of the Chapter's specific cult, revered as much as the Emperor."

    "A formal sign of entente between the differing interpretations is that of the rosarius. A rosarius is a holy symbol, taking the form of a necklace, amulet or brooch which often displays the Imperial Eagle or the Terminator cross, or other shapes to suit the particular devotional qualities of the Chapter concerned (for example, the Space Wolves and their wolf iconography). Gifted to Space Marine Chaplains by the Ecclesiarchy, this blessing represents the brotherhood of the Imperial Faith and formally marks the continuance of religious concord between the two groups. In practice, the link between the organisations remains rather tenuous."

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    Please don't source via Lexicanum.

    The Chaplains teach that the presence of a formal chapel is not necessarry to honour the Emperor, that the maelstrom of battle is the only true place of worship for a Space Marine and the slaughter of foes the truest offfering.

    Space Marine Chaplains care nothing for the ravings of the Ecclesiarchy and ignore the dictates of the Imperial Cult in favor of their own ancient traditions. The first Space Marine Chapters were founded centuries before the development of the Imperial Cult and the dominion of the Adeptus Ministorum. Whereas the Adeptus Ministorum has gradually extended its influence over the many thousands of individual cults that once existed throught the galaxy, it has never been able to influence the PSace Marine Cults which remain as stubbornly individualist today as they ever were.


    - Codex: Space Marines 5th Edition page 58 on Chaplains.

    They respect him and give the Emperor praise as a father and master; not as a God.

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    some kids think their father as a god

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Bradford View Post
    Please don't source via Lexicanum.

    The Chaplains teach that the presence of a formal chapel is not necessarry to honour the Emperor, that the maelstrom of battle is the only true place of worship for a Space Marine and the slaughter of foes the truest offfering.

    Space Marine Chaplains care nothing for the ravings of the Ecclesiarchy and ignore the dictates of the Imperial Cult in favor of their own ancient traditions. The first Space Marine Chapters were founded centuries before the development of the Imperial Cult and the dominion of the Adeptus Ministorum. Whereas the Adeptus Ministorum has gradually extended its influence over the many thousands of individual cults that once existed throught the galaxy, it has never been able to influence the PSace Marine Cults which remain as stubbornly individualist today as they ever were.


    - Codex: Space Marines 5th Edition page 58 on Chaplains.

    They respect him and give the Emperor praise as a father and master; not as a God.
    What do you mean don't source via Lexicanum. Because everyone does so.

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    Everyone does and it is very good for finding information, but the Lexicanum also contains a lot of rubbish and fanfiction as well. Typically, Codex or sourcebook references are preferred.

    It's the whole wiki vs. source arguement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Bradford View Post
    Everyone does and it is very good for finding information, but the Lexicanum also contains a lot of rubbish and fanfiction as well. Typically, Codex or sourcebook references are preferred.

    It's the whole wiki vs. source arguement.
    That only works for someone with access to the Codex....

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Bradford View Post
    Everyone does and it is very good for finding information, but the Lexicanum also contains a lot of rubbish and fanfiction as well. Typically, Codex or sourcebook references are preferred.

    It's the whole wiki vs. source arguement.
    Lexicanum is about 90% codex and sourcebook. I know, I do work there...

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    Default Re: Spacemarines see emperor as human or God

    Space Marines of most Chapters view the Emperor as their creator and the most inspirational and capable mortal who has ever lives...they don't view him as a God and that's why they are not on good terms with the Ecclesiarchy or the Adepta Sororitas




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    Quote Originally Posted by CK23 View Post
    Lexicanum is about 90% codex and sourcebook. I know, I do work there...
    Truth. I tried to make grammatical edits on some articles and they said I needed to have a source or they'd reverse the changes! Lol. They're working hard to eliminate fanfiction and the like.

    Anyways, OP, I think it's what Lt.Bradford said. They praise him not as a god, but as a leader. Maybe because they're closer to his level than regular Imperial citizens.
    Last edited by Rogal Dorn; June 28, 2010 at 09:35 AM.

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    Well its lucky i own every Codex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogal Dorn View Post
    Anyways, OP, I think it's what Lt.Bradford said. They praise him not as a god, but as a leader. Maybe because they're closer to his level than regular Imperial citizens.
    Yes,but some of them worship Emperor.
    For example,say later Foundings Chapters-haven't witnessed Emperor as living being ,so they can share
    the views of the rest of Imperium
    Fitz Salnarville, Duke William's favourite knyghte,
    To noble Edelwarde his life dyd yielde;
    Withe hys tylte launce hee stroke with thilk a myghte,
    The Norman's bowels steemde upon the feeld.
    Old Salnarville beheld hys son lie ded, 235
    Against Erie Edelward his bowe-strynge drewe;
    But Harold at one blowe made tweine his head;
    He dy'd before the poignant arrowe flew.
    So was the hope of all the issue gone,
    And in one battle fell the sire and son
    .

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