Crusader Kings 2

**Kanaric** · February 15, 2012, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by molonthegreat

Max levels is always worth it, it just gives -5 to the relationship with your vassals which is practically nothing. I'm playing a game as Bohemia and the succesion by seniority is all screwed up and my grandson who is sixteen will inherit all of Bohemia instead of my brother who should inherit it.

I thought max levels gave -20?

I haven't checked it since beta so if its only -5 that'd is incredibly worth it.

**molonthegreat** · February 15, 2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Kanaric

I thought max levels gave -20?

I haven't checked it since beta so if its only -5 that'd is incredibly worth it.

Well max levies is only -5 and it increases the levy quite substantially, so you should increase that immediately and start building castle villages since they're among the best things you can build since they increase your income dramatically.

**Kanaric** · February 15, 2012, 11:49 AM

Good idea I will start doing this.

**Ferdiad** · February 15, 2012, 12:19 PM

SO in m provinces what should I build, should I specialise or should I build all 3 of the types(Castle/Temple/City)

**Kanaric** · February 15, 2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ferdiad

SO in m provinces what should I build, should I specialise or should I build all 3 of the types(Castle/Temple/City)

Temples and cities have research bonuses but relations penalties. Also penalties if you directly control them.

I generally build baronies after I have the one of each which is required in areas I don't control directly.

I do at times control some cities and temples directly. The penalty for that isn't enough to scare me from it. If the research bonuses stack it may be worth it.

Universities and cathedral schools is what gives that bonus.

**imb39** · February 15, 2012, 03:34 PM

Gah!

I conquer all of England, destroy ALL of the Saxon army, make sure that none of my lands (or Harald's) are occupied and the sod Harold still insists on 'fighting on.' Stupid...

**Ferdiad** · February 15, 2012, 03:36 PM

Maybe hes crazy.

**Alsark** · February 15, 2012, 03:44 PM

From the Paradox forums it sounds like this game is pretty awesome. I love EU3 so I'm looking forward to getting this!

**thespaniard** · February 15, 2012, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by imb39

Gah!

I conquer all of England, destroy ALL of the Saxon army, make sure that none of my lands (or Harald's) are occupied and the sod Harold still insists on 'fighting on.' Stupid...

you mean they dont still think "we are winning this war even tho we have 1 unoccupied castle left and 2000 troops being run down by your 4500"

**ccllnply** · February 15, 2012, 05:14 PM

Ah finally!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**molonthegreat** · February 15, 2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by imb39

Gah!

I conquer all of England, destroy ALL of the Saxon army, make sure that none of my lands (or Harald's) are occupied and the sod Harold still insists on 'fighting on.' Stupid...

I tried playing a multiplayer game on the metaserver and after having spent five years and hundreds of gold on helping the Norwegians conquer England as the King of Scotland the Norwegian King just dies which means that we automatically lose the war.

**Ferdiad** · February 15, 2012, 05:39 PM

TIve been pressing claims for the last 10 or so years with a 10% chance and nothings happened.

**molonthegreat** · February 15, 2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ferdiad

TIve been pressing claims for the last 10 or so years with a 10% chance and nothings happened.

If you're a duke try to invite people who have claims to your court and then attack in their name and they will become your vassal when they're ruling the province.

**Manco** · February 15, 2012, 06:04 PM

How exactly do you press a claim in their name?
(dumb question I know, but I'm a bit overwhelmed. I Feel like the first time I played EU3 again)

**ccllnply** · February 15, 2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Manco

How exactly do you press a claim in their name?
(dumb question I know, but I'm a bit overwhelmed. I Feel like the first time I played EU3 again)

Go to the title screen of the title you want to claim, then click on claimants. You'll get a list of people who have a claim on that title. The ones with the green thumbs up are the ones who will come to your court. Right click on them and go to their diplomacy screen, then click "Invite to Court". Then you can declare war on the current holder of that title to claim it for your claimant.

You could probably get them to your court using marraige as well, but I haven't tried that yet

**molonthegreat** · February 15, 2012, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Manco

How exactly do you press a claim in their name?
(dumb question I know, but I'm a bit overwhelmed. I Feel like the first time I played EU3 again)

You just need them in their court and then when you go to the declare war screen there should be an option among the different Causes bellis with their portrait and an explanation, it's quite easy to find claimants to you just need to look up the title you want and press the claimants button.

**Manco** · February 15, 2012, 06:09 PM

thank you both very much

I'd rep you both, but I can't seem to give you any, molon.

**smitty** · February 15, 2012, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by ccllnply

Go to the title screen of the title you want to claim, then click on claimants. You'll get a list of people who have a claim on that title. The ones with the green thumbs up are the ones who will come to your court. Right click on them and go to their diplomacy screen, then click "Invite to Court". Then you can declare war on the current holder of that title to claim it for your claimant.

You could probably get them to your court using marraige as well, but I haven't tried that yet

Wow that's useful information, here I've been hopelessly clicking around seeing which factions I can and can't declare war on based on who *happened* to be in my court. Go figure I could simply invite someone over for lunch and then press his claim

**Ferdiad** · February 15, 2012, 07:17 PM

Well I sorted it out and after getting Meath im now King of Ireland. Im wondering how do you go on a crusade? Im getting - with my vassals becasue I cant crusade.

**Ciabhán** · February 15, 2012, 09:17 PM

Goddamnit.

Playing as the Uí Néill, currently Duke of Ulster and Connacht with claims on Killdare and Dublin(enough territory to make a Kingdom). Connacht is held by a vassal earl and so is Tyrconnel the rest by my ruler and I managed to sneak primogeniture in just before my last ruler died so I don't have to deal with dividing everything up once every 10-15 years.

I'm in 1113 and for the first time I finally have a ruling character who isn't a monster. He's a charismatic negotiator, temperate, just, and has remarkably decent all around traits(lowest is Stewardship at 6) compared to the usual kitten skinning fat

with 3's in everything it's been. He rules for about 3 months and his fat envious hunchbacked TWIN(worst goddamn matched set I've ever seen) brother who is in order (3,2,0,17,3) assassinates him. Both vassal earl's revolt as soon as he places his gigantic misshapen arse on the throne because he's such a worthless

.

Makes me wish I could assassinate 'myself'. Maybe I'll send this arserag off on Crusade and hope he dies.

Wonderful bloody game...

Addendum: After brutally crushing the revolts and pressing his claims he is now His Royal Majesty King Fat Envious Hunchback 'the Misshapen', Duke of Ulster, Duke of Connacht, Duke of Leinster, Earl of a Bunch of Places, Baron of Just as Many, and Somehow Oddly Baron of Berg