Heiðinn Veðr: Total War 968 A.D.- 1100 A.D. - **LOOK FOR US IN THE HOSTED MOD SECTION!**

[DAVIDE]

This is a list of states existed in the interested area in the timeline of your project:



ITALY:

Republic of Venice: 697–1797
Republic of Genoa:1015 - 1797
Republic of Pisa: 1000 - 1406
Republic of Florence: 1115 - 1532
Republic of Lucca: 1119 - 1799
Republic of Siena: 1125 - 1155
Emirate of Sicily: 827 - 1091
Kingdom of Sicily: 1061 - 1816

In the list you forgot the Patriarchae Aquileiensis 1077-1445, a very very very important state

[Heathen Storm]

Bump. Added the faction coat of arms.
WOW that picture is big!!!! I will reduce the size sometime within the next few days.

[NikeBG]

I wouldn't recommend using the IYI for the Bulgarian Tsardom. While it was kept in use for some time after the conversion, sometimes combined with crosses, and while we're not absolutely sure what it means exactly, it's usually considered to be a Pagan symbol of the old Bulgar God and thus rather unfitting for a Christian country ruled by one of its most pious rulers. It's recommendable to use some other symbol, like a single standing lion (like this one from 1295, although it's considerably later) or eventually this symbol of Tsar Samuil (should be still a nobleman's son during the start date though).

[Harðurāðaz]

Good work!

One little thing:
The Frisian Coat of Arm is not very accurate, They were Christian at this time.
Also the The picture of Odin riding on Sleipnir fits better for Sweden.

[Heathen Storm]

I wouldn't recommend using the IYI for the Bulgarian Tsardom. While it was kept in use for some time after the conversion, sometimes combined with crosses, and while we're not absolutely sure what it means exactly, it's usually considered to be a Pagan symbol of the old Bulgar God and thus rather unfitting for a Christian country ruled by one of its most pious rulers. It's recommendable to use some other symbol, like a single standing lion (like this one from 1295, although it's considerably later) or eventually this symbol of Tsar Samuil (should be still a nobleman's son during the start date though).

Alright, thank you Nike I like the look of the latter one better. Too many lion faction symbols!!

Good work!

One little thing:
The Frisian Coat of Arm is not very accurate, They were Christian at this time.
Also the The picture of Odin riding on Sleipnir fits better for Sweden.

Yeah, it does fit Sweden a little better but I went on the basis of the Ynglinga saga, and used Freyr's Boar instead - since they were said to have been descended from Freyr himself
Yes, Frisia was christian at the time, but very newly christian They were only converted in the 800's (IIRC), so i'm sure there was quite a large pagan population still. On top of that, all the Danes and Norwegians settling there, there was bound to be some pagan contacts through that as well. So that is what i'm basing my reasoning for Frisia to be pagan on So their family members will be a hodge-podge mix between native Frisians, Danes, and Norse! At least, that's what I was thinking...

[Harðurāðaz]

It still dosent fit with the Frisians,
1. Charlemagne forced the Frisians & the Continental Saxons to convert to Christianity, most of Frisians were christian at the start of the mod's timeline.
The only few pagans in Frisia would be Danish settlers and mercenaries.

Charlemagne regarded the repelling of pagan invaders and their absorption and conversion as part of his obligation as defender of the faith and he forced the Saxons and Frisians to convert to Christianity

2. The picture of Odin riding on Sleipnir is from a Swedish runestone.
3. Also Frisia was part of the Frankish Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisian_freedom

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnulf,_Count_of_Holland
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The Frisian Flag fits better. It's from the 11th century

[Heathen Storm]

It still dosent fit with the Frisians,
1. Charlemagne forced the Frisians & the Continental Saxons to convert to Christianity, most of Frisians were christian at the start of the mod's timeline.
The only few pagans in Frisia would be Danish settlers and mercenaries.

2. The picture of Odin riding on Sleipnir is from a Swedish runestone.
3. Also Frisia was part of the Frankish Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisian_freedom

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnulf,_Count_of_Holland
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The Frisian Flag fits better. It's from the 11th century

Hmm... Okay. But..... what if i made them a duel faction? I mean, if they somehow got a Danish/Norse ruler... I think they should have the option of converting But I will definitely change the Swedish and Frisian COA. Thanks for your input mate
Edit:
So I had a cool idea
When the first faction ruler dies, Frisia can have the option to elect a pagan leader, or keep a christian one. Obviously the pagan choice will greatly affect their relations with the Franks and other Christians - but will gain support from Pagans. what say you?!

[Swagger]

good luck with your mod, it looks great

[Heathen Storm]

good luck with your mod, it looks great

Thank you Swagger
Keep watching! I'm really considering releasing a demo of just the british isles and maybe scandinavia - just so people can see what my mod will be like.

[Harðurāðaz]

Hmm... Okay. But..... what if i made them a duel faction? I mean, if they somehow got a Danish/Norse ruler... I think they should have the option of converting But I will definitely change the Swedish and Frisian COA. Thanks for your input mate
Edit:
So I had a cool idea
When the first faction ruler dies, Frisia can have the option to elect a pagan leader, or keep a christian one. Obviously the pagan choice will greatly affect their relations with the Franks and other Christians - but will gain support from Pagans. what say you?!

I like that, They start as Christians and can convert back to paganism if their are enough pagan culture there.(Maybe like allying Norse Factions & Breaking the alliance with the Franks)
(I hope you can read this )

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Frisian Unit Suggestions:
Some units Inspired from WotN's Unit list

Bodyguard:

Counts Guard (Cavalry)
Lance+Sword, Heavy Chain+Helmets(Frankish Style)
Excellent Morale, Good Stamina, Can rally

Infantry:

Frisian Serfs
Spears & round shields, no armor
poor morale

Frisian Spearmen
Spears & round shields, light leather armor
good morale, shieldwall

Citizen Swordsmen
Swords & Round/Kite shields, Gambeson+Conical Helmets
good morale, shieldwall, throws a javelin before charge

Viking Settlers
Axe & Round norse shields, light leather+helmets
good morale, shieldwall, throws a javelin before charge

Frisian Axemen
Twohanded Axe, Light mail
good morale, good stamina

Jutish Thanes
Swords/Axes, Kiteshields, Heavy mail+conical helmets
excellent Morale, shieldwall, diciplined

Missile:

Serf Skirmishers
Javelins & Daggers/Seaxes, no armor
Fast, poor morale

Frisian Archers
Bows & Daggers/Seaxes, light leather
fast, poor morale

Crossbowmen
Crossbows & Swords, Gambeson
good morale

Cavalry:

Horsemen
Light lances, round shields, light leather
good charge

Frisian Knights
Light lances+axes, kite shields, light mail->heavy mail
good charge, good morale

[Heathen Storm]

I like that, They start as Christians and can convert back to paganism if their are enough pagan culture there.(Maybe like allying Norse Factions & Breaking the alliance with the Franks)
(I hope you can read this )

Frisian Unit Suggestions:
Some units Inspired from WotN's Unit list

Bodyguard:

Counts Guard (Cavalry)
Lance+Sword, Heavy Chain+Helmets(Frankish Style)
Excellent Morale, Good Stamina, Can rally

Infantry:

Frisian Serfs
Spears & round shields, no armor
poor morale

Frisian Spearmen
Spears & round shields, light leather armor
good morale, shieldwall

Citizen Swordsmen
Swords & Round/Kite shields, Gambeson+Conical Helmets
good morale, shieldwall, throws a javelin before charge

Viking Settlers
Axe & Round norse shields, light leather+helmets
good morale, shieldwall, throws a javelin before charge

Frisian Axemen
Twohanded Axe, Light mail
good morale, good stamina

Jutish Thanes
Swords/Axes, Kiteshields, Heavy mail+conical helmets
excellent Morale, shieldwall, diciplined

Missile:

Serf Skirmishers
Javelins & Daggers/Seaxes, no armor
Fast, poor morale

Frisian Archers
Bows & Daggers/Seaxes, light leather
fast, poor morale

Crossbowmen
Crossbows & Swords, Gambeson
good morale

Cavalry:

Horsemen
Light lances, round shields, light leather
good charge

Frisian Knights
Light lances+axes, kite shields, light mail->heavy mail
good charge, good morale

Awesome mate, thanks +Rep.
Would it be possible for me to get the authentic names from you?
I mean, i'm sure I could find them if i looked hard enough. I'm kinda screwed on time right now cuz i'm doing midterms for my college
But if you don't have them I will look them up Thanks mate.
Edit: Damn, no rep for you Sorry bro, gotta spread it around some more. GRR!

[Harðurāðaz]

New names:

From WotN
I think its old Frisian.

Bodyguard:

Graafsmund Counts Guard
Lance+Sword, Kiteshields, Heavy Chainmail+Helmets(Frankish Style)
Excellent Morale, Good Stamina, Can rally

Infantry:

Hanzochmon Serfs, peasants
Spears & round shields, no armor
poor morale

Frelet Spiriliod Free Spearmen
Spears & round shields, light leather armor
good morale, shieldwall

Etheling Swerliod Citizen Swordsmen
Swords & Round/Kite shields, Gambeson+Conical Helmets
good morale, shieldwall, throws a javelin before charge

Viking Settlers *Needs better name
Axe & Round norse shields, light leather+helmets
good morale, shieldwall, throws a javelin before charge

Axtliod Axemen
Twohanded Axe, Light mail
good morale, good stamina

Juta Husmon Jutish Thanes
Swords/Axes, Kiteshields, Heavy mail+conical helmets
excellent Morale, shieldwall, diciplined

Missile:

Hanzochmon Werpspiri Serf Skirmishers
Javelins & Daggers/Seaxes, no armor
Fast, poor morale

Frelet Erzemon Free Archers
Bows & Daggers/Seaxes, light leather
fast, poor morale

Kriocebochliod Crossbowmen
Crossbows & Swords, Gambeson
good morale

Cavalry:

Frelet Harsliod Free Horsemen
Light lances, round shields, light leather
good charge

Frisesk Riddere Frisian Knights
Light lances+axes, kite shields, light mail->heavy mail
good charge, good morale

[Heathen Storm]

New names:

From WotN
I think its old Frisian.

Ahh thank you thank you thank you

What if they had a different bodyguard when they converted? I'd say an infantry bodyguard instead of a mounted one. That's a more pagan tradition

[Heathen Storm]

Bump. I have successfully learned how to reskin, and have reskinned the Norse king. It looks AMAZING! I can't wait for you guys to see it Now to learn how to model!

[Harðurāðaz]

Bump. I have successfully learned how to reskin, and have reskinned the Norse king. It looks AMAZING! I can't wait for you guys to see it Now to learn how to model!

GOOD!

[Heathen Storm]

GOOD!

Yes I retextured his armor to be Golden Lamellar, and gave him a blonde head (with a beard I believe?) I love it! Here's a pic of the captain model:

He is based off the King Hakon model of Kingdoms - using a face from the Wrath of The Norsemen team, and armor from Saxon Huscarl!

[Druvatar De Bodemloze]

this is indeed going to be interesting! this is good because it takes a broader view of Europe at this ( the scope of the map) time than many other mods which satellite (or orbit around) the same general theme~ very unique approach to this era!
good luck with this Heathen!

[Heathen Storm]

this is indeed going to be interesting! this is good because it takes a broader view of Europe at this ( the scope of the map) time than many other mods which satellite (or orbit around) the same general theme~ very unique approach to this era!
good luck with this Heathen!

Sweet, thanks Druvatar I'm glad you like it!

[Heathen Storm]

Bump. Changed the number of turns to a total of 800, so it will be 4 turns per year. Fighting season lasted until fall, so that the men could harvest before winter comes. So, winter will restrict movement by 25%. So if your off a-viking, you better find a place to make camp!

[Ri nan Albannaich]

Hey everyone, long time lurker first time poster here etc etc

Love the look of the mod! It's exactly what I've been looking for basically ever since M2 came out, should be amazing when it's finished! I've noticed a couple of things about Scotland so far that I could point out. Firstly the right Gaelic name would be Rìoghachd na h-Alba, not just Rìoghachd a Alba. Also, by 968 the Norse would have controlled Sutherland (the far North of Scotland) for almost a century along with the Western Isles, Orkney and Shetland. Pretty minor things really in the whole scale of things, but I felt I should point them out!