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    Default How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    Will it be more to do about close quarters and "melee". Surely it will be completely different to ETW and NTW?


    Can a historian fill me in?


    Or will they just take them out altogether?

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    Personally I've always hated the bore-fest of navys in all total war games. The waiting an hour for every pirate ship to get done having its way with your little navy and watching it retreat, or win, over and over again, was stupid.

    Hopefully there won't be any naval battles.

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    Apparently, it'll focus more n boarding and cose quarters.

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    this has already been posted.... but anyway

    navel battles will be with the Japanese boats so it will be about getting close and personal, arrow vollys and bording, they are supposedly set to take place (or at least some) near the coast with reefs and rocks in the water that will provide points for ships to hide and ambush other ships. or something like that...
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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    Historically 16th Century Japanese warships were not really what you'd think of a warship being. They were really floating castles. The ship's strength was measured by how many people they could pack onto them. Ship-to-ship fighting was limited to mostly arrow fire and later on cannons in limited supply. Primative fire arms were also introduced as the trade between Japan and Portugal/Dutch increased. Early in the century though it was mainly arrows shot until the floating castles came close enough to actually board. It was then that the actual fighting took place in melee. Thus, the more men you pack onto your ship the better chance you have of winning.

    The floating castles (warships) were not used out in open waters but restricted to coastal areas and river inlets. They were solely powered by oars (with some having crude sails) and were usually several decks in height. Many of the ships were small or light enough to traverse rivers. Rulers would use many ships as entertainment galleys hosting dinner parties and such or to impress a vial. These ships would be floated down rivers and sometimes disassembled and then reassembled from river to lake and lake to river as needed to get from point A to B.

    My wife's uncle builds replicas of these ships today near Hiroshima and I got a chance to tour one just a week or so ago. They are definately cool to look at but not very functional besides being a platform to deliver troops or host a party!

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    For an idea, think Roman style naval warfare. They try to latch their ship to their opponents and turn to their strength, land style melee combat. Sounds like fun to me.

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    ramming, boarding, and firing arrows at the ships i guess?

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    Its not all that hard.

    Get some wood, whack it together and fill it with archers and soldiers...congrats, you now have the Japanese version of a man o war

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    Sea and Land battles will be seamless as I've heard.


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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    I'm sure they will be very cool. You most likely will ram their ships, board them, and probably most the fighting will be archers firing at the other ship.

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    The naval invasion idea sounds cool. They tried that a bit with the mongol invasion add on for shogun but the enemy was always far enough away and your the invaders already on the beach (most on horseback) that it was easy to escape a bridge-like hammering.

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    Would they use fire arrows or greek fire style weapons??

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    Anyone got a picture of these floating castle-boats?

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    well, sounds like boring naval battles. Nevertheless, I never play naval battles in total wars.

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    Shveet

    Looking even better in my mind that two 1st rates pummeling it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    Personally I've always hated the bore-fest of navys in all total war games. The waiting an hour for every pirate ship to get done having its way with your little navy and watching it retreat, or win, over and over again, was stupid.

    Hopefully there won't be any naval battles.
    There will be naval battles

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cook View Post
    There will be naval battles
    ooh yes for sure!
    they work more on epic see and land battles

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    It's going to be pretty wierd then? All you do is press attack. No tactics involved. Just a show.



    But one hell of a show...

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    They said ships were gonna have a rock-paper-scissor system, so maybe each ship will have different soldiers on board, or something.

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    Default Re: How are naval battles going to be portrayed?

    What about westernstyle ships built by the japanese?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanes..._Juan_Bautista
    1614 may still be in the games timeframe as it starts in 1545 according to the hourglass.

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