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    Default Isildor's historical battles - 14 battles

    I'm working at the moment on historical battlemap and it is easier for me when I post all in my personal thread. If somebody wants to move this it's ok for me.

    I will update this post always when I make new battles.

    Installation:

    1) Unzip the folder
    2) Put it into mods/TATW/data/world/maps/battle/custom
    3) Play it under "Historical Battles"

    Note: If there is no battle/custom under maps you have to make this folder.

    Battles:

    The Great war of Rhun and Gondor (1851-1944TA) (1.0)

    Four historical battles:

    - The battle of the plains (1851 TA)
    - The Amnush of the Black Gate (1944 TA)
    - The battle at the Poros (1944 TA)
    - The battle of the camp (1944 TA)

    This character names should be included in the name list of Third Age to play this battles:

    Narmacil (Gondor) for "The battle of the plains"
    Marhari (Rohan) for "The battle of the plains"
    Earnil (Gondor) for "The battle of the Poros" and "The battle of the camp"
    Ondoher (Gondor) for "The Ambush of the Black Gate"
    Artamir (Gondor) for "The Ambush of the Black Gate"

    Why this battles?

    This battles depict one of the great wars in Middle Earth history in the Third Age. Sauron had influenced the Easterlings so that they attacked in 1851 the realm of Gondor. The war between Gondor and Rhun with help of the Haradrim lasted until "The battle of the camp" when Earnil the later king of Gondor defeated the Wainriders.
    The longest time of the Third age Gondor was not in danger by Mordor but by Rhun, Harad and the Cosairs. Therefore this battles should be included in a mod with has the name "Third Age". Hope you like them.

    The battle of the plains (1851 TA):

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    First major battle between Gondor and the Wainriders. The Battle of the Plains was fought in 1856 on the great plains between Mirkwood and Mordor. The Wainriders defeated the combined forces of Gondor and the Northmen. The Wainriders were a group of Men from the lands of Rhun in the East. They were strong and well-armed, and they rode wains - or wagons - and their leaders fought in chariots. Sauron sent emissaries to incite the Wainriders to attack Gondor.

    The attacks of the Wainriders began in 1851. In order to reach Gondor, the Wainriders passed through the lands of the Northmen in Rhovanion, and many Northmen were slain.

    In 1856, King Narmacil II of Gondor led a great army to the plains south of Mirkwood to confront the Wainriders. Narmacil joined forces with Marhari, the leader of the Northmen. But the Wainriders defeated them and Narmacil was killed. Marhari fought in the rearguard as Gondor's army retreated across Dagorlad to Ithilien. Marhari was killed, but his actions allowed many Men of Gondor to escape.

    After the Battle of the Plains, Gondor relinquished its territory east of the Anduin except Ithilien. The Wainriders continued to trouble Gondor for many years. Narmacil's son Calimehtar won a temporary victory against them in 1899, and they were finally defeated by Earnil in 1944.

    Most of the surviving Northmen were enslaved by the Wainriders and their lands were occupied. However some Northmen escaped to Dale or Gondor, and one group led by Marhari's son Marhwini moved to the Vales of the Anduin. This latter group became known as the Eotheod and they were the ancestors of the Rohirrim.



    The Ambush of the Black Gate (1944 TA):

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    The Wainriders were a group of Easterlings from Rhun who were known for using chariots and wains - or wagons - in battle. They were in league with Sauron. The Wainriders first attacked Gondor in 1851 and they continued to trouble Gondor over the course of the next century.

    In 1944, the Wainriders planned an assault on two fronts with their allies the Men of Khand and Harad. The Haradrim prepared to invade Ithilien from the south, while the Wainriders and the Men of Khand were set to attack from the northeast.

    Gondor's forces were divided into the Northern Army and the Southern Army. The Southern Army was led by Earnil and was based at Pelargir. When news of the approaching Haradrim reached Pelargir on July 9, Earnil had already taken up a position about 40 miles north of the Poros in Ithilien. The Crossings of Poros were left intentionally unguarded so the Haradrim would march into their trap.

    The Northern Army was led by King Ondoher. He was accompanied by his son and heir Artamir. His younger son Faramir was supposed to remain behind as Regent but he disguised himself and joined Gondor's allies the Eotheod. Ondoher expected to meet the Wainriders on Dagorlad, but the Northern Army was taken by surprise as they approached the Black Gate by enemy forces lying in wait in the shadow of the Ash Mountains. The Northern Army was routed and Ondoher and both his sons were killed.


    The battle at the Poros (1944 TA):

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    In 1944 Third Age, Wainriders from Rhun made an alliance with the Haradrim, and a dual attack on Ithilien was launched. While the Wainriders assaulted Ithilien from north, the armies of the Haradrim crossed the Poros and invaded South Ithilien.

    The northern assault of the Wainriders was met by the king of Gondor himself, Ondoher, with his two sons Artamir and Faramir. The Easterlings swept through Gondor's defence, cutting down the King and his heirs and routing his army. Their victory complete, and Gondor defenseless before them, the Wainriders paused in North Ithilien to celebrate their conquest.

    Their allies in the south had met with less success. The Southern Army of Gondor was led by Earnil and was based at Pelagir. When news of approaching Haradrim reached Pelargir on July 9, Earnil had already taken up a position north of the Poros in Ithilien. The Crossings of Poros were left intentionally unguarded so the Haradrim would march into their trap.



    The battle of the camp (1944 TA):

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    Battle resulting in the final defeat of the Wainriders. The Battle of the Camp was fought in Ithilien on the night of July 13, 1944, between the Wainriders and the Southern Army of Gondor led by Earnil.
    The Wainriders were a group of Easterlings from Rhun who were known for using chariots and wains - or wagons - in battle. They were in league with Sauron. The Wainriders first attacked Gondor in 1851 and they continued to trouble Gondor over the course of the next century.

    In 1944, the Wainriders planned an assault on two fronts with their allies the Men of Khand and Harad. The Haradrim prepared to invade Ithilien from the south, while the Wainriders and the Men of Khand were set to attack from the northeast.

    Gondor's forces were divided into the Northern Army and the Southern Army. The Southern Army was led by Earnil and was based at Pelargir. When news of the approaching Haradrim reached Pelargir on July 9, Earnil had already taken up a position about 40 miles north of the Poros in Ithilien. The Crossings of Poros were left intentionally unguarded so the Haradrim would march into their trap.

    The Northern Army was led by King Ondoher. He was accompanied by his son and heir Artamir. His younger son Faramir was supposed to remain behind as Regent but he disguised himself and joined Gondor's allies the Eotheod. Ondoher expected to meet the Wainriders on Dagorlad, but the Northern Army was taken by surprise as they approached the Black Gate by enemy forces lying in wait in the shadow of the Ash Mountains. The Northern Army was routed and Ondoher and both his sons were killed.

    The Wainriders believed that they had vanquished Gondor's entire army. They made camp in Ithilien on the night of July 13 and they had a feast to celebrate before continuing on to conquer Gondor.

    But then Earnil and the Southern Army arrived. They had defeated the Haradrim in southern Ithilien and had hurried north gathering the survivors of the Northern Army as they came. They took the Wainriders unawares in their camp and set fire to their wagons. The Wainriders were driven out of Ithilien, and many fled into the Dead Marshes and perished.
    Earnil afterwards became King of Gondor in the absence of a direct heir to the throne. Although Men from the East continued to pose a threat to Gondor in the years that followed, the Wainriders never returned.




    War of the Dwarves and the Orcs (2793-2799TA)

    Two historical battles:

    - Battle of Goblin Town (2796 TA)
    - The battle of Battle of Azanulbizar (2799 TA)

    Battle of Goblin Town (2976 TA)

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    The main gate at the main pass through the Misty Mountains (Here Bilbo escaped Goblin Town):


    The arcane side gate in a cave at the alternative pass (Here Bilbo enters Goblin Town):



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    The War of the dwarves and the orcs began when the elderly exiled dwarven King Thrór, after living many years in poverty, wandered with his friend Nár into Moria and was murdered by Azog, the Goblin-chieftain of Moria, in Third Age 2790. But Nár was let go by Azog to tell his people never to come to Moria, and returned to the Blue Mountains.

    When Nár returned to the king's son Thráin II, he told him of his father's murder. Thráin sat for seven days without eating or sleeping, until he stood and said "This cannot be borne!". Thus began the war.
    From 2790 to 2793 the Longbeards responded to this tragedy by gathering their forces, and calling on all the other Houses of the Dwarves for war, but it took them three years to fully gather their strength.
    In 2793 they attacked, assailing and sacking one by one all the Orc-holds they could find.

    In 2795 a dwarven army led by King Thrain sacked the Orc stronghold under Mount Gundabad and began to march south on the east side of the Misty Mountains. In 2796 this army reached the gate of Goblin Town.

    Goblin-town was a network of caves and tunnels near the High Pass in the northern part of the mountain range. The main entrance to Goblin-town was originally on another pass near the High Pass where the Orcs used to capture travellers. But travellers began using an alternate route over the mountains, so the Orcs made a new entrance in a cave called the Front Porch in the High Pass.
    Goblin-town was dark and the air was stuffy. There was a great cavern lit with a red fire where the Great Goblin sat on a stone slab. Most of the tunnels of Goblin-town had been carved by the Orcs though they incorporated some pre-existing caves and passages. The tunnels branched in many directions and extended deep under the mountains.

    One tunnel ran down to the subterranean lake where Gollum lived, but the Orcs seldom went there unless the Great Goblin sent them to catch fish. There was also a low passageway that sloped up and down until it reached a stone door called the back-door or Goblin-gate on the east side of the Misty Mountains.

    At the main gate of Goblin Town an orc army took a posistion to defend their stronghold.
    The battle was won by the dwarves, who sacked Goblin Town afterwards. In 2799 the war ends with the battle of Azanulbizar.



    The battle of Battle of Azanulbizar (2799 TA)

    My old map Battle of Azanulbizar was not really based on lore it was a more or less fast made map with a to short Kheled-zaram and without the right topography. Therefore is here my new Battle of Azanulbizar.


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    Durin's stone and the Kheled-zaram:


    Zirakzigil (Celebdil):



    The stony part of Dimrill Dale as depicted in the film (near the gate of Khazad-Dum):



    Barazinbar (Caradras) and Bundushathur (Faunuidhol):








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    The Battle of Azanulbizar was the penultimate battle in the War of the Dwarves and Orcs. It was fought beneath the East-gate of Moria in the valley of Azanulbizar, called Nanduhirion in Sindarin or Dimrill Dale in Westron. Therefore the event is also known as the Battle of Nanduhirion and the Battle of Dimrill Dale.
    The War of the Dwarves and Orcs was started when Azog the Orc-chieftain of Moria captured and mutilated Thrór, King of Durin's folk. Azog carved his own name in runes onto Thrór's severed head, and then let his companion Nár escape so that all Dwarves would know that an Orc now ruled Moria. Full of righteous fury, Thrór's son Thráin II gathered a great army of Dwarves, including those not of Durin's folk (Firebeards and Broadbeams from the Blue Mountains and those from the far East of Middle-earth). For six years they systematically destroyed the Orc-holds of the Misty Mountains, until only Moria was left where those Goblins that survived the destruction fled.

    The exact number for the Dwarves was not specified, but it can be estimated at being somewhere between six to ten thousand Longbeards, Firebeards, Broadbeams, Ironfists, Stonefoots, Blacklocks, and Stiffbeards. The Orcs, as stated above, came from Moria, and from as far north as Mount Gundabad. So their numbers can be estimated at fifteen to twenty thousand Orcs.

    The battle started on a dark day of cold winter with no sunlight. The Dwarves had marched into the Dimrill Dale where they found the great East-gate and sent up a great noise. They discovered that on the western slopes above thousands of Orcs had gathered and more were coming out of the East-gate, outnumbering them and holding the higher ground.

    The first Vanguard led by King Thraín, assaulted the slopes but were driven back with casualties, into a wood near the Mirrormere, where Frerin youngest son of Thraín was slain along with Fundin, father of Balin; and many others. Thraín himself was wounded, as well as his eldest son Thorin II Oakenshield. Who's shield was broken during the battle and had to use an oak branch that he hewed off a tree to defend himself.

    Elsewhere, the battle swayed back and forth until Náin from the Iron Hills, arrived with a host of fresh troops. Naín, and his Dwarves hewed through the Orc lines with their mattocks shouting AZOG! AZOG! AZOG! until they got to the steps of the gate, in-which Naín called upon Azog to come out and fight. When Azog emerged from the inner gate with his guards, Naín was very tired and half blind with rage and tried to swing as hard as he could at Azog but the orc darted aside, and he missed, which splintered his mattocks on the ground. The orc kicked him in the leg when he dodged the Dwarf's blow, making him stumble, at which Azog tried to decapitate him but Azog only broke Naín's neck because of the strong mail he was wearing, Naín died instantly. Azog laughed at this, but when he looked out into the valley he found that his entire army was routed. Those that could were fleeing southwards, and all his guards were killed as well. With that he fled back to the gate. But Náin's son, Dáin, leaped up the steps after him with his red axe and just before the gate he hewed off Azog's head, thus ending the war. He was just 32-years old at the time, very young for a Dwarf, and it was remarked an amazing feat. Dáin would later become King under the Mountain as Dáin II Ironfoot.

    The Dwarves were victorious, but with heavy casualties. Half of their forces dead or mortally wounded. But the Orcs casualties were ten thousand. After the battle, King Thráin wanted to enter and reclaim Moria, the ancestral home of Durin's folk. However, since the Dwarves had taken heavy losses and the Dwarves of the other Houses did not see any benefit in it for them unless they got some treasure from Moria. More significantly, Dáin had peered beyond the East-gate after slaying Azog, and saw that Durin's Bane still lingered within and advised Thráin not to enter. They then stripped the dead, so the orcs couldn't plunder them, and felled all the trees in the valley which they made many pyres with, and put there dead on them to burn. For they could not bury them all in fashioned tombs of stone, as was their custom for it would take many years. So those that fell in that battle were known proudly as Burned Dwarves. The Houses then parted ways, returning to their homes to the North, East, and West.

    Thráin, with what was left of Durin's folks' forces, went back to Dunland, and shortly afterwards wandered in Eriador till they settled in the Northern Blue Mountains. There Durin's folk regrew slowly in population and waited till the days they could take back the halls of Erebor, and Khazad-dum.


    Dwarf battle goal: As dwarves in this battle you have to kill Azog and destroy the orc army.

    Balin's Campaign to Moria:

    I've made a battle in the Mines of Moria/Khazad-Dum which depicts the campaign of Balin in Moria.

    Balin's campaign in Moria (2993 TA):

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    Durin's stairs:


    The Great Hall:




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    Khazad-dum was founded in ancient times by Durin, the eldest of the Seven Fathers of the Dwarves. After Durin awoke in Mount Gundabad, he came south to the Dimrill Dale. There he looked into Mirrormere and saw a crown of stars appear above his head. In the caves above the dale, Durin established his realm.

    Durin was long-lived and ruled his people for many years. He died before the end of the First Age, and he was laid to rest in Khazad-dum. But his line continued and the realm of Khazad-dum grew and expanded over the course of the centuries. The halls were filled with light and music. The Dwarves found great riches, including the hard, malleable, silver-colored metal called mithril, which was found nowhere else in Middle-earth. They forged weapons and wrought many things of beauty, and they traded their works of skill with Men for food.

    In the Second Age, Khazad-dum reached the height of its glory. Around the year 40, many Dwarves came to Khazad-dum from the Blue Mountains after the Dwarf cities of Nogrod and Belegost were destroyed during the War of Wrath with Morgoth at the end of the First Age. These Dwarves brought new skills and talents with them, and the wealth and power of Khazad-dum increased.

    The Elves founded the realm of Eregion on the western side of the Misty Mountains in the year 750 of the Second Age. They engaged in trade with the Dwarves of Khazad-dum and traffic flowed in and out of the West-gate. The two races were on friendly terms, and in particular the great craftsmen - Narvi of the Dwarves and Celebrimbor of the Elves - became close friends. Together they wrought the Doors of Durin, which stood open most of the time guarded only by doorwards, for the land was at peace.
    Around 1200 of the Second Age, Sauron came to Eregion in a fair disguise and insinuated himself with the Elven-smiths. From Sauron the Elves learned secret skills and lore and around 1500 they began making the Rings of Power. Seven of these Rings were for the Dwarves, and it is said that the first of these Rings was given King Durin III of Khazad-dum by the Elven-smiths.

    But Sauron forged the One Ring in secret to rule the others and Celebrimbor became aware that they had been deceived. Celebrimbor hid the Three Rings of the Elves - which he had made himself without Sauron's help. Sauron was enraged and he declared war on the Elves. In 1697, Eregion was destroyed and Celebrimbor was slain. Sauron took the Nine Rings of Men and the remaining six Rings of the Dwarves.

    King Durin III sent a host of Dwarves from Khazad-dum to aid the Elves, but they were forced to retreat. The Dwarves shut fast the Doors of Durin and Sauron's forces were unable to breach them. Sauron came to hate the Dwarves of Khazad-dum and his Orcs pursued the Dwarves wherever they found them. Orcs infested other parts of the Misty Mountains as well as the Grey Mountains. Communication between the Dwarves of Khazad-dum and the Dwarves of other places such as the Iron Hills became difficult.

    During the War of the Last Alliance at the end of the Third Age, some Dwarves from Khazad-dum fought with the Men and Elves against the forces of Sauron. In that war, Sauron was defeated and afterwards the One Ring was lost.

    Sauron returned in secret around 1100 of the Third Age, and by 1300 evil things began to multiply again. Orcs attacked Dwarves in the Misty Mountains, though Khazad-dum remained impregnable. The Dwarves of Khazad-dum maintained their wealth, but their numbers began to dwindle. They began to delve more deeply for mithril, which was becoming harder to find.

    While mining for mithril in 1980, the Dwarves discovered a terrible creature in the depths of Khazad-dum. It was a Balrog - a demon of shadow and flame created by Morgoth in the First Age. It had escaped the War of Wrath and had hidden at the roots of the Redhorn. The Balrog may have awoken when Sauron began to stir once more, or it may have been roused by the delving of the Dwarves. King Durin VI was slain by the Balrog, and the next year it killed his son King Nain I. The Dwarves of Khazad-dum fled and scattered far and wide across Middle-earth.

    Khazad-dum came to be known as Moria, the Black Chasm, and few people dared to enter its gates. Around 2480, Sauron sent Orcs, Trolls, and other evil creatures to live there. In 2509 in the Redhorn Gate over the Mountains of Moria, Elrond's wife Celebrian was abducted by Orcs. She was wounded and tormented before her sons Elladan and Elrohir were able to rescue her.

    King Thror of Durin's line came to the Dimrill Gate of Moria with his companion Nar in 2790. He had become tired of wandering homeless and poor and he dreamed of recovering the wealth and majesty of Khazad-dum. He entered the Dimrill Gate alone and was slain by the Orc-leader Azog, who cut off Thror's head and carved his name on the Dwarf's forehead. Azog threw Thror's body into the Dimrill Dale and told Nar to warn his people that they would meet the same fate if they returned to Khazad-dum.
    The Dwarves were enraged, and Thror's son Thrain mustered an army to wage war against the Orcs of the Misty Mountains in 2793. In 2799 they came to the Dimrill Dale and the Battle of Azanulbizar was fought before the gates of Khazad-dum. Azog was slain by Dain Ironfoot and the Dwarves were victorious, though they suffered great loss. But Dain looked through the Dimrill Gate and perceived that Durin's Bane, the Balrog, still dwelled within. He counselled Thrain that the time had not yet come to recolonize Khazad-dum, saying: "The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin's Folk walk again in Moria."

    In 2989, Balin led an expedition to Moria with a number of Dwarves from the Lonely Mountain, including Floi, Frar, Loni, Nali, Oin, and Ori. When they arrived in the Dimrill Dale, Balin and the Dwarves found Orcs guarding the Dimrill Gate. Floi was killed, but the Dwarves slew many Orcs and took up residence in the Twenty-first Hall. Ori began to keep a record of the colony called the Book of Mazarbul.

    Balin set up his seat in the Chamber of Mazarbul and was named Lord of Moria. The Dwarves found mithril in Moria but their colony lasted only five years. On November 10, 2994, Balin went into Dimrill Dale to look into Mirrormere and was shot and killed by an Orc. He was entombed in the Chamber of Mazarbul.
    Many more Orcs came up the Silverlode. The Dwarves barred the Dimrill Gate, but the Orcs broke through and took the Bridge of Khazad-dum and the Second Hall. Frar, Loni, and Nali were killed there. At the West-gate, a pool formed by the dammed Gate-stream prevented the Dwarves from escaping. An aquatic creature with many tentacles called the Watcher in the Water killed Oin. The Dwarves were besieged and all of them perished. Moria was reclaimed by the Orcs.



    War about the treasure of Smaug:

    Battle of the five Armies (2941):

    This battle is totally tested and it works wonderfull.

    New Version: 5

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    Battle of the five Armies 1:

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    The door of the Lonely Mountain (Dwarven doors can't be seen when they are closed) with Thorin and his friends.







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    Dale:






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    Battle involving Dwarves, Elves, and Men against Orcs and Wargs at the Lonely Mountain. The Battle of the Five Armies was fought late in the year of 2941 in the valley between two great spurs on the southern side of the mountain.
    The Men of Lake-town led by Bard and the Elves of Mirkwood led by Thranduil had come to the Lonely Mountain seeking a share of the treasure recovered from Smaug the Dragon by Thorin Oakenshield and his company. Thorin barricaded his company inside the mountain and sent for help from his kinsman Dain of the Iron Hills. When Dain arrived at the Lonely Mountain with 500 Dwarves, a battle was imminent with the Dwarves on one side and the Elves and Men on the other.

    But then Gandalf alerted them to the approach of an army of Orcs and Wargs. The Orcs came from the Misty Mountains led by Bolg. They were angry with Thorin and Company because the Dwarves had earlier escaped the Orcs in a struggle that resulted in the death of the Great Goblin. Bolg also had a grudge against Dwarves because his father Azog had been killed by Dain at the Battle of Azanulbizar.

    The Orcs assembled at Mount Gundabad and then marched eastward. Some of the Orcs were mounted on wolves. The Orc army was accompanied by packs of Wargs, and a cloud of bats flew overhead.

    The Dwarves, Elves, and Men agreed to unite against their common enemy. They arranged their forces on the spurs of the mountain hoping to trap the Orcs in the valley between them. The Elves arrayed themselves on the southern spur, while the Men and Dwarves took up positions on the eastern spur.

    A vanguard of wolf-riders entered the ruined town of Dale in the valley and swiftly overcame the small force of Men positioned there. The Orcs and Wargs then poured into the valley. The Elves attacked first with a volley of arrows, and 1,000 of their spearmen charged into the valley below. The Orcs fell back, but were immediately attacked from the other side by Dwarves and Men.

    The Orcs panicked and began to retreat. Some of the Wargs turned on their allies and began tearing apart dead and wounded Orcs. But then a group of Orcs who had climbed the mountain attacked the defenders on the spurs from above. The Orcs in the valley regrouped and rejoined the battle.

    As the day wore on, the sky became dark with stormclouds. The sky was also darkened by the bats that harried the defenders and attacked the wounded.

    Bolg came onto the battlefield surrounded by a bodyguard of Orcs with scimitars and a pack of Wargs. The Men and Elves were driven back to defend the spurs. Thorin Oakenshield then came out of the mountain and rallied the Dwarves of the Iron Hills to him. Many Elves and Men joined the Dwarves, and they drove forward into the valley. But their numbers were too few and their flanks were unguarded and they were soon surrounded. Thorin himself was mortally wounded.

    At that moment, Bilbo Baggins - who was on Ravenhill with the Elves - noticed the approach of the Great Eagles from the Misty Mountains. The Eagles swooped down and attacked the Orcs on the mountainside, throwing many to their deaths. The Elves, Dwarves, and Men rallied one last time in the valley below. Then Beorn the shapeshifter arrived in the form of a bear, and he slew many Orcs including Bolg.

    The Orcs and Wargs were defeated. Those that fled were driven into the River Running and the marshes around the Forest River, or were pursued to the borders of Mirkwood where the Elves dealt with them. It is said that three quarters of the Orcs of the northern Misty Mountains died that day.

    Many Elves, Men, and Dwarves were also killed in the Battle of the Five Armies. Thorin Oakenshield died of his wounds, and his nephews Fili and Kili had died defending him.

    After the battle, a Dwarf realm was reestablished in the Lonely Mountain and Dain became King under the Mountain. Dale was also rebuilt under the leadership of Bard, the new King of Dale. Both realms prospered and had peace for many years until the Battle of Dale during the War of the Ring.

    Names & Etymology:
    Called the Battle of the Five Armies because the five main forces were the Dwarves, Elves, and Men on one side and the Orcs and Wargs on the other. It was also referred to as the First Battle of Dale, since much of the fighting took place in the ruined town of Dale in the valley between the spurs of the Lonely Mountain. The battle commonly called the Battle of Dale was fought during the War of the Ring.


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    Lore research was a big part of this map. I tried to make the armies, the river and especially the spurs as lore accurate as possible. I used this two maps:





    Why are there no towers or other buildings of Erebor?

    Tolkien wrote nothing about such buildings in the Hobbit. They were build later by the dwarves after the battle when they lived again there. When the 14 compainiens searched for an other entry than the main one they couldn't find any clue about the other one first, and they said nothing about building. There were just the steps Bilbo found but Smaug destroyed afterwards this side of the mountains so it would be even wrong to inlude this. Nevertheless I modelled the side where the secret entry was a little bit.

    Why are there no trees?

    Smaug burned them all. Tolkien wrote that the area of the mountain was quiet drear. The earth was burned.

    Why is the entry just a flat rock face?

    My inspiration was the flat wall of Moria in the film. Therefore I thought that the rock around the entrance of the Lonely Mountain might have looked the same way. The entrance can't be seen on this map. There are two reasons for this. The first is, that the 13 dwarves build an wall in the entrance so it could not be entered. The second one is that I saw no way to make such an hole in the wall

    Hope this show you my thoughts when I made this map.



    War of the Ring (3018-3019 TA):

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    Battle between the Host of the West and the forces of Sauron during the War of the Ring. The Battle of the Morannon took place on March 25, 3019, in front of the Black Gate of Mordor. The purpose of the battle was to give Frodo Baggins time to fulfill the quest to destroy the One Ring, and in that it was successful.
    On March 16, there was a meeting of the Captains of the West attended by Aragorn, Gandalf, King Eomer of Rohan, Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth, and Elladan and Elrohir, the sons of Elrond. Following Gandalf's counsel, they decided to lead their forces to the Black Gate in order to draw Sauron's attention to themselves as Frodo approached Mount Doom. It was thought that Sauron would suspect that one of them was wielding the One Ring and that he would concentrate all his power at the Black Gate. The Host of the West had no hope of victory in battle over Sauron's superior strength, but they felt it was their duty.

    The Host of the West was comprised of 7,000 Men, mainly on foot. Of these, Aragorn gathered 2,000 Men from Southern Gondor; Prince Imrahil gathered 3,500; Eomer gathered 1,000 Rohirrim - half on foot and half mounted; and the remaining 500 were horsemen including the Knights of Dol Amroth and the Dunedain of the North. With this final company rode Elladan and Elrohir, Legolas, Gimli, Gandalf, and Peregrin Took. Aragorn was the Captain of the Host of the West.

    On March 18, the Host of the West left Minas Tirith and began the march through Ithilien. A guard comprised mainly of archers was left at the Cross-roads to defend against the possibility of attack from Minas Morgul. Scouts discovered a force of Orcs and Easterlings lying in ambush on March 21, but the Host easily overcame them. As they approached the Desolation of the Morannon, some of the young men of Rohan and farmers of Lossarnach were too afraid to continue. Aragorn took pity on them and sent them to defend the crossing at Cair Andros.

    The remaining 6,000 troops came before the Black Gate on March 25. Aragorn organized the army on two great hills of piled dirt and stone in front of which lay a mire of mud and pools of water. He then approached the Black Gate with Gandalf and representatives of the free peoples of Middle-earth: Eomer and Imrahil for the Men; Legolas, Elladan, and Elrohir for the Elves; Gimli for the Dwarves; and Pippin Took for the Hobbits.

    They were met by the Mouth of Sauron, who showed them Frodo's mithril shirt and Elven cloak and Sam's sword. He claimed that the one who had borne these tokens would endure years of torment in Barad-dur unless the Host of the West surrendered. The Mouth of Sauron then presented Sauron's terms: That all lands east of the Anduin would be Sauron's realm and that Gondor and Rohan would be subject to the rule of Mordor. Despite his anguish, Gandalf utterly rejected Sauron's terms and the battle began.

    A great army of over 60,000 emerged from the Black Gate. Orcs came down from the hills on either side of the gate and an army of Easterlings marched from the shadow of the Ash Mountains. There was also a company of Hill-trolls from Gorgoroth, and the Nazgul flew overhead mounted on Fell Beasts. The Host of the West was surrounded.

    Aragorn and Gandalf stood on one hill under the banner of the King of Gondor while on the other hill flew the banners of Rohan and Dol Amroth. In the front rank stood the Dunedain, Prince Imrahil and his knights, Elladan and Elrohir, and members of the Tower Guard including Beregond and Pippin.

    The first assault of the Enemy forces was hindered by the mire that lay like a moat in front of the hills. The Orcs shot a volley of arrows at the Host of the West, but the Hill-Trolls were able to wade through the mud and attack the front rank. Beregond was struck by a great Troll-chief and Pippin saved his life by stabbing the creature with his sword, which he later called Troll's Bane. The Hobbit was crushed under the weight of the Troll's carcass and was found alive after the battle by Gimli.

    The battle was going ill for the Host of the West when the Great Eagles arrived led by Gwaihir the Windlord. But as the Eagles bore down on the Winged Nazgul, there was a sudden terrible cry from Barad-dur and the Nazgul turned and sped toward Mount Doom. The forces of Sauron wavered and the Host of the West began to advance against them, but Gandalf told them to stand firm and wait.

    At that moment, Frodo stood at the edge of the Cracks of Doom. Unable to resist the will of the Ring any longer, Frodo claimed the Ring for himself, but then Gollum - whose life Frodo had spared - bit the Ring from Frodo's hand. In his exuberance at regaining his Precious, Gollum fell into the Cracks of Doom and the Ring was destroyed.

    The realm of Mordor fell into ruin: the Towers of the Teeth collapsed, the Black Gate was hurled down, Barad-dur was destroyed, and Sauron himself was vanquished.

    After the fall of Sauron's realm, most of his forces scattered and went into hiding or killed themselves in despair. Some of the Easterlings and Southrons made a final desperate stand, but many others fled or begged for mercy. Aragorn later pardoned and freed the Easterlings who had surrendered and made peace with the Southrons.


    War of the Last Alliance (3434-3441 SA):

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    The Last Alliance of Elves and Men was formed in 3430 by Gil-galad, the High King of the Noldor, and Elendil, the High King of Gondor and Arnor. They united to oppose Sauron, who had attacked and captured Minas Ithil - a stronghold of Gondor on the borders of Mordor - the year before in 3429. Sauron was angry that the survivors of Numenor had founded the Kingdom of Gondor near his realm, and he sought to destroy them.

    Elendil's son Isildur escaped from Minas Ithil and fled to Arnor in the north where his father lived. Elendil's other son Anarion remained to defend Gondor. Anarion managed to hold Osgiliathand drive Sauron's forces back to Mordor for the time being, but he did not have sufficient strength to defeat Sauron.
    Elendil took counsel with his friend and ally Gil-galad, and they realized that their races needed to unite against Sauron or all of Middle-earth would be in danger. Gil-galad set out with an army of Elves from Lindon, along with Cirdan from the Grey Havens. Elendil gathered an army of Men of Arnor and awaited Gil-galad in the Tower of Amon Sul on Weathertop. Together they traveled to Rivendell, the home of Elrond, who was to act as Gil-galad's herald and commander on the battlefield.

    In 3431, a great host of Elves and Men was assembled at Rivendell, the likes of which was never seen again in Middle-earth. The army of the Last Alliance set out for Mordor, crossing the Misty Mountains in 3434 and marching down the Anduin. They were joined by Elves of Lothlorien led by Amdir and Elves of Greenwood the Great led by Oropher and his son Thranduil. Some Dwarves of Durin's line from Khazad-dum as well as a small number of Dwarves from other houses also joined them.

    South of Greenwood the Great, the army of the Last Alliance found that the gardens that the Entwives had tended there had been destroyed. Sauron had burned the gardens in a scorched earth policy in order to prevent the Last Alliance from replenishing their supplies with the Entwives' crops. The army continued south through the desolate Brown Lands to Mordor.

    In 3434, the armies of the Last Alliance and Sauron met in battle outside the Black Gate of Mordor on the great plain that became known as Dagorlad, the Battle Plain. The army of the Last Alliance consisted of the forces that had marched from the north and the Men of Gondor who had been defending their borders.

    However, the Men who lived in the White Mountains did not heed the call to battle despite an oath they had sworn to Isildur to oppose Sauron. These Men of the Mountains were cursed as Oathbreakers by Isildur and were condemned to haunt the Paths of the Dead.

    Sauron's forces consisted mainly of Orcs and Men. Many of the Men who fought for Sauron came from the lands of Rhun in the East and Harad in the South. There were also some Men of Numenor who had been corrupted by Sauron and were called Black Numenoreans. Two of these Black Numenoreans named Herumor and Fuinur had become lords among the Haradrim and led their people into battle against Elendil and Gil-galad.

    A small number of Dwarves fought on Sauron's side, though none from Durin's line. Sauron also had at his command Trolls and other creatures as well as his deadliest servants, the Nazgul.

    When the battle began, Oropher of Greenwood the Great did not wait for Gil-galad's signal and charged heedlessly forward to his death. The Elves of Lorien led by Amdir also fared poorly. They were cut off from their allies and were driven into the the marshland to the south, where Amdir and more than half his troops were killed. This marshland became known as the Dead Marshes because of the corpses of Elves, Men, and Orcs that lay there after the War of the Last Alliance.


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    The Siege of Barad-dur lasted for seven years, from 3434 to 3441. The army of the Last Alliance entered Mordor and surrounded the DarkTower, but they could not break its defenses. Isildur sent his sons Aratan and Ciryon to Minas Ithil to guard against any attempt by Sauron to escape by way of Cirith Ungol. Isildur's eldest son Elendur remained at his side throughout the war.

    Sauron sent out many sorties from the tower and he also attacked the siege army from above with fire and with arrows and other projectiles. Many Elves and Men were killed. Anarion died in 3440, his helmet crushed by a stone thrown from Barad-dur.

    Finally in 3441, Sauron came down from his tower in an attempt to break the siege. He made his way to MountDoom, where he was confronted by Gil-galad and Elendil. The three fought on the slopes of MountDoom until all of them fell. Gil-galad was burned to death by the heat of Sauron's hand, and as Elendil died his sword Narsil broke beneath him.

    Sauron's physical body was also cast down. Isildur cut the One Ring from Sauron's hand with the hilt-shard of Narsil. Elrond and Cirdan advised him to destroy it immediately in the fires of MountDoom, but Isildur refused and kept the Ring for himself. Because the Ring which contained much of his power remained, Sauron's spirit survived.

    Although the war ended in victory for the Last Alliance, the defeat of Sauron was not complete. He fled to the East where he rebuilt his strength over the centuries. The Nazgul also went into hiding, awaiting their master's return to power. Many of the Men who had been allied with Sauron returned to their homelands and remained enemies of Gondor and Arnor. Barad-dur was destroyed but its foundations, which had been strengthened with the power of the One Ring, stood intact.

    The Elves and Men of the Last Alliance suffered great losses in the war. More than half of the forces from Lothlorien and two-thirds of the forces from Greenwood had perished. A remnant of the Elves of Lindon returned with Cirdan to dwell at the Grey Havens.

    Isildur was killed just two years after the war by a band of Orcs in the Gladden Fields, and the One Ring was lost in the waters. The population of Arnor had been greatly diminished, and the North-kingdom declined and eventually ended after a war with the Lord of the Nazgul. Gondor's losses were less grievous, but it was not long before they too were under attack by Sauron's minions.

    By the end of the Third Age, Sauron had regained much of his power and returned to Mordor. It was not until the One Ring was finally destroyed on March 25, 3019, that Sauron was utterly defeated.


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    The Battle of the Field of Celebrant was fought on April 15, 2510, against the Balchoth - a group of Men from Rhun who were under the influence of Sauron.
    The Balchoth made frequent raids on settlements on the east side of the Anduin until most of the inhabitants fled. Then Cirion, the Steward of Gondor, learned from his spies that the Balchoth were amassing a great army to invade the province of Calenardhon on the west side of the river. The defenses there were too weak to withstand an attack.

    Cirion prepared to lead an army to Calenardhon, and he sent six errand-riders north to ask for help from the Eotheod, who were old allies of Gondor. The errand-riders had to pass through hostile territory patrolled by the Balchoth. Five of them were lost, and the sixth - a man named Borondir - was pursued by the Balchoth during his 15-day journey. He finally made it to the land of the Eotheod at the source of the Anduin on March 25, 2510, and delivered his message.

    Eorl the Young was the leader of the Eotheod. He realized that if Gondor fell, his people would soon be in danger as well. Eorl amassed an eohere - or army - of 7,000 armed Riders and several hundred mounted archers. On April 6, the Eotheod began their southward journey of over 500 miles.

    The Balchoth had built boats and rafts on the east side of the Anduin. They crossed the river en masse into Calenardhon and overcame the defenses on the west bank. The Balchoth were poorly equipped but had superior numbers. Cirion arrived with an army of reinforcements, but the Balchoth cut them off and drove them north over the Limlight into the Field of Celebrant. Then a great host of Orcs came down from the Misty Mountains and attacked Cirion's forces from the west, driving them toward the Anduin.

    All seemed lost for Gondor, but then the Eotheod arrived. They had crossed the Anduin at the Undeeps into Calenardhon and then came over the Limlight to attack the Balchoth from the rear. Borondir charged ahead through the enemy forces to reach Cirion's side, and he died defending his lord.

    The combined forces of Gondor and the Eotheod were victorious. Eorl drove the Balchoth back across the Limlight and he and his Riders hunted them down and slew them until Calenardhon was free of invaders. After the battle Cirion gave Calenardhon to Eorl and his people, and it became the land of Rohan. Eorl swore an oath to remain Gondor's ally and come to their aid in time of need.

    The Oath of Eorl remained in effect for generations and was fulfilled most notably at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields during the War of the Ring. After that war, Aragorn, King Elessar, renewed the Gift of Cirion and King Eomer of Rohan renewed the Oath of Eorl.


    Kin-strife (1432-1448 TA):


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    The battle of the Crossings of Erui was a battle during the Civil war in Gondor. The Civil war or Kin-strife began in 1432 and lasted until 1448. On one side were the loyal supporters of King Eldacar, and on the other side were the rebels led by Castamir. The rebels opposed King Eldacar because he was not of pure Numenorean descent.

    Eldacar's father was Valacar of Gondor and his mother was Vidumavi, the daughter of King Vidugavia of Rhovanion. Valacar had been sent to Rhovanion by his father Romendacil II as an ambassador to strengthen relations between their peoples. Eldacar was born in Rhovanion and spent his early childhood there.

    The people of Rhovanion were Northmen, while the people of Gondor were Dunedain descended from the survivors of Numenor. Some of the Dunedain of Gondor disapproved of their future King being of mixed blood because they believed the Northmen to be inferior. In addition, the Northmen had shorter lifespans which they feared Eldacar's descendants would inherit. They also resented the favor shown to the Northmen who were in the service of Gondor.

    During the last years of King Valacar's reign, dissension began to grow, especially in the southern provinces of Gondor. When Eldacar became King in 1432, open war broke out. Eldacar and his supporters fought hard but eventually they were besieged in Osgiliath. As the siege dragged on, supplies ran out and the people of Osgiliath were starving.

    In 1437, the rebels overwhelmed Osgiliath and set fire to the city. The Dome of Osgiliath was destroyed and the palantir was lost in the Anduin. Eldacar and some of his people fled to Rhovanion, but Eldacar's son Ornendil was captured and was slain on the orders of the rebel leader Castamir, and many others were slaughtered as well.

    Castamir usurped the throne of Gondor. He was the grandson of the younger brother of King Romendacil II. He had a large following among the rebels, particularly those from the coasts because he was a Captain of Ships. He moved his capital to Pelargir and had little interest in the land. He was cruel and merciless to those who opposed him, and because of this more people from the regions around Osgiliath began to turn against him.

    Eldacar gathered his strength in Rhovanion. In 1447, after ten years of exile, he returned to Gondor with a great army including a number of Northmen. Men from Anorien, Calenardhon, and Ithilien joined him. In the Battle of the Crossings of Erui, Eldacar slew Castamir and reclaimed the kingship of Gondor. Many Men of Gondor were killed. Afterwards, some of the Northmen remained in Gondor and intermarried with the Dunedain.

    Castamir's sons and a number of other rebels escaped to Pelargir. The rebels were besieged until 1448, when they escaped and sailed to the Havens of Umbar on the coast of Harad. They and their descendants became known as the Corsairs and they threatened Gondor's coasts and ships for centuries to come.


    War of Angmar (1356-1975 TA):


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    The Battle of Fornost was fought in 1975 on the plain west of Fornost between the North Downs and Lake Evendim. The battle resulted in the Witch-king's defeat, but it also marked the end of the North-kingdom of Arnor.
    The Witch-king was the Lord of the Nazgul, and he had been troubling the Dunedain of the North since he established the realm of Angmar in 1300. In the winter of 1974, a great force from Angmar captured Fornost, which was the capital of what remained of the North-kingdom. The Witch-king himself took command of the city.

    Most of the Dunedain fled west across the River Lune to Lindon, but some led by King Arvedui held out for a time in the North Downs. They were soon forced to retreat northward to the Icebay of Forochel. A ship was sent from the Grey Havens to rescue them, but it was lost at Sea in March of 1975 and Arvedui and all aboard perished.

    A fleet finally arrived from Gondor in repsonse to a request for aid that Arvedui had sent before the invasion. There were so many ships that they filled all the harborage in the Gulf of Lune. The fleet brought a great army led by Earnur, the son of King Earnil II of Gondor, as well as cavalry that included horsemen from Rhovanion. They joined forces with the remaining Dunedain of the North and the Elves of Lindon led by Cirdan to form the Host of the West. Some archers from the Shire accompanied them.

    The Host of the West crossed the Lune and headed for the Hills of Evendim. The Witch-king was over-confident, and rather than waiting for the Host to try to retake Fornost, he sent his army out to meet them. The Host of the West came down out of the hills onto the plain and engaged the forces of Angmar in battle.

    The forces of Angmar started to retreat toward Fornost. Then their flank was attacked by the cavalry of the Host of the West, who had circled around the Hills of Evendim to come down from the north. The forces of Angmar were routed. The Witch-king tried to retreat to his stronghold of Carn Dum with the remnants of his troops, but he was pursued by cavalry led by Earnur. Earnur was joined by Glorfindel and an army of Elves from Rivendell, and together they finished off the Witch-king's forces.

    The Witch-king turned on Earnur, who tried to stand his ground but was unable to control his terrified horse. Then Glorfindel approached, and the Witch-king fled into the night. Earnur wanted to pursue him, but Glorfindel said, "Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of man will he fall."

    The Orcs and Men in the service of Angmar had all been slain or driven away, and the Witch-king returned to Mordor. Over 1,000 years later, Glorfindel's prediction came to pass when the Witch-king was vanquished at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields by a woman and a Hobbit.

    Despite the victory over Angmar, the Dunedain of the North were greatly diminished and weakened, and the North-kingdom of Arnor could no longer be sustained. Fornost remained abandoned, and the Dunedain became a wandering people called Rangers by the people of Eriador. It was not until the end of the Third Age that the North-kingdom was reestablished by Aragorn, King Elessar.



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    Nicely made!
    Some more shots of the armies themselves would be nice, though.

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    Godd work isildor! I will look forward for your new battles.

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    i don't really like the battle of the five armies. erebor doesn't exist, there is just a mountain with a hastily made lake and some armies. plus, your "lore research" is actually a google research, this images is the first thing that turns up when you search for "the battle of five armies". you could remake it, a more elaborate mountain must be your first concern, and it definitely needs a rock texture, all of it

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    Some more shots of the armies themselves would be nice, though.
    No problem:

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    The door of the Lonely Mountain (Dwarven doors can't be seen when they are closed) with Thorin and his friends.






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    It has a rock texture actually but you can't see it one more flat bottom. Furthermore I read all texts I could find. There are no trees and a quiet drear look because Smaug burned almost all trees.

    erebor doesn't exist
    Erebor is under the Mountain. Erebor are the halls inside the mountain. The other buildings e.g. Balin talked about in Rivendell will be build later. After Smaugs dead there were no buildings or other things outside the mountain. This was the reason the 13 dwarves and Bilbo had to search so long for an other entry than the main one. If there would have been towers or othere things Tolkien would have wrote something about it.

    Erebor just exist inside the battle of the five armies.

    Edit: Under Lore you can find a little FAQ about this
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    Nice pics

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    what i mean is this doesn't look like the lonely mountain, it's just a random rock. the lonely mountain is supposed to be huge and all black (from smaug) and grey. and there are burned tree decorations you know

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    Nice Job

    +Rep of course
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    Please leave your name if you give me rep, so I can rep you back thanks



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    burned tree decorations you know
    I put some burned trees in this map, but they look always the same and therefore it looks strange when there are too many of them.

    what i mean is this doesn't look like the lonely mountain, it's just a random rock. the lonely mountain is supposed to be huge and all black
    Well, certainly it can be improved and I will do this certainly, this is just the first version, but I didn't want to use KK Mordor earth for the mountain. I think this would have been too dark. I will try to improve it. But I think the form is good, isn't it?

    Well I thried to let it look like Tolkien described it (I even added the southern spur with the Ravenhill, although you can't visit it because it is outside the battle map), but maby you have a different imagination of the lonely mountain.

    So you think that it should be darker with more burned tree? Ok, I can try to change this. Other proposals?

    BTW

    hastily made
    Not nice

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    look, you seem a little bit displeased with my criticism. it goes without saying that i comment only on the things i didn't like and ignore what i liked. my purpose is to improve your battle. the only thing i said is that this batle seems more hastily made than your other maps, and there is no need to be offended, for god's sake. some constructive criticism is always needed

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    Nah, I want crisism.

    hastily just was a little bit hard

    Here is a darkes Lonely Mountain:

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    I'll update the first post now. This is version 2

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    Nice work Isildor

    I have also been working on the Battle of the Five Armies lately, and I've done some research as to which units I was going to use.

    For starters, the Dale army was about 500 men, and most of them were Dale Swordsmen, but I also added 1 unit of Dale Swordmasters for diversity. There's no mention of Dale spearmen, but I think its safe to assume that at least Bard brought his Bow, so I added 1 unit of Bardian Archers aswell. That makes the total Army of Dale to be 300 Dale Swordsmen, 150 Swordmasters and 150 Archers.

    The Silvan Army was the largest one, with at least 1500 elves. Most were lightly armored. For the general\king, I chose 1 unit of Sindar Archers. Then 4 units of Silvan spearmen, and 4 units of Sentinels as well as 1 unit of Silvan Heavy Spearmen, and 1 unit of Forest Wardens.

    The dwarves are pretty standard, and we learn that there are 500 dwarves from the Iron Hills, with mail, mattocks, sword and shield. In my opinion, the best is to use 2 units of the Iron Guard, 1 unit of dwarven warriors, and to depict Thorin, I chose 1 unit of Dwarven nobles.

    The Goblin and wolf armies are a little bit worse to make, but a lot of Goblin Infantry, Heavy Goblin Infantry, some Halberdiers and archers, and of course a lot of warg riders. I think also the wolves from Mordor can be used if wanted.

    I hope this can be a little bit helpful
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    where are the eagles?!!!!

    j/k
    +rep for the great work!

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    Very nice

    but was not BoFA fought at evening...and it was quite dark due to bats

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    Nice work Isildor

    I have also been working on the Battle of the Five Armies lately, and I've done some research as to which units I was going to use.

    For starters, the Dale army was about 500 men, and most of them were Dale Swordsmen, but I also added 1 unit of Dale Swordmasters for diversity. There's no mention of Dale spearmen, but I think its safe to assume that at least Bard brought his Bow, so I added 1 unit of Bardian Archers aswell. That makes the total Army of Dale to be 300 Dale Swordsmen, 150 Swordmasters and 150 Archers.

    The Silvan Army was the largest one, with at least 1500 elves. Most were lightly armored. For the general\king, I chose 1 unit of Sindar Archers. Then 4 units of Silvan spearmen, and 4 units of Sentinels as well as 1 unit of Silvan Heavy Spearmen, and 1 unit of Forest Wardens.

    The dwarves are pretty standard, and we learn that there are 500 dwarves from the Iron Hills, with mail, mattocks, sword and shield. In my opinion, the best is to use 2 units of the Iron Guard, 1 unit of dwarven warriors, and to depict Thorin, I chose 1 unit of Dwarven nobles.

    The Goblin and wolf armies are a little bit worse to make, but a lot of Goblin Infantry, Heavy Goblin Infantry, some Halberdiers and archers, and of course a lot of warg riders. I think also the wolves from Mordor can be used if wanted.

    I hope this can be a little bit helpful
    Yeah, I have to change the armies. To say the truth I had mainly concentraded on the battle map and not on the armies. The formation is lore acurate but not the strenght.

    My problem is that due to lore the orcs had 10 000 soldiers and the elves 1000, the dwarves 500 and the lake men 200-500 men. This means at best 1:5. When we give the orcs 2000 the dwarves whould get only 100 soldiers, the elves 200. Very little army.

    But I will rework the armies.


    but was not BoFA fought at evening...and it was quite dark due to bats
    I don't think that the bats show that it was at evening. But I will make it cloudy, because orcs don't like the sun so it is likely that it was a dark day.

    where are the eagles?!!!!
    Indeed is one of the five armies missing so my battle is only the battle of the four armies
    Last edited by Isildor; May 28, 2010 at 03:56 PM.

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    Default Re: Isildor's historical battles - New: Battle of the five Armies 2

    well the 2nd version is definitely much better. i am going to try tomorrow

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    Default Re: Isildor's historical battles - New: Battle of the five Armies 3

    Battle of the five armies 3 released:

    - New armies with more lore based units
    - The armies have now the the lore numbers (1000 elves, 500 dwarves and 500 lake men against ~7000 orcs)
    - It is now more difficult to win with the good guys
    - Some minor terain changes

    I think that this is the final version, but if there are still proposals I may make a forth version

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    Default Re: Isildor's historical battles - New: Battle of the five Armies 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Isildor View Post
    Battle of the five armies 3 released:

    - New armies with more lore based units
    - The armies have now the the lore numbers (1000 elves, 500 dwarves and 500 lake men against ~7000 orcs)
    - It is now more difficult to win with the good guys
    - Some minor terain changes

    I think that this is the final version, but if there are still proposals I may make a forth version
    What about the ruins of Dale?
    Oh, and should the moutain not be bigger? IMO, it just looks like a big hill now(No offence ofc!)

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