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    I see roman generals with offices for example Quaestor. My question is... What are the ancillaries that work as offices for the Carthaginians?

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    Here you are....

    Central office, could reduced ambition of characters
    Sufet_01
    Sufet_02
    Leader_of_Assembly
    Speaker_of_Senate
    Chief_of_Committee_of_Thirty
    Tribunal_Magistrates_01
    Tribunal_Magistrates_02
    Tribunal_Magistrates_03
    Tribunal_Magistrates_04
    governor_01
    governor_02
    governor_03
    governor_04

    Vessal Leader's office, not have effect on their ambitions
    Carthage_Archon_of_Syracuse
    Carthage_Archon_of_Cyrene
    Carthage_Archon_of_Massalia
    Carthage_Archon_of_Emporion
    Carthage_King_of_Turdetania
    Carthage_King_of_Lusitania
    Carthage_King_of_Bastetania
    Carthage_King_of_Contestania
    Carthage_King_of_Celtiberia
    Carthage_King_of_Insubria
    Carthage_King_of_Liguria
    Carthage_King_of_Boii
    Carthage_King_of_Masaesyli
    Carthage_King_of_Massylii
    Carthage_King_of_Mauretania
    Carthage_King_of_Garamantes


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    Default Re: Ancillaries And Offices

    Im currently in 230~ something bc. Yet NONE of my characters have any of those traits :s. Believe me ive checked them all.

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    What campaign you play? Senate or normal XC?

    There is a huge flawed which I just spotted in Senate version as it need to own Carthago as condition of all central offices. This condition is right in XC version.

    On Vassal Kings, it condition is very specific, you need right ethnics, own specific province, and faction leader need to be Grand Sufet.

    Carthage office also need social climbing trait to work, I'm not sure that it work correctly in mod or not. If character not have it then it likely to broken and need to fix.

    Senate fix on central offices' requirements will came later in next beta module.
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    Default Re: Ancillaries And Offices

    XC 4 Gamma Version
    No Senate
    Land Brifges
    Reduced AI
    Faster Movement

    Is this a bug? NONE of my governors have those offices. I dont mind vassal kings since i have no vassals

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    How many provinces you have? Do you characters have something like club's member, plutocrat, senators, etc?
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    Default Re: Ancillaries And Offices

    I own all of spain except Lusitania

    All of Africa west of cyrene

    Sicily Whole

    Sardinia Whole

    Corsica

    All of Italy Up till Arretium

    Some of my guys have member of an imprtant club trait

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    You need to have something higher than just being important club's member to earn office.

    On province number requirement, you seem already qualified most of offices now.
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    Default Re: Ancillaries And Offices

    Any conditions for getting that?

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    If you able to ascend social ladder, to gain office for you is easy.

    Condition for XC version's Social Ladder
    lvl1- Member of an Important Club
    1) Ethnic Punic (pre-reform only)
    2) Influence > 2
    3) Electability >= 3

    lvl2- Celebrity of Carthage
    1) Ethnic Punic (pre-reform only)
    2) Influence > 4
    3) Electability >= 6
    4) Must be Member of an Important Club

    lvl3 Plutocrat
    1) Ethnic Punic > 1 (pre-reform only)
    2) Management > 5
    3) Electability >= 9
    4) Must be Celebrity of Carthage

    lvl4- Senator
    1) Ethnic Punic > 2 (pre-reform only)
    2) Influence > 6
    3) Electability >= 12
    4) Must be Plutocrat

    lvl4.1- Member of the Committee of Thirty (expansion of senator)
    1) Ethnic Punic > 2 (pre-reform only)
    2) Management > 7
    3) Electability >= 15
    4) Must be Senator

    lvl4.2- Member of the Tribunal of Judges (expansion of senator)
    1) Ethnic Punic > 3 (pre-reform only)
    2) Influence > 8
    3) Electability >= 15
    4) Must be Senator

    Note:
    1) Electability is hidden attribute given or penalty by trait.
    2) As characters could ascend social ladder, they could fall as well.
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