Dagor Ennor (aka PCP) ~ M2TW & TATW Re-Imagined ~ 31 Factions + 32 Rebel Factions ~ MAXED Buildings/Units/Regions ~ Interact with ALL the indigenous peoples of Middle-Earth... and then terminate them with extreme prejudice.

**JaNcEn47** · October 26, 2014, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by alreadyded

I made many changes to the buildings file for the next update and still have to make the mercs recruited in buildings more rare.

The generic merc models could be swapped for local merc unit models, like a Middle Eastern type caravan guard model which can be used from many other mods like Broken Crescent (or even vanilla m2tw since they are just temp anyway). I have been meaning to go through some of these mods (some units in PCP do already come from Broken Crescent, though they are temporary models) but I haven't had the time.

I will have to finish up the next release, the battlefield terrain textures have brought me to a stop as I haven't really felt like doing them in the past three weeks or so, plus I was out of town for a long while.

That settles it, we'll look at it when it comes out, then rethink all this I suppose. I'm awaiting this release like fresh water in the middle of the desert!!!^^

**Talion** · October 27, 2014, 04:31 AM

Awesome mod! Keep it up!
Got a crashlog for you when entering battle, hope it helps:

10:22:35.715 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_screen_72.tga
10:22:35.715 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_screen_32.tga,3145772
10:22:35.715 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_screen_32.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.763 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.763 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga.dds
10:22:35.763 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.763 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Third_Age_3/mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga
10:22:35.763 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga.dds,,not found
10:22:35.764 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga.dds is missing
10:22:35.764 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga,262188
10:22:35.764 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_bar.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.764 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/descr_transition_screen.txt (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.764 [system.io] [trace] file open,,36FED0B0,41559
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/descr_transition_screen.txt (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga.dds
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Third_Age_3/mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga.dds,,not found
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga.dds is missing
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga,262188
10:22:35.765 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Third_Age_3/data/loading_screen/loading_logo.tga (from: D:\Games\Medieval II)
10:22:36.170 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

**Kellenpure** · October 27, 2014, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by JaNcEn47

That settles it, we'll look at it when it comes out, then rethink all this I suppose. I'm awaiting this release like fresh water in the middle of the desert!!!^^

HA! As am I.

**scwartzgeist** · October 28, 2014, 05:47 AM

Trying this out for the first time. First page got really heated. I was afraid that the mod might be dead, but that was quickly dispelled seeing that the last post was only yesterday. I hope that things are going to plan.

**Kellenpure** · October 28, 2014, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by scwartzgeist

Trying this out for the first time. First page got really heated. I was afraid that the mod might be dead, but that was quickly dispelled seeing that the last post was only yesterday. I hope that things are going to plan.

The rumors of it's death have been greatly exaggerated. The mod is quite active, but progress moves at the pace that the realities of daily life allow.

**JaNcEn47** · October 29, 2014, 03:37 AM

The thing is, except for crash reports, Alreadyded doesn't ask for help. So I feel compelled to ask: Alreadyded, do you want something done that may be in my power? I don't ask for Kellenpure, for I think both of you already talked about it.

**Talion** · October 29, 2014, 04:51 AM

Regarding crash reports, here are a few (just the last 20 lines as it has been said this would be enough), hope it helps...

Battle Crashes:
Battle Crash 1

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Battle Crash 2

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Battle Crash 3

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Battle Crash 4

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Battle Crash 5

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Siege Crash 1

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Siege Crash 2

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In some cases the battle crash occured before the battle map was loaded (right after hitting "fight battle manually")

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Or right after deployment phase when hitting start battle

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Also encountered some starting game and load game crashes

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Most crashes happened when fighting those nasty new creatures and or while deploying stakes, but that might be coincidence...

Hope this helps and keep it up
Cheers

**mr.playa** · October 29, 2014, 06:09 PM

hey guys
i just downloaded the third age mod and was wondering should i go with MOS
or use this mod instead ?

can u help explain the difference
thanks

**MIKE GOLF** · October 30, 2014, 03:53 PM

Why not try them both?

**Jestertester** · October 31, 2014, 07:44 AM

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**Antaris** · October 31, 2014, 07:48 AM

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**Kellenpure** · October 31, 2014, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by JaNcEn47

The thing is, except for crash reports, Alreadyded doesn't ask for help. So I feel compelled to ask: Alreadyded, do you want something done that may be in my power? I don't ask for Kellenpure, for I think both of you already talked about it.

AD is typically quite open to input, particularly with time consuming works such as unit cards, etc.

**Kellenpure** · November 02, 2014, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by JaNcEn47

The thing is, except for crash reports, Alreadyded doesn't ask for help. So I feel compelled to ask: Alreadyded, do you want something done that may be in my power? I don't ask for Kellenpure, for I think both of you already talked about it.

You could help me in the meantime. I have been messing around in the export_descr_unit and found six units listed (at bottom of the txt page) that are not used in the current game. I thought they would make good mercenaries (ignoring the unit names). I added them to the descr_mercenaries script to try them out: one works completely (ME Archer Militia), four work but the units appear silver in battles (Peasants, EE Peasant Archers, Axemen, Spearmen), and one gives error (Persian Spearmen). Actually, the Peasants unit has a skin for Beornings, but not other factions. I'm really new to this, and reading up on how to do skins I see a lot of room for error and it looks like someone else could probably do it in much less time. So if anyone would like to help me get these units functional as mercenaries, much appreciated.

**JaNcEn47** · November 02, 2014, 05:24 PM

I'll be happy to help with the buildings as soon as the next patch is out. For the mercenary units... Well... I don't know how to make unit models, but seeing how many mods and submods exist for MedievalII, I think it would be easier to search for new units in existing mods. Assuming the creators are okay (and Alreadyded too) the only thing left is for you to think about "what" and "where". Once you've thought this out, I'll help you to search througth units (vanilla/Broken Crescent/Stainless Steel as well as other Third age submods, again assuming everybody is okay with that)

**Kellenpure** · November 02, 2014, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by JaNcEn47

I'll be happy to help with the buildings as soon as the next patch is out. For the mercenary units... Well... I don't know how to make unit models, but seeing how many mods and submods exist for MedievalII, I think it would be easier to search for new units in existing mods. Assuming the creators are okay (and Alreadyded too) the only thing left is for you to think about "what" and "where". Once you've thought this out, I'll help you to search througth units (vanilla/Broken Crescent/Stainless Steel as well as other Third age submods, again assuming everybody is okay with that)

Copy that - it would be best to wait until after the next patch. But the suspense is killing me!

**alreadyded** · November 21, 2014, 08:39 PM

Gonna try and finish up the new battlefield terrain textures and unit textures for the new creature models this weekend. I am pretty sure those are the only things holding back the new release and they are mostly done already.

**manekemaan** · November 22, 2014, 07:04 AM

Great to hear looking forward to it!

**Kellenpure** · November 22, 2014, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by alreadyded

Gonna try and finish up the new battlefield terrain textures and unit textures for the new creature models this weekend. I am pretty sure those are the only things holding back the new release and they are mostly done already.

Outstanding! I'm ready for testing.

**ahmay** · November 25, 2014, 05:30 PM

When will the new patch come out? I cannot play the fourth age campaigns.

**JaNcEn47** · November 28, 2014, 07:16 PM

Waiting (very) eagerly! Take time if you need some, I'm not going anywhere!

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