[HISTORICAL ISSUE] - Historical films from balkan states

[slavic_crusader]

I dont think Vienna is going to be in the game.... I think Il_Duce said that.
It was a village by the begining of the game no way in this game it will be a power house city. But dont take my word on it

[il_duce_!]

Vienna is on the map.

[Wallachian]

I dont think Vienna is going to be in the game.... I think Il_Duce said that.
It was a village by the begining of the game no way in this game it will be a power house city. But dont take my word on it

Not exactly correct. While it wasn't a massive metropolis but it was still a fairly important city in the area at the start of the Tsardoms timeline.

Vienna had been the capital of Austria since the 1100s and was an important local trade hub. Walls were erected around the settlement in 1200 and the settlement received city rights in 1220. By the 14th century it was the center of Habsburg power, only shadowed by Prague. I think it should exist on the map, but not with a unique model.

Good documentary about the siege of Vienna, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Edit: Just saw duce's comment confirming it will be on the map

[\Vazul's Ghost/]

Will Prague be on the map?

[Wallachian]

Good question Looking at the radar map in one of duce's posts and comparing it with a map of europe, i think Prague might just be out of the boundaryWould be nice if it would be in though

[slavic_crusader]

My bad guys sorry

[il_duce_!]

Prague is out of the map.

[matija191]

this two are eye-candies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSLW0zyDVGo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ0Vx...eature=related

[Hrobatos]

what mod is that? its awesome!

[matija191]

what mod is that? its awesome!

i think Magyar mod but i am not certain....

P.S. did you noticed croatian cheqerboard on pavises? really nice detail

[Hrobatos]

yes I have, you say magyar? i thought the same, but those Turks...are those vanilla units?
I dont know myself, havent played vanilla much, not with Turks

[matija191]

yes I have, you say magyar? i thought the same, but those Turks...are those vanilla units?
I dont know myself, havent played vanilla much, not with Turks

I dont know. I will ask Magyar mod team

[The Noble Lord]

The OP doesn't have a period restriction, so I think films like Dacii can be included as well.

As for Bulgarian movies, here are some that I know of:
- Han Asparuh (aka "681 - Glory of the Khan" in its shortened American version) - a 1981 movie, made for the 1300 years jubilee and one of the most epic movies ever (ok, ok, after War and Peace and some other Soviet ones). A trilogy about the disintegration of the Old Great Bulgaria and the creation of the Danubian Bulgaria. A playlist with some cut-scenes from the original movie, playlist with parts of the shortened American version. Full movie, low quality: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
- Deniat na vladetelite (The day of the rulers) - a 1985 movie about Khan Krum's reign and his fights with the Byzantines. Parts 1 and 2.
- Konstantin Philosoph - a 1983 movie about the life of St. Constantine/Cyril, the creator of the Glagolithic alphabet, after whom our current Cyrillic alphabet is named
- Boris I. Posledniat ezichnik (Boris I. The last heathen) - a 1984 movie about the reign of Kanas Boris I and his conversion to Christianity. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13
- Zlatniat Vek (The Golden Age) - a 1984 serial movie about the first Golden Age of Bulgaria under Tsar Simeon I. Episodes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.
- Kaloyan - a 1962 movie about the reign of Tsar Kaloyan and his fights with the knights of the 4th Crusade. 1, 2, 3, 4.
- Svatbite na Ioan Asen (The weddings of Ioan Asen) - a 1975 (somewhat artistic) movie about the reign of Tsar Ioan Asen II, famous, among other things, with the many weddings he organized and used in his diplomacy. The main actor who played the tsar, Apostol Karamitev, died during the making of the movie, so in some scenes he's replaced by the actor who plays his brother.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
- Boyanskiat maistor (The master-painter of Boyana) - a 1980 movie about the master-painter at the re-construction of the Boyana church, famous with its proto-renaissance style. Parts 1 and 2.
- Ivailo - a 1963 movie about the peasant tsar Ivailo and his fights with Mongols, Romans and Bulgarian royalists. Parts 1 and 2.
- Vreme na nasilie (Time of violence) - a 1987 movie, based on the great book of Anton Donchev "Vreme Razdelno" (Time of partition), about the forceful Islamization of the Rhodopes region in the 17th century. Torrent with English subtitles edited by me. Online streaming on BG: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
- Zapiski po bulgarskite vustania (Notes on the Bulgarian uprisings) - a 1976 serial movie about the Bulgarian uprisings against the Ottomans, based on the historical memoirs of the revolutionary Zahari Stoyanov. Playlist with 44 videos.
- Ikonostasat (The iconostasis) - a 1968 movie, based on the book of Dimitar Talev "Zhelezniat svetilnik" (The iron lamp), about Macedonia in the beginning of the liberation movement (AFAIK, the movie's centred around a specific part of the book, concerning the iconostasis-maker). Parts 1 and 2.
- Pod igoto (Under the yoke) - a 1953 movie, based on the classical novel of Ivan Vazov, about the struggles of the Bulgarian people under the Ottoman rule and the consequent April Uprising in 1876. Parts 1 and 2.
- Geroite na Shipka (The heroes of Shipka) - a 1954 Soviet-Bulgarian production about the Russian-Turkish Liberation War from 1877-1878. Parts 1 and 2.
- Kapitan Petko Voivoda (Captain Petko Voivoda) - a 1981 serial movie about the Bulgarian revolutionary Petko Voivoda (12 episodes in numerous parts)
- Mera spored mera (Measure for measure) - a 1981 movie about the struggles of the Macedonian Bulgarians left under Turkish oppression and the consequent Ilinden-Preobrazhenie Uprising in 1903. Playlist with 29 parts.
- Tsar i general (Tsar and general) - a 1965 movie about the turbulent times during World War II. Parts 1 and 2.

Loosely historical:
- Hitar Petar (Clever Peter) - a 1960 movie based on the humorous tales about the clever folk hero. 1, 2, 3, 4


NOTE: All movies are on Bulgarian only. The only Bulgarian movies in the internet with foreign subs/dubs, as far as I know, are Vreme Razdelno (torrent link above), the shortened "681 - Glory of the khan" (with bad English dubs and in-built BG subs) and "Gentleman for a day".


Have fun watching!
Or, in general, you can check this guy's collections ("Балканско кино" means "Balkan movies", "БГ филми" means "Bulgarian movies") for some other ones.


And, please, people, don't embed videos - it creates a horrible lag on some older computers and nets. In the last two hours I've had at least a couple of micro-crashes, 3 browser crashes and a full system reboot, while browsing this page.


P.S. If we're talking also about non-feature films, here are some short CGI animations from the Operatsia Slava show: Asparukh, Tervel, Krum (from 08:15 till the end, and till 00:20 here), Simeon (from 01:25 till 03:35), Kaloyan (from 02:40 till 05:20), Ioan Asen II (from 09:10 till the end, and till 01:35 here).

That is a nice list Nike, but why didn't you include that movie that is called 'Kozijat Rog' or The Goat Horn??

[NikeBG]

That is a nice list Nike, but why didn't you include that movie that is called 'Kozijat Rog' or The Goat Horn??

Hmm, good call, I had forgotten about that. Will update the (incomplete) list. Thanks!

[brennas]

And let's face it - most of the game's customers are from the West (America, Western Europe) and most of them prefer to play with the same old France, England, HRE and wherever they're respectively from. On the other hand, how many people would like to play with Serbia or Bulgaria?

Please Nike, don't generalise about those facts about Western Europe... I am a Spaniard, and we also face the same problem with our history. The saddest think is that even Spaniards are ignorants of their own, and we just know an etnocentrist "Western World" history.
Personally, I would prefer to play with Serbia or Bulgaria in TW if they were available...rather than with France or England (the classical ones...). So I am checking this forum to see this fantastic mod appear

And, again, I'd guess that probably only 1% of the Western population know that there was even a war on the Balkans at that time,

Well, in that case I supose I have to feel proud of be part of that 1% As I said before, please don't generalise about us

By the way, the movies you posted are just awesome.....nothing to do the European cinema realism with the absurd yankee comercialism in film industry.

[NikeBG]

You're an exception, brennas. From what I've seen, I think I'm right to say that *most* (which doesn't mean all) Westerners have no clue about Eastern European history. While I may be no expert on Western European history, though at least I do have sufficient clues about it (or "most of us know about Western history a bit more than most Westerners know about Eastern history, which is largely thanks to the Western multimedias being a sort of a hegemon here today").
And you're still better than us - many people have heard of El Cid, especially because of the Hollywood movie and the Spanish campaign in AoEII The Conquistadors (and, yeah, who hasn't heard about Spain in the age of the Great Discoveries and the American colonization).

[brennas]

many people have heard of El Cid, especially because of the Hollywood movie and the Spanish campaign in AoEII The Conquistadors (and, yeah, who hasn't heard about Spain in the age of the Great Discoveries and the American colonization).

And I'm proud of being an exception in this subject (most Spaniards even doesn't know where is Serbia)....I recognise Westerners can't see beyond their ethnic limits, specially yankees (how many films have been done about the D-Day????). And well, Spanish history is not just Conquistadores and a rubbish american movie about Charlton Heston imitating El Cid...but that's the way it goes, we the "secondary" nations have to live under the Western ethnocentrism, or at least that's the way I see it.

[brennas]

Btw, I can't believe nobody posted the film Boj na Kosovu (1989), bassed on the battle of Kosovo between the Serbian princes and Ottoman Empire. Here is in youtube (I found a torrent version with English subtitles, but I can not find it now).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThJN6hlCS-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4F_q...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt12B...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt12B...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu2Lh...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Uup...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpsHx...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKi-J...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxkCw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWmne...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWi0-...eature=related

Here is another Serbian film, St. George shoots the Dragon, settled between the Second Balcanic War and the First World War. I haven't seen it, but it seems good. Any oppinion before watching it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwd6kwmN3fQ

This is another great dramatised documentary about the Siege of Viena, not the one in time of Charles V (the Spaniards won it, a fact that almost Westerners don't know...), but the one in 1683:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzjm_6OG7g0[/YOUTUBE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHB4...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JcLQ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jvuw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq0OR...eature=related


And finally, a Russian film based in the context of the war of liberation of Bulgaria (just watched the trailer, I don't have an oppinion about it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGu-_7PnBgA

[slavic_crusader]

We know about Boj na Kosovo. But there is communistic influence of the time that may have affect its reliability

[brennas]

We know about Boj na Kosovo. But there is communistic influence of the time that may have affect its reliability

I am sorry if I offended someone with that, I really didn't knew that it was that politically influenced...